NCAA (College Football)

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!!

selain thread NFL, teman juga nak sembang2 ttg NCAA Football. siri ni tak kurang juga follower di US tu. dah mcm NFL Pro ball juga. masa teman di Green Bay (1983-1987) dulu, U teman takde football team tapi ada soccer team. tak laa tinggi mana sgt ranking dema. di situ teman duk ikut GB Packers tapi dema duk mangkor masa tu.

bila teman pindah ke Virginia Tech, dema ada football tapi asyik mangkor kena gomoi dgn Big-10 dll conference. kalau ada home game teman pegi laa tengok sbb dpt ticket free. seorang kawan nat salleh teman tu main dlm team tu jadi selalu buleh dpt seat yg bagus2. bila teman tamat belajor dan balik malaysia tiba2 dema meletup2 top-10 team. menag against big conferences. Micheal Vick antara best college QB dan drafted walaupun belum tamat belajor... lumayan gaji dia walau tak grad...

OK laaa, teman teman Virginia Tech laaa... Go Hokies... glok glok glok glok!!!

Current AP Top 25 Ranking:

  1.Ohio State (59)
  2. Auburn (2)
  3. USC (2)
  4. West Virginia (2)
  5. Florida
  6. Michigan
  7. Texas
  8. Louisville
  9. Georgia
  10. LSU
  11. Virginia Tech
  12. Notre Dame
  13. Oregon
  14. Iowa
  15. Tennessee
  16. TCU
  17. Oklahoma
  18. Florida State
  19. Clemson
  20. Boston College
  21. California
  22. Arizona State
  23. Nebraska
  24. Penn State
  25. Boise State


kome bagaimana???

[ Last edited by  dexa at 29-3-2008 10:08 PM ]

chuckiey

me mmg layan NCAA lebih dr NFL.. tapi team football u aku ni tak le hebat mane.. tak tersenarai pun dlm top 25 tu.. sbb kalah ngan bears. player yg paling glamer skali dlm team football aku dulu was our RB,  Laurence Marooney.. first draft NFL dah kene sambar.. last season, aku gi stadium utk every home game.. this season, aku dah beli football season ticket. first home game kurang best sbb opponent tak best.. & aku predict, team aku akan kalah 3 out of 6 home games sbb sbb season lepas dorg kalah ngan team2 ni.. haihh.. lemah semangat aku nak sokong..

Ax

huhhu
pe beza ncaa ni ngn nfl
huhuhuhu

spitfire007

Originally posted by Ax at 19-9-2006 11:58 PM
huhhu
pe beza ncaa ni ngn nfl
huhuhuhu

attee, wehh!!!

NCAA ni college punya level banding dgn NFL pro level tapi dia punya sengat ngalahkan pro lagi. malah ada org bet juta2 juga. dia punya recruiting drive nak cari yg terbaik dari high school mmg dahsyat sampai ada yg offer mcm2 spt biasiswa dll pd budok sekolah tu utk masuk U dema dan main utk dema. sstgh player ni dungu juga tapi football punya pasal, dema tamat kolej dgn ijazah tapi belajor sepatah haram pun tak tahu.

Ax

kire khas utk student2 bru nak naek la ni
gilos ar
mude2 bdn tough dah nnti ..

oobi

Betul tu. Sebenarnya, NCAA lagi hebat dari NFL. Sebabnye, NFL tak de kat semua tempat, especially small market area (untuk TV ler ni). Tapi, NCAA ada kat merata-rata. Contohnya, kat Nebraska ngan Alabama. Supporter NCAA teams pun lebih loyal compare to NFL. Nanti, bila BCS poll dah start, lagilah sengit. Masa bowl game, jangan ceritalah. Pendapatan setiap university for participation ajer, lumayan habis. Tu belum menang lagi tu, especially kalau bowl game tu sekalii dengan national championship. Stadium dia orang pun lebih besar dari NFL. Michigan and Notre Dame, capacity lebih 100,000. Notre Dame, tak join mana-mana conference sebab they earn more money by being independent. TV rights dengan NBC ajer... lebih USD4 juta. Banyak duit tu. Tak masuk yang lain-lain... dari boosters, alumni, commercials, radio rights, etc.

