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so lu expect papadom dgn bajet x seberapa neh kena logik-selogik logiknya,dan filem hollywood yg bajet lg beso x perlu logik sbb dorang leh kaver dgn storyline etc..??..WTH!! |
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142# kecimpret
u're missing my point.
i'm not saying ITS OK for them to buat cerita mengarot. I don't give a damn actually.
what I'm actually saying, IT'S NOT OK for US to buat cerita yang byk tak logik. get it???
and even more NOT OK for us to forgive ourselves by saying takpelah, cerita hollywood pun byk gak mengarot, but org still tgk. So what cerita hollywood mengarut? do i care? No i dont.
BUt if cerita malaysia byk tak logik, yes I do care! faham tak? open your mind...just open it! |
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Post Last Edit by idolfan at 22-10-2009 16:11
aku kasi contoh.
ko ade sebatang kayu r. dan kawan mat saleh ko ade sebatang kayu.
korang berdua kena bentuk satu benda yang amazing out of it dan menang hadiah.
tapi ko cuma ade sebilah pisau ukir. tp kawan mat saleh ko ade machine bagai. dan dia akhirnya boleh bentuk something out of it menggunakan machine. dan ko plak hanye ade pisau tu.
adekah ko nak buat ala kadar? atau ko akan buat lebih hebat drpda dia..walaupun ko tader amazing technology. kalau ko pk "aku ade pisau ukir je..tak mampu"...so u're a loser..nuff said.
kalau ko teliti, kalau ko bersungguh, kalau yakin; ko boleh bentuk something yang lebih hebat dripda apa yg mat saleh tu mampu buat. thats what i mean by challenging yourselves.
kalau semua benda tak logik yang ada dlm filem2 melayu dimaafkan dengan mudah, sampai bile2 pun bende tak logik tu akan ada. paham?? |
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it is u who r missing the point...sorang pakai mesin sorang lg pakai pisau..and u expect pakai pisau made better than yg pakai machine???..almost impossible and bordering illogical..sama cam lu suh keta myvi beat evo in drag race..wa pun kalo leh pelem lokal neh xde cacat celanya ngalahkan hollywood tp the reality is...every film has its own flaw even filem terbaik di akademi..slumdog,inglorious basterds is not a perfect film..mau perfek filem??..plz live it in ur fantasy world not on reality world! |
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145# kecimpret
I'm not asking for a perfect film. did i?
what i'm asking is for US to stop forgiving ourselves for the mistakes that can be corrected!...semua benda yang tak logik yang dickp dlm filem tu, kalau betul2 buat homework, kaji dgn teliti, semua tu boleh diubah! put more thoughts into it, it could have been a better film. again I'M NOT ASKING FOR A PERFECT MOVIE. so don't put words into my mouth.
.i'm not actually talking about the film je..i'm talking about our mindset ..omg..couldn't you be more narrow? |
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145# kecimpret
SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE. find me the flaws and tell me, how big are the flaws nak dicomparekan dgn cerita tu punya impact.
and please, dont start comparing PAPADOM and SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE now. and i'm not gonna too. |
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Post Last Edit by psychomaniac at 22-10-2009 18:07
142# kecimpret
u're missing my point.
i'm not saying ITS OK for them to buat cerita mengarot. I don't give a damn actually.
what I'm actually saying, IT'S NOT OK for US to buat cerita yan ...
idolfan Post at 22-10-2009 16:04 
....yes...i get ur point....
...bagi aku Papadom is a good movie....ada mcm2 rasa bila aku nengok ari tu...
...cuma...ada part yg tak logik n agak kaku dlm filem ni yg membuatkan aku rasa sedikit terganggu...
...filem Malaysia tak ader budget yg gah macam filem Hollywood...tapi kita boleh create filem yg hebat biarpun budget ciput...yg penting our cretivity...
...jgn samakan dengan filem Hollywood...kerana memang kita akan kalah dari segi teknologi pembikinan filem2 diorang....tapi kita cuba tandingi dari segi personality n creativity....takde filem yg perfect maa...apa2 pun...sokonglah industri perfileman Malaysia...:pompom: :pompom:
...emm...by d way...aku suka lakonan Khiriah dalam filem ni...nampak slumber...cool...n she's damn cute!!! |
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145# kecimpret
SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE. find me the flaws and tell me, how big are the flaws nak dicomparekan dgn cerita tu punya impact.
and please, dont start comparing PAPADOM and SLUMDOG MILL ...
