[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 2005-2-18 08:35 AM:So you're saying the way of life of 'yesterdays' or trend you might say it, is not suitable for today's life. I ask you then, what's the difference between a 9 year old girl back then and a 9 year old girl of today? ...

Interesting line of questioning you got going here. So my dear not-so- Divine Ponytail answer me this :-
A man dumps his second betrothed wife and child in a hardly life sustainable wasteland. Leaves them to die to satisfy a partner of incest who bore him no seed. Is that act suitable now as we speak or do you find it revolting?

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

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Debmey wrote: What we have established is that Mo first showed interest in a 6 year old baby and then had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Thats paedophilia whether they were married or not.

As far as Fuzzman can sight and judge your abilities here, we can safely establish beyond reasonable doubt that you cannot provide anything at all to show that Prophet Mohammad was a paedophile. Let society judge Prophet Mohammad for what is accused of him, by them in history and on record - not from a lowly illiterate polemic reject like you who knows only to quote Bukhari.

Whle you quote Bukhari in earnest and total despair, you forget that what you quoted in your quest to make your case has in fact worked positively towards Prophet Mohammad and not otherwise.

In Bukhari vol. 5, #234 which speaketh : Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck."

Do you know anything about Ansari women?

ARI FUZZMAN[/quote]

The rest of you Old School can pucker up while we wait out on your maestro [ Debbo] to answer Fuzzman this [highlighted in case Debbo don't read so good!] C'mon Debbo don't let down your Old School fraternity here who are working really hard to prop up your paedophile cause here. Make them proud of you. Answer my question. :-
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANSARI WOMEN?

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 18-2-2005 at 10:47 AM ]

Debmey

I know that Mo took fancy of Aisha when she was only 6 and had sex with her when she was only 9.

Thats why I bear witness that Allah does not exist and Mo is a false prophet.

DivinePonytail

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 18-2-2005 10:24 AM:

Interesting line of questioning you got going here. So my dear not-so- Divine Ponytail answer me this :-
A man dumps his second betrothed wife and child in a hardly life sustainable  ...

Im sorry, I don't get your question. Could you reiterate it again in simple english. I'm afraid my english is not as good as yours.

Mind you, my question is directed personally to sonny. But it seems that you抮e so eagerly to join in, since you抮e the wise guy, why not answer my question on behalf of mr sonny here.

sonny~~

Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 2005-2-18 08:35 AM:


So you're saying the way of life of 'yesterdays' or trend you might say it, is not suitable for today's life.

thats rite
marryin 7 year old is cool those days but not these days.  read agin me cut n pastes

I ask you then, what's the difference between a 9 year old girl back then and a 9 year old girl of today?

theres no difference between 7 or 9 year old girls n boys back then n now

the difference is those days society allow those kiddos to get married but not now.  read me cut n pastes  

peace

sonny~~

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-18 11:18 AM:
[size=-2]I know that Mo took fancy of Aisha when she was only 6 and had sex with her when she was only 9.

Thats why I bear witness that Allah does not exist and Mo is a false prophet. ...

stay cool donkey
ur pathetic cursin, spammin n hecklin not gonna keep impotent trinity erect.  trust me

follow DIVINEPONYTAIL's line of questionin.  at least his grey matter not as sick as urs.  hehe  

peace

[ Last edited by sonny~~ on 18-2-2005 at 12:54 PM ]

sonny~~

Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 2005-2-18 11:27 AM:


Im sorry, I don't get your question. Could you reiterate it again in simple english. I'm afraid my english is not as good as yours.

Mind you, my question is directed personally to sonny. But ...

simple logic really
those days its okie dokie to dump wife n kid for another, now its not.  simple

likewise its cool for those days society to wrap women's feet till they become tiny so that they couldnt runaway, now its not  

peace

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-18 10:24 AM:

Interesting line of questioning you got going here. So my dear not-so- Divine Ponytail answer me this :-
A man dumps his second betrothed wife and child in a hardly life sustainable wasteland. Leaves them to die to satisfy a partner of incest who bore him no seed. Is that act suitable now as we speak or do you find it revolting?

Debmey

In those days Mo fancied a 6 year old baby and had sex with her when she was only 9.
This girl became barren as a r4esult and was wid owed at 17.

FaithHealer3

Pedophilia : The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

Lets see if Pedophilia shoe fits p.Muhammad.

The Signs/Symptoms
Sexual interest in young girls.
Here p.Muhammad show his fondess for fondling young girls..
(Bukhari V7B62N17)Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said,"Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Having re-occuring sex related dreams (wet-dreams?) involving young girl
Here p.Muhammad had confessed to 2 dreams about Aisha even before she was even married to him. Aisha would have been younger than 6 years old.
(Bukhari V7B62N15)Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said (to me), "You have been shown to me twice in (my) dreams. A man was carrying you in a silken cloth and said to me, 'This is your wife.' I uncovered it; and behold, it was you. I said to myself, 'If this dream is from Allah, He will cause it to come true.' ".

Re-occuring desire to bed more young girls
Here p.Muhammad is said to have been "turn on" by a crawling baby and had expressed his weird desire.
Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.'  But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab...

The Act
Having sexual intercorse with a child
Here p.Muhammad is said to have deflowered Aisha when she was 9years old. A 9 years old girl is a child by any standard.
Bukhari V7B62N64:Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

There is no doubt that having sex with a 9 year old girl is an act of pedophie. Its pedophilia alright, buying her from her parents or claiming marring the child by signing some weird contracts at his whim and fancy, not withstanding.

The symtoms are there. The act is there. The shoe fits. Like it not, it's a perfect fit.

Now, is it wrong to be a pedophile in 7th century? answer is NO.
Is it wrong to be a pedophile today? the answer is YES.

Bottomline, p.Muhammad is not a perfect example for other people for all time.

DivinePonytail

Now, is it wrong to be a pedophile in 7th century? answer is NO.
Is it wrong to be a pedophile today? the answer is YES.

Bottomline, p.Muhammad is not a perfect example for other people for all time.

Exactly. Great post there FaithHealer3.
Thanks to sonny for backing up the point.

Fuzzman

So the question still remains for all time. Can anyone of you provide hard proofs that say Prophet Mohammad was a CONVICTED, CONFIRMED, RENOWNED, COMMONLY CONCENSUSED, PUBLISHED, CONDEMNED AND COMMONLY AGREED UPON paedophile during his time?

Come Old School peps, you gotta do better than that? Looks like you people don't even have a prominent Western source to back up your arguments except for the writings of Bukhari! Are you peps the only ones who see Prophet Mohammad as whom you wish?

SHOW HARD PROOFS THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD WAS A CONVICTED AND CONFIRMED PAEDOPHILE.

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Debmey wrote: In those days Mo fancied a 6 year old baby and had sex with her when she was only 9. This girl became barren as a r4esult and was wid owed a

Interesting? Debmey is avoiding answering Fuzzman on the part of the Ansari women. I'd like to see "wiseguys" like Not-so-Divine ponytail and FaithHealer say something on this - to which I know they will not. Being beat ain't part of their agenda here. That's why!

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Great presentation Faithhealer. Can you give me the URL of your material? We are exposing more of Mo by the minute. Ahahahahahahahahaha..................

cheers

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-18 11:15 PM:
Great presentation Faithhealer. Can you give me the URL of your material? We are exposing more of Mo by the minute. Ahahahahahahahahaha..................cheers

Hahahahaha... you'd definately cheer us all up if you will tell Fuzzman who the Ansari women were and what they represent? C'mon you're a smart guy aintcha, so Fuzzman will allow you the pleasure of helpers in the form of Divine Ponytail, FaithHealer and just about anybody you might wanna rope in to tide you over with an answer. Take this generous offer as a 2:23 handicap handed out free of charge minus the holy water.

SO WHO ARE THE ANSARI WOMEN AND WHAT DO THEY REPRESENT?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

We'll stick to the topic.

Mo fancied a 6 year old baby and had sex with her when she was only 9.
This girl became barren as a result and was widowed at 17.

Mo was a paedophile. An immoral person.

aenemy7

When u married to a girl, is it  considered as a phaedophile or an act of adultery???? can someone proof any medical discovery that Aisha or a 9 year old girl cannot have a baby(the thai girl did...)???? If young marriage considered as phaedophile at that time???why does Aisha family agreed it at the 1st place??? :hmm: ,

Khadijah the 1st wife of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was a divorcee,far older than Prophet Muhammad(pbuh),who knows Aisha was destined to married the Rasullulah to represent the young generations of her age and by the time she was grown up she can teach and guide her generations to the true teachings of Islam, she learns a lot from the Rasulullah and became one of the most important women in Islam history....by the way, Aisha is the only virgin that the prophet Muhammad married,

Allah have reason for all of the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) marriage to show an example for the later generations, a phaedophile case can be considered as sex before marriage to a minor girl, but Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did married Aisha legally with approval from Aisha parents!! so there's no way he can be accused to a phaedophile case....

Did u know who is the king of child pornography today????go to "freemason" thread and see for urself,just browse the page there u'll find it there somewhere!!! who is it or should i say " the chosen people of the god"....got the idea who is it????:lol




Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Debmey

Did anyone say anything abt adultery here? Nope, its paedophilia. Mo was a paedophile for fancying a 6 year old and haviing sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Consent by her parents don't mean its not paedophilia.

Aisha became barren as a result and developed psychological problems. She became a ring leader in the first muslim civil war that killed thousands of muslims and millions more as the conflict carried on till today.

Poor Aisha. She became a widow at 17. She lost the war and ended up under house arrest till she died, with no chance to remarry again.

Debmey

here's a new song for all of you.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/audio/Islamsnot4me.htm

aenemy7

wasn't Phaedophile is only applied to the one who have sex with a minor without marriage???:lol ....


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Debmey

Nope.