Untuk season ni, nampak gaya Ohio States, Southern Cal, Auburn, Michigan ngan Louisville, kuat habis. Yang lain tu, nampak macam one step below (top 15 dalam poll ler). Tapi, masih early in the season. Bil dah main at least 5-6 games, barulah nampak sape yang betul-betul akan contend for national championship.

Bila season dah habis, players semua akan prepare on NFL draft. Masing-masing ada gred sendiri. First round pick and some of early second round, boleh jadi instant millionaire. Top 10 pick, set for life. This year top pick, Mario Williams, DE for Houston Texans, contract dia lebih USD50 juta. Guarantee money, lebih USD20 juta. Tu tak masuk side incomes  such as commercial appearance, etc.

Tapi, still tak boleh lawan NBA. NBA, LeBron James, NBA top pick a fews ago, belum step on the court lagi, dah dapat contract USD100 juta dari Nike. Masa tu, dia baru 17-18 tahun. Tu tak masuk side incomes and his new contract (worth about USD70 millions for 3-4 years).

By the way, sekarang tak boleh kata football players ni  macam tu, Dah ramai jadi lawyers, doctors, politicians, etc. For example, 49ers current QB, Alex Smith, dia ada master in Finance. Finished his bachelor in 2 years and Master in 2 years. Steve Young, 49ers ex-QB, law graduate student. Tapi, masih ramai juga yang tak habis college, but happens everywhere in this world. They are human beings too.

Last week, NCAA Footbal games were very good. Banyak games yang exciting, especially when top 25 teams played against each other. This coming week, belum check schedule lagi. But, oobi mesti tengok USC lawan Arizona punye, main kat desert.




[ Last edited by  oobi at 16-10-2006 04:07 AM ]

oobi

Originally posted by chuckiey at 19-9-2006 11:43 PM
me mmg layan NCAA lebih dr NFL.. tapi team football u aku ni tak le hebat mane.. tak tersenarai pun dlm top 25 tu.. sbb kalah ngan bears. player yg paling glamer skali dlm team football aku dulu wa ...

Golden Gophers, ye? Perit ler macam tu. Kena face Wolverines, Nittany Lions, Hawkeys and Buckeyes. Semua tu top 25 tu. Laurance Maroney ni, Patriots pick dia... 21st overall in this year draft. Sharing the load with Corey Dillon (ex-Huskies).




[ Last edited by  oobi at 16-10-2006 06:03 AM ]

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!

NCAA ni banyak conferences dia sampai naik berpinor-pinor kepala teman nak ingat yg mana satu sampai tak terolap otak teman. ada conference yg cokia juga dan ada juga yg tak masuk conference (independent), jadi dia boleh lawan mana2 school.

NCAA Footbal juga peronah jadi isu bbrp scandal nak dapatkan pemain, berebut2 antara kolej yg nakkan dema dari high school ni. sampai ada yg dapat 'payola' (rasuah) dari agen2 atau tukang2 rekruit ni atau talent scouts.

ada juga games yg libatkan musuh tradisional spt Army-Navy game dll. ttg bowl games pulok, dah ada berpuluh2 dan kalau time bowls ni kalau di US sampai tak cukup channel TV nak tengok semua. Bowl paling top ada Rose Bowl, diadakan awal januari bersama Parade of the Roses. mmg glamor dema ni

oobi

Originally posted by spitfire007 at 20-9-2006 10:12 AM
NCAA ni banyak conferences dia sampai naik berpinor-pinor kepala teman nak ingat yg mana satu sampai tak terolap otak teman. ada conference yg cokia juga dan ada juga yg tak masuk conference (independent), jadi dia boleh lawan mana2 school. ...

Memang, NCAA memang banyak conferences. Dahlah banyak conferences, kena kali dengan 4 division pulak tu - D1, D1-AA, D2 and D3. Campur lagi dengan NAIA, junior colleges, lagilah banyak. Tapi, yang famous division 1. Dalam division one pun, tak semua conferece famous. Yang betul-betul famous and bila teams dalam conferences tu main orang mesti tengok ialah Big-10, Pac-10, Big-12, SEC, ACC dengan Big East. Independent, Notre Dame ajer yang orang betul-betul tengok. As for schedule, setiap school boleh set sendiri, except for conference games.

Originally posted by spitfire007 at 20-9-2006 10:12 AM
NCAA Footbal juga peronah jadi isu bbrp scandal nak dapatkan pemain, berebut2 antara kolej yg nakkan dema dari high school ni. sampai ada yg dapat 'payola' (rasuah) dari agen2 atau tukang2 rekruit ni atau talent scouts. ...

Scandals ni, sekarang pun masih ada. Cuma antara heboh dengan tidak ajer. Dah masuk kolej pun masih ada scandals. Tu yang ada team yang bengang, especially kalau dia orang menang bowl games or national championship - kene strip ler gelaran tu. Tapi, salah team juga sebab benarkan boosters rapat sangat dengan players. Tapi, kalau tak, tak de sponsor pulak. So, boosters ni kena ada ethic jugalah. Kalau player tu betul-betul bagus, at the end of the year, the best college footballl player akan dianugerahkan Heisman Trophy. Setakat ni, cuma sorang ajer pernah menang dua kali - Archie Griffins. Susah nak menang Heisman ni lebih dari sekali. So, bila menang dua kali tu, quite an accomplishment.

Originally posted by spitfire007 at 20-9-2006 10:12 AM
ada juga games yg libatkan musuh tradisional spt Army-Navy game dll. ttg bowl games pulok, dah ada berpuluh2 dan kalau time bowls ni kalau di US sampai tak cukup channel TV nak tengok semua. Bowl paling top ada Rose Bowl, diadakan awal januari bersama Parade of the Roses. mmg glamor dema ni  ...

Part musuh tradisi ni, memang banyak. Sometimes tu, mereka create their own trophy just for this particular game. Contohnya, between Stanford and Cal, sape menang, mereka dapat kapak. Antara game yang macam ni yang famous, selain Army-Navy, ialah Irish-Trojan, Crimson Tide-Tiger, Seminoles-Gators, Gators-Canes, Wolverines-Nittany Lions and Irish-Wolverines. Masa game macam ni, stadium memang tak muat. Kalau capacity 108,000, yang nak tengok sampai 120,000. Sampai ada yang bergayut kat tiang-tiang, etc... Sanggup! Betul tu, Rose Bowl memang paling famous. Since dia orang start BCS, ada tiga lagi bowl game yang besar, selain daripada Rose Bowl. Those are Fiesta Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl. Payout, memang besar habis. Sebab tu every team mati-mati try nak masuk. Tahun lepas, tak silap, each team dapat at least USD 5 juta for participating ajer. Rose Bowl bayar paling mahal... Dulu, sebelum join BCS, Rose Bowl (paling lambat join BCS) ni bowl game untuk Pac- 10 and Big-10 champions ajer. Lepas join BCS, top 2 teams in BCS poll akan main at one of the four bowls (rotate ikut giliran) for the right to win national championship. National championship ni pulak, ada dua... satu yang BCS kasi, satu lagi yang AP kasi (Associated Press) - dua poll yang berlainan. So, kadang-kadang billa poll tak sama, tu yang jadi split national champions (macam tahun 2004 - USC menang AP, LSU menang BCS). Bila jadi macam tu, kecohlah... ada ajer masalah. Tapi, selagi tak de playoff, memang susah. But, they don't want playoff yet sebab so far the systems, walau pun ada kekurangannya, still attracted a lot of fans.




[ Last edited by  oobi at 16-10-2006 06:05 AM ]

oobi

Originally posted by spitfire007 at 20-9-2006 12:04 AM
sstgh player ni dungu juga tapi football punya pasal, dema tamat kolej dgn ijazah tapi belajor sepatah haram pun tak tahu ...

Sebenarnya, dia orang tak boleh ambik sebarangan players juga. Kalau players tu bagus macamana sekali pun, mereka kena lepas certain academic standard juga. So, pihak Uni is responsible... kena make semua players lepas standard yang ditetapkan. NCAA ada minimum academic standard dan pihak Uni boleh naikkan lagi the standard, tapi tak boleh turunkan. Samada players tu betul-betul academically eligiible atau cheating, tu terpulanglah. Kalau NCAA finds out that they are actually cheating academically sebab nak main football, players boleh kena gantung, Uni boleh kena denda seperti kena strip amount of scholarship dia orang boleh tawarkan for the next three years ke, tak boleh main untuk bowl games for three years, etc. Penalti ni memang stiff. Sebab tulah setiap team kena make sure all players academically eligible sebelum boleh main. Current USC starting tailback, Chauncey Washington, dia kena strip dia punye scholarship dan paid his way during his sophomore year and kena earn the necessary grades sebelum boleh main balik. So, this year, dia dapat balik scholarship dia and play for USC. Kalau USC tak force dia buat tu semua and dia main untuk USC last year, USC tak boleh main kat Rose Bowl and this year sure tak boleh offer a lot of scholarships. Tapi, masih ada team yang breaks the rules, sebab nak menang sangat.




[ Last edited by  oobi at 16-10-2006 06:06 AM ]

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!!

hari ni VaTech(3-0; ranked 11th)  lawan unranked Cincinnati. dema kata ini satu mismatch dan game lauk, tapi you'll never know. Last season unbeaten VT (6-0) main unfancied Virginia kena pukul mangkor, lepas tu kalah 2 game in a row.

spitfire007

atteee, wehh!!!

VT (4-0 now) beat Cincinnati tapi tak naik ranking, masih #11th.

Ax

adekah yg tgh live kt espn skrg tu ar ...?

pahtu nnti ade aussie football league lak ehh kt astro
giles ar manyak ragbi ..

chuckiey

as i predicted, u aku kalah lagi.. kali ni ngan Mich..dah la home game.. next home game pun for sure kene tibai lagi.. ni aku rase nak tukar university.. gi osu ke, penstate ke, texas ke..

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!!

kali ni VaTech (#11) mangkor dgn GaTech (#24).... ape ke he nye wehh??? oberkonpiden ke gamaknya???

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!!!

Va Tech dah turun ranking ke 18 skrg ni lantaran kalah dgn GaTech. abihleee peluang nak masuk national championship mcm bbrp tahun lepas. minggu ni dema dapat 'bye', takde game...

Ax

Originally posted by chuckiey at 1-10-2006 04:04 PM
as i predicted, u aku kalah lagi.. kali ni ngan Mich..dah la home game.. next home game pun for sure kene tibai lagi.. ni aku rase nak tukar university.. gi osu ke, penstate ke, texas ke..

bes tul U ko ade msk
huhuhuhuhu

spitfire007

attee, wehh!!!

pagi tadi Va Tech (#22) termangkor habis dgn unraked Boston College 3-22... alahai alamat terkeluor leee dari top-25 ranking. apa dah jadi 2 kali berturut2 mangkor ni????

chuckiey

football team from my u dah kalah 4 game berturut2 utk season ni.. purdue, mich, penstate & wisconsin..  they played  much better in last season..  tak berbaloi aku beli tiket season ni

spitfire007

Originally posted by chuckiey at 16-10-2006 01:50 AM
football team from my u dah kalah 4 game berturut2 utk season ni.. purdue, mich, penstate & wisconsin..  they played  much better in last season..  tak berbaloi aku beli tiket season ni

attee, wehh!!!

kome kena beli tiket ke nak tengok games??? masa teman dulu tunjuk aje kad pelajar dapat tiket free... tapi itu dulu, skrg ni dah selalu dlm national ranking, tak tahu leee pulok teman...

udoh teman katakan dah... dah cicior dari top-25 ranking.... Week 8

1. Ohio State
  2. Michigan
  3. USC
4. West Virginia
  5. Texas
  6. Louisville
  7. Tennessee
  8. Auburn
  9. Florida
  10. Notre Dame
  11. California
  12. Clemson
  13. Georgia Tech
  14. LSU
  15. Arkansas
  16. Oregon
  17. Nebraska
  18. Boise State
  19. Rutgers
  20. Oklahoma
  21. Wisconsin
  22. Boston College
  23. Texas A&M
  24. Missouri
  25. Wake Forest

Mangkor wehh!!

[ Last edited by  spitfire007 at 16-10-2006 08:25 AM ]