idolfan Post at 22-10-2009 17:36
to put it in a simple way...every film has its own flaw..x kira laaa ianya sebesar zarah sekali pun..jgn plak tuduh wa bias,sbb slumdog is one of my fave movies..and i dont think flaw yg ade dlm papadom neh impaknya smp ganggu jln cerita..same as slumdog...the most important thing is bila penonton kuar dr panggung dgn senyum lebar,filem tuh dikira berjaya...dan majoriti penonton yg tgk papadom berasa camtu..even the best film in the world cant please everybody..so instead of tellin people to change their mindset..tolong berpijak dibumi nyata dulu |
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Baru jer nengok citer ni kemarin, based on previous comments yg kata movie ni best..awal2 citer ok la jugak, tpi bila sampai part c mia tu dah besar n masuk uni, mcm merepeks jer hehe yg part main rugby and cheerleading tuh..like geli lah aku nengok..ala2 citer high school omputih gitu ekeke
yg best, nasi kandar..nampak sedap jer  hehe |
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just watched it this evening.
baca somewhere, ada org cakap mcm yasmin ahmad punya movie. IMO... xde mcm YA punya movie pun. Afdlin punya style lain, YA lain. Citer ok in the beginning tp like someone said in the previous posts, lepas Mia besar masuk U, citer cam berterabur skit.
Bangga sbb dalam show tadi ada couple orang puteh tgk. Tapi sayang xde English subtitle. Hope orang puteh tu pandai cakap melayu. |
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da tgok, smlm..n paksa org lain yg da tgok, tgok llg skali, sbab xde teman...yg tgok lg skali 2 pun bantai gelak xhengat, apatah lg yaya yg bru tgok..
4 me, muvie tu agak best...ade unsur lawak but at da same time also buatkan air mata yaya kuar jugak at the end..so touching...
neway, feel like worth to watch....:-)
sokonglah industri tempatan... |
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Post Last Edit by idolfan at 22-10-2009 15:28
it's quite funny actually bile korang ckp yang kalau citer melayu mengarot tape, sbb citer hollywood pun byk yang mengarut.
but here's the reality that all of you need to realize. citer hollywoodmengarut pun, they can cover the flaws with many things; interestingstoryline, interesting characters, huge props, twisted plots, CGI andthe list goes on. dan bajet citer dorg pun besau. walau mcm mana punmengarot pun sesuatu scene (yes korang akan nampak logik dan tak logik)tapi in just one minute after that, korang akan terpegun balik dgn thespecial effects and so on.
but untuk filem melayu, i dont think patut ade scene2 yang tak logik.kalau citer malaysia asik 'dimaafkan' camni..sampai bile pun our filmwont be recognized. sbb ape? standard "mengarot" kita lebih rendahdaripada standard "mengarot" filem luar especially hollywood films.
i'm not saying PAPADOM tak bagus, but after taking into account allthose flaws..it triggers my mind. but still, for me, idea cerita afdlinSGT BAIK dlam PAPADOM, but im sorry to say, the execution was bad. theidea is there, cuma tak di mould dgn betul.
our community needs to challenge themselves. buang mindset "takpelah,dah cukup bagus"..because it's seriously damaging. stop comparing us tothem but at the same time think that we're good enough; forgiveourselves for the weakness and pujuk diri sendiri saying, "alah..dorgpun bukan bagus sgt..". Tak rasa bodoh ke?
thats why NONE of our films layak nak masuk international festivals.dan jgn kata all those international festivals tak bagus, we need themto be recognized. tak bosan ke jadi jaguh kampung je? Kita bina KLCCpun untuk dpt recognition. Supaya dunia nampak Malaysia. Jadi bile kitanak ada filem yang segah, sehebat, se'grand' KLCC?
anyway, terasa mcm membebel plak. sorry. congrats kat PAPADOM sbb dlmdpt kutip 2.4 mill in just 13 days. good job! teruskan support filemmalaysia yang bagus.
idolfan Post at 22-10-2009 15:26 
well said idolfan.... yg aku highlightkan tu mmg tepat sekali utk gambarkan papadom... |
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149# kecimpret
Sebab orang MALAYSIA amat suke dgn cerita yang byk unsur2 lawak. Apabila cerita tu bnyak scene lawak TAK bodoh, dan dpt buat dorg gelak bagai nak mampos dalam panggung, dah cukup untuk buat dorg satisfied. Dan akhirnya keluar panggung dgn SENYUM LEBAR, like you said.
So thats your definition of good movie? Bile buat orang senyum lebar, the movie is good?
In a sense yes sbb penonton yang akan tentukan kejayaan sesebuah movie. And I'm still berpijak di bumi nyata, and what I can see, our films are going nowhere. Why? Sbb2 di atas lah. Penonton malaysia hanya tahu keseronokan, dan nak tgk yang ringan2 sahaja. Baguslah kalau macam tu. Don't change our mindset. Cukup hanya dengan kita berpuas hati dengan apa yang terhasil.
Kita belum sampai tahap dimana kita boleh berpuas hati dgn apa yang kita buat. jangan sekali-kali berangan compare filem2 kita dgn filem asing. Belum lagi filem lagi ada filem kita yang so called terbaik, mampu menawan dunia. Kalau ada yang baik sekalipun, dipandang sebelah mata sbb tema yang dipaparkan tak sesuai dgn budaya dan jiwa.
Baguslah.
PAPADOM kalau dibawa keluar, mungkin boleh berjaya. Sbb mungