ACCOUNTANT -

shashas

OK, thanks for your help...but then let's say if we have a few employment experience cemana eh...eg 1 yr kat an audit firm, then another 2 years at other audit firm. Boleh ke the ACCA member sign for the experience I gained at my old firm?

Thanks for ur help!

putri22

different dari segi kerja laa..masa aku keje private lain, now keje gov lagi laa totally lain..mula2 cam confius jap..tapi bg aku private lagi mencabar ler..

decent77

apa beza finance dgn account?job description?

md_aie

Originally posted by shashas at 21-9-2008 10:26 PM
OK, thanks for your help...but then let's say if we have a few employment experience cemana eh...eg 1 yr kat an audit firm, then another 2 years at other audit firm. Boleh ke the ACCA member sign ...

boleh..as long as u ada 6 months experience in any one particular firm..kalo u keje 6 months each kat 6 firm pun bole..:victory:

batunilam4a

Originally posted by gam_gajah at 14-8-2008 12:28 PM



huhuhu... stationery ada opening balance???? muahhahaha sakit jantung aku baca..... kejer menghapal terer la kot.....

btw, aku dulu start kejer gaji 900 je, a/c assistant.....

stationery tu balance sheet items ke ..kalo supplier stationery tuh boleh ler letak as other creditor ni kes parah nie

batunilam4a

Originally posted by ~stabilo~ at 11-8-2008 04:31 PM
Tapi memang pun aku rase exam oriented zaman sekarang ni..cam aku ni walaupun akauntan tapi sejak keja specialized sangat kat giant company nak intepret balance sheet pun tak faham. Last-last aku ...

kalo nak faham akaun elok pegi audit firm kecik dulu...mcm aku pon mule audit firm kecik....started pon RM900 jer...tapi u'll learn a lot...die tak kesah sbb kdg2 firm kecik ni ade buat akaun gak utk clients so u'll have balance of both...buat akaun where it needs you skill to classsified items and in audit you have to check from closing balance and find any weird things occured......

Tapi aku end up keje kat company gak...x leh duk audit firm lame2 get bored and dry...

mama_damia

Aku lak start ngan income auditor. then jd external aud. masa ni bengong gak sbb dah lama x buat full set. Then masuk badan bkanun jadi internal auditor. mmg aku x minat sbb aku lebih suka buat akaun walupun dah tak ingat. So skrang masuk gomen jd akauntan ok ler. walaupun dah x ingat sbb akaun kerajaan bukan cam yang kita keja & belajar dulu. mmg lain. so belajar semula jer la

batunilam4a

Originally posted by mama_damia at 29-9-2008 10:57 AM
Aku lak start ngan income auditor. then jd external aud. masa ni bengong gak sbb dah lama x buat full set. Then masuk badan bkanun jadi internal auditor. mmg aku x minat sbb aku lebih suka buat a ...

aku pon akan masuk badan berkanun jadi internal auditor...ok lah tuh...aku rase nak lari sikit dari buat akaun 24/7..rase mcm jemu....nak tuka angin sikit....nak rase be in commercial and corporate...susah x jadi internal auditor as compared to external?...aku external skrg...mungkin bulan 11 ni akan tuka ke internal...somewhere kat GLC gak lah...

batunilam4a

Originally posted by mama_damia at 29-9-2008 10:57 AM
skrang masuk gomen jd akauntan ok ler. walaupun dah x ingat sbb akaun kerajaan bukan cam yang kita keja & belajar dulu. mmg lain. so belajar semula jer la...

akaun government laen sikit kan...dulu aku ade amek subject public sector accounting...die bkn profit organization tapi more on service rendered and charitable actitivites kan...

ayeep

Ni nak minta tolong/pendapat Accountant2 yg bijak pandai ni.

My daughter skrg ni tgh buat CAT - final sem. Insha Allah nxt yr continue with ACCA. Dia plan on final sem of ACCA, dia nak g sambung kat UK and keje jap, cari experience sbb katanya ramai gak senior-senior dia yg buat cam ni. ok ke?

MARA or JPA ada ke bagi loan/scholarship untuk buat ACCA di UK. kat Website MARA tak tulis .

terima kasih daun keladi, nanti saya tanya lagi....

batunilam4a

Originally posted by ayeep at 7-10-2008 11:40 AM
Ni nak minta tolong/pendapat Accountant2 yg bijak pandai ni.

