INCEPTION [LEONARDO DICAPRIO, ELLEN PAGE]

tdpp2006

kaka freddie pun pening camni

buiscasey

thanx mizie sbb sudi baca topik yg aku paste tu.

nk tmbh sket kepeningan yg sedia ada.
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sayangidaku Post at 19-7-2010 22:52

budak tu ada signifikannyer lah ida... dia kan involve dengan projek cobol... aku rasa mati kot kena bunuh dengan org kobol.. baca komik ni... (link kat bawah) prelude inception.. ada citer pasal projek cobol and kenapa dia nak masuk mind saito at first...

http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/thecoboljob/

buiscasey

by the way, aku nak tanya lagi... masa dream kat tempat snow2 tu, ada sesaper boleh kompom kat aku, fisher mati ke tak? kalau dia x mati, ada sesaper nampak tak, masa eams pasang machine drug tu kat cobb and ariadne, dia ada pasang kat fisher sekali tak? yg aku nampak dia pasang machine defib je (machine nak kick fisher), tapi aku tak nampak machine drug utk dream...

kalau fisher x mati, and eams ada pasang machine, everything make sennse la...

maksudnya, yg kat bgnn runtuh2 tu, tu adalah mimpi level 4. mimpi cobb...
and yg tempat saito tua tu, tu adalah limbo... aku rasalah....

cmf_GAIA

kekeke...nak baca smua komen terkumpul jadi pening gak...

Buis = aku rasa limbo memang share la...semua org sesat ada kat situ....Tapi yg fisher tu memang mati dlm mimpi layer 3, so dia masuk ke Limbo....then pasal nak kembalikan dia keluar dari limbo, Cobb n Adrianne masuk cari dia dalam mimpi Cobb(limbo) tuh....rasanya kat situ dia memang tak perlu dipasang apa2 sebb dah mati otomatik masuk dalam limbo kot? Tapi aku terfikir pulak kenapa Fischer Jr tu kena tembak? Yg menembak tu bukan ke Projection dia sendiri? n Projection dia sepatutnya hanya menembak tuan punya mimpi saja kan? yg mana mimpi layer 3 tu dipunya oleh Eams

kalau engineer 1st tu dah dedah rahsia semua pasal mimpi si Cobb tu, agaknya pasal tu kot Saito tahu ke sana? eerrr...ntah

kekure

kekeke...nak baca smua komen terkumpul jadi pening gak...

Buis = aku rasa limbo memang share la.. ...
cmf_GAIA Post at 20-7-2010 00:20

Aku tatau la sama ada aku jeh yang pikir camni
Kenapa filem ni start mid-scene?
Adakah ini salah satu point Nolan untuk bagi petunjuk yang cerita ni sebenarnya hanyalah mimpi Cobb?
You never know how a dream begins

bzzts

tekejut gak baca komen korang. bg aku, ini hanya hiburan, dan yes, amat menghiburkan.

aku suka dgn konsep dia macam matrix + 13th floor punya movie.
pasal apa2 saje jalan cerita, trima aje la. kita hanya penonton. tukang cerita dah dpt untung...

cmf_GAIA

ia lebih menghiburkan bila berteori dan berbincang segala kemungkinan....nikmat dan kepuasan hiburan itu berganda...belum cuba belum tahu ya

sayangidaku

Buis = aku rasa limbo memang share la...semua org sesat ada kat situ....Tapi yg fisher tu memang mati dlm mimpi layer 3, so dia masuk ke Limbo....then pasal nak kembalikan dia keluar dari limbo, Cobb n Adrianne masuk cari dia dalam mimpi Cobb(limbo) tuh....rasanya kat situ dia memang tak perlu dipasang apa2 sebb dah mati otomatik masuk dalam limbo kot? Tapi aku terfikir pulak kenapa Fischer Jr tu kena tembak? Yg menembak tu bukan ke Projection dia sendiri? n Projection dia sepatutnya hanya menembak tuan punya mimpi saja kan? yg mana mimpi layer 3 tu dipunya oleh Eams

kalau engineer 1st tu dah dedah rahsia semua pasal mimpi si Cobb tu, agaknya pasal tu kot Saito tahu ke sana? eerrr...ntah
cmf_GAIA Post at 20/7/2010 12:20 AM

gaia, yg tembak fischer jr tu Mal kan? scene yg tetiba si Mal turun dr atas pstu terus tembak fischer jr.
mal tu projection si cobb.