My daughter skrg ni tgh buat CAT - final sem. Insha Allah nxt yr continue with ACCA. Dia plan on final sem of ACCA, dia nak g sambu ...

Kalau nak diikutkan....zaman dulu2 mcm end of 70's throughout the 80's sampailah ke early 90's mmg final year kat UK....

The best study ACCA mmg kat sane lah...di sane yg set soalan....u'll get new issue..tak mcm kat sini....issue pon berdasarkan kat sane nye issue...one of my friend buat final year kat sana utk ACCA dpt gold medal....so kalo ade option buat final year sane lagi bagus..cume takut culture shock...sampai kat sane jadi lost..tapi kalo ur daughter blh addapt cepat i think she'll success...gud luck anyway...

ayeep

Insha Allah.... I'm confident she can do it. So far her CAT result ok...

kalau dia ke UK, ade can le Mama dia g visit kan.....

Gemukkkkkkk

jangan lupa update cpe hours.

izati_abc

Originally posted by dedaun30 at 13-8-2008 06:55 PM

nko biar betul dia tanya o/b stationery???
aku ingat jawapan psl bank recon yg plg bangang
rupanya ada lg jawapan maha bangang ek....

aku mcm nk nangis dgr soklan maha bangang tu...x mampu aku nk jwp......heheheh......sudahnya aku malas nk layan bdk tu.....sume bende pon nk tanye org...kalo tanye yg logik xpela jgk....kot tanye O/B stationery mmg aku surrender.....

aku lps 4 thn lbh keje audit pon...bila masuk keje as account exec...sume details aku nk buat...mcm aku auditor plk... ssh aku nk adjust...bende2 kecik mcm depreciation n journal adjustments sibuk je aku nk buat...ptt bg auditor je la buat keje tu....hehehe....skrg ni aku dh masuk bdn berkanun...as penolong akauntan la plk...turun pangkat sket....heheh...mmg nature keje lain la...public sector ngn private sector mmg beza.....even kalo ade MIA pon x applicable sgt bila dh masuk gomen ni...bila la aku nk naik jd akauntan ni...heheh.......

decent77

buat acca kat UK, paper tax and law pastikan your daughter buat di malaysia. Yg lain takpe lah buat di UK.

paper2 di uk, selalunya soalan more towards case study, so, if dia ada experience kerja di uk, much better. Tak semua university di UK ada tawarkan ACCA. Biasanya college2 mcm dublin business school, FTC, BPP, ada tawarkan package.

Tapi sebab ACCA ni dikhaskan untuk org yg bekerja, di FTC and BPP kelasnya cuma 5 kali untuk 1 paper. satu hari (dr pagi sampai ptg). Kalau buat full time pun sama. dia akan matchmaking kan dgn free time kita. di uk ada banyak part time job untuk accounts ni. kdg ada kerja hanya isnin dan rabu, the rest boleh pilih study dgn FTC atau BPP.

Untuk Dublin business school, i dah pergi tengok, bangunannya serupa mcm kelas tuition budak2 secondary school. but who cares about the building right? di Dublin banyak foreigner dr local. maybe kelas full time dia better.

Di London u can choose mcm2 college yg tawarkan ACCA, agak murah banding tempat lain, sbb competition.

Di university, biasanya untuk peringkat bawah mcm AAT dan Part 1 dan separuh Part 2 adalah ditawarkan, tapi, peringkat tinggi Part 3, jrg ada.

Untuk visa, hanya full time course sahaja di tawarkan visa, if ambil ACCA, kena at least ambil 3 atau 4 paper untuk satu seating. kalau part time, uk tak tawarkan visa.

untuk kerajaan tanggung, hanya kursus2 full time sahaja. either loan or scholar, i cannot say, coz last time they dont sponsor, nowadays, i heard they do.

decent77

untuk tuition fees, kalau part time, satu paper boleh capai 800 pound. kena tengok sekarng berapa, sebab setiap tahun dia naik.

kalau full time, dia akan kira mcm belajar di University. satu tahun pembayaran dalam 7k to 8k, if tak fail. Normally org fail, sebab cost living yg tinggi, so dia akan buat kerja extra.

shashas

I flew to the UK to further my ACCA tahun 2004-2006. Time tu MARA bagi scholarship la, part loan cuz kena bayar balik dalam 10% aje. JPA pun time tu bagi loan kot, means balik Msia kena keja dgn diorang la.

One year after that MARA tutup program tu. Actually nama program tu Skim Pelajar Cemerlang (SPC). Then after that dia bukak balik the offer. So you have to check from time to time with MARA. Just quote the SPC, they will know.

Personally I think study ACCA in the UK is better la, since the lecturers are "nearer" to the examiners yang set the exam questions. So the lecturers really understand what the examiners want.

And I highly recommend FTC (skrang ni nama dah tukar jadi Kaplan Financial) sebab lecturers2 dia memang gempak giler la...very dedicated, highly experienced and knowledgeable...BPP pun OK jugak but the lecturers OK2 aje la but I think the fees slightly expensive than FTC kut. Dulu la, la ni x tau la pulak. There are other colleges as well which are way cheaper but the lecturers pun not bad lah but then actually semuanya ni bergantung kepada usaha sendiri jugak. Tak guna la lecturers bagus2 tapi sendiri malas nak belajar kan. Universities jarang offer ACCA courses, cuma colleges yg I mentioned kat atas je yg byk provide ACCA courses.

PAsal work part-time tu, kalau waitressing ke ape senang la kot nak dapat kerja. Tapi tu pun tak la berapa senang sangat. Kalau nak buat part-time accounts or other back office jobs macam susah je?? Unless you are really lucky la..cuz dulu pn ada try2 mintak tapi susah nak dapat. My friends pun susah nak dapat kerja even part time tapi ada jugak segelintir yg dpt. Mungkin nasib la kut kan.

Full time kerja pun susah jugak kalau fresh graduate. Employers prefer if you have UK degree from recognisable UK universities. Colleges tak diiktiraf sangat la, even if you ada ACCA. Sebab ACCA ni very general, unless you study ICAEW or ACA ke (yang more conditioned to UK nye accounting rules and GAAP). Meaning kalo kat MSia ni macam MICPA la. So tu yang salah satu sebab I balik MSia and keja kat MSia ni. My friends pon sama. Sebab susah jugak nak dapat kerja. Unless you kerja kat very2 small firm. Tapi tu pun mcm nasib jer. Sebab ada jugak my friends yg dpt keja kat firm2 kecik2. Insya Allah pasni nak try mintak kat UK balik, sebab dah ada experience kan...

As a conclusion, I memang galakkan la ur daughter study kat UK. Byk benda boleh belajar, opens up your mind. Belajar berdikari, etc.

ayeep

thanks decent & shashas, very valuable info

thanks again

shidaaziz

tatau nak cari thread mana lagi yang sesuai. nampak macam thread ini ok je untuk pertanyaan.

my educational background dalam multimedia. keje skang cover HR, payrol & Accounts. next week me ada interview untuk accounts & finance jugak. requirement dia degree accounting/finance & member MIA. me apply dulu pun sebab requirement dia general costing, full set, treasury & MYOB yang mana memang part of my job scope le. cumanya me tak de paper je.

so nak mintak bantuan dari yang pakar & berpengalaman, apa soalan2 yang akan ditanya biasany untuk post begini, selain daripada general knowledge, working experience sume.

izati_abc

shida...slalunya awal2 iview tu mesti panel tgk study background kita dulu then based on that dia akan tanye soklan....aku yakin  mesti mula2 dia akan tanye nape shida study in mulmedia tp apply utk post accounts.....x pon dia x tanye tu..sbb dh tgk shida ade experience...kalo x nape in the first place dia nk panggil iview kan...

mcm aku pegi iview gomen utk post accountant....besides exp keje, diaorang tanye nape aku nk keje situ....lps tu ade one panel tanya soalan pasal accounting concept..pastu soalan2 lain pasal organization tu, ade jgk aku kene soalan kritikal yg memerlukan aku mengeluarkan pendapat la...tp yg tu general aje....

aku rasa depends pd panel jgk la shida....whether dia nk stress bhgn mana....ade yg jenis fact aje manjang..kalo kene panel yg santai je x kisahla....blh ajak sembang aje....