patt_sue

first time tengok memang blur sikit..tak berapa paham....pastu baca kat internet baru okay...
pas ni kena tengok skali lagi...

buiscasey

ia lebih menghiburkan bila berteori dan berbincang segala kemungkinan....nikmat dan kepuasan hiburan ...
cmf_GAIA Post at 20-7-2010 08:19

betul3x.. aku dah lama tak lepak board filem pun, masuk sini sbb inception...

buiscasey

Reply 111# cmf_GAIA

so, kalau yg kat bangunan runtuh2 tu limbo, abis yg tempat saito jadi tua tu apa plak? limbo tahap kedua?

yg aku pasti, tempat saito tua tu mmg limbo.. kompom... sbb apa, limbo tu dia mcm dream semua org share? so... yg aku perasaN, kat situ, ada pantai and anak cobb (mimpi cobb).. pastu ada rumah mcm temple.. (tu mimpi saito).. dua2 org punya mimpi ada...

Tapi aku terfikir pulak kenapa Fischer Jr tu kena tembak? Yg menembak tu bukan ke Projection dia sendiri? n Projection dia sepatutnya hanya menembak tuan punya mimpi saja kan? yg mana mimpi layer 3 tu dipunya oleh Eams

aku rasa projection boleh tembak saper2 la... cth mcm org jahat yg serang team inception kat city hujan2 tu.. tu aku rasa projection fisher... kan? dia punya security... anyway, lawak gila, city tu hujan sebab yusuf rasa nak kencing.. hahah...

IMO, ending dia, cobb still dalam mimpi dia kot... sbb totem tak jatuh...
but, kalau totem memang jatuh pun, aku rasa dia still dalam mimpi.. mungkin mimpi org lain.... ariadne perhaps? sbb dia pernah pergi apartment cobb. so dia boleh mengarkitekkan mimpi tu... ntahla....

anyway, who cares about the ending, sbb cobb dah dapat apa dia nak.. and dia bahagia... so, mimpi ke, tak mimpi ker.. it's a happy ending...

susano

tp kan aku nih konpius dkt scene last tu yg cobb tetiba dok kat pantai..adakah dia masih lg dlm layer 5 mimpi ms cobb ngan adrene turun cr fischer tu?

sayangidaku

kalo ikut turutan cmni kan?

1st layer  - yusuf (tp that stewardess yg jaga n kontrol alat dream machine tu in reality, yusuf jaga mnde tu in the 1st layer of dream n cmtu la seterusnya)
2nd layer - arthur (yg anti gravity punye scene tu, arthur yg kene jaga that machine)
3rd layer - eams (jaga machine kat snowy canada)
4th layer - cobb (there's no machine in sight, nak pg 5th layer, kene mati in 4th layer, tp ariadne jatuhkan diri utk kuar dr 4th layer-masuk balik 3rd layer-tak ikut cobb masuk limbo)
5th layer - limbo(cobb tersadai sorang2 tepi laut n jumpa the old saito).

ekceli 4th layer tu dah kire as limbo gak ke? sbb xde machine dah?
ke 4th n 5th tu ekceli layer yg sama? sbb tu xtau cmne tetiba cobb leh tersadai tepi pantai tu. tp the building tepi2 tu ala2 sama je mcm kat 4th layer.

buiscasey

kalo ikut turutan cmni kan?

ekceli 4th layer tu dah kire as limbo gak ke? sbb xde machine dah?
ke 4th n 5th tu ekceli layer yg sama? sbb tu xtau cmne tetiba cobb leh tersadai tepi pantai tu. tp the building tepi2 tu ala2 sama je mcm kat 4th layer.
sayangidaku Post at 20-7-2010 14:06

tu yg aku dok konpius tu...
4th and 5th tu layer sama ker? both limbo?
ataupun 4th limbo, 5th pun limbo.. limbo ada dua tahap?
or 4th, dream bebiasa, bukan limbo...
hehhe...

sherrina

baru lepas menonton dan bila baca teori-teori korang, nampak gaya kene gi tengok lagi sekali. Best giler movie ni.

cmf_GAIA

Paradoks -  satu gaya bahasa sastera yang iaitu sesuatu kenyataan yang mempunyai makna yg bertentangan.

Contoh ayat - "awak ni buruk tul la" tp maksud sebenar ialah "awak ni cantik la". Macam masa kecik kecik dulu mak mak kita kan ada cakap. "ha nak buat...buat la..pegi buat..". Maknanya dia taknak kita buat la....
Rhyno Post at 19-7-2010 07:54 PM

AKu pun masih tak paham dgn konsep Paradoks dlm ni....

gaia, yg tembak fischer jr tu Mal kan? scene yg tetiba si Mal turun dr atas pstu terus tembak fi ...
sayangidaku Post at 20-7-2010 08:30 AM

A'ah...lupa pulak...Mal orangnya....Mal tu bukan projection biasa tapi semcm anomaly or gangguan yg datang dari memori Cobb kan?

betul3x.. aku dah lama tak lepak board filem pun, masuk sini sbb inception...
buiscasey Post at 20-7-2010 11:42 AM

huhu...welcome back
   

tu yg aku dok konpius tu...
4th and 5th tu layer sama ker? both limbo?
ataupun 4th limbo, 5th  ...
buiscasey Post at 20-7-2010 02:42 PM

Ada kemungkinan jugak dari mimpi Eams (layer 3) masuk ke mimpi Cobb (layer 4) dulu....tapi kalau tengok mimpi Cobb tu bukan Adrianne yg reka kan? sebab semua bangunan n everything adalah based on Cobb punya memory + Cobb punya ciptaan...Adrianne pun tercegang2 tengok..sebab dia hanya construct mimpi sampai layer 3 saja....so mimpi Cobb is....mimpi yg dicostruct sendiri or memang Limbo? Kalau bukan Limbo so dari layer ke 4 tu lah dia masuk ke Limbo...errrr

aku_ker

macam ni baru clear. From cinemabelnd

Pada aku nobody can conclude anything until we know if the gasing stop spinning or not in the end scene.Good job Nolan!!

LanzSlumber

good image aku_ker... baru clear!!!

HaMiZiE

macam ni baru clear. From cinemabelnd

Pada aku nobody can conclude anything until we know if th ...
aku_ker Post at 20-7-2010 19:14

Thanks aku_ker for posting the level of dreams occured in INSECPTION...

The issue here is: whether the whole movie is actually set up in someone's dream... OR when they kick off their mission, they begin at reality time... and the rest are in the dreams... and once the mission accomplish, they manage to go back to the reality time...

Take note: The story starts with Cobb on the beach side... and moving back ward to level above(in a building where there is a riot outside)... and moving back ward to another level above i.e. in the train.... where most of us believe, all the stories happen at this level are occurred at reality time...

Then the story continues where they start to execute one mission i.e. to plant one idea into Fisher's mind. They execute this mission in the plane and this is a starting point where they start to dream... from one layer ... to another layer below and to another layer below... and once they done at each layer, they start to move back to above layer... move further up to another above layer... till every body wake up in the air plane....

Take note: Cobb and Saito are the last 2 persons to wake up... where Saito keeps his promise by calling 'someone' to allow Cobb to come back to US without any charges and free to see his family...

Then Nolan ends this story by letting Cobb to spin his totem (the scene where the totem keep spinning is zoomed very closely) to let the audiences to think whether Cobb has really back to his family and reality or not...

Take note as well... Cobb's architect is taken away by Saito's staff (the scene on the roof top, when Cobb wants to enter the heli)...

Overall, most audiences understand the whole movie from one scene to another scene... one plot to another plot but the question is if the whole movie is set up in someone's dream or the mixture of reality, dream and limbo...

peningggg.. peninggg...
banyak betol analisis yang dibaca ... sampai aku sendiri dah konpius balik

LanzSlumber

baru lepas tgk... rasa nak tgk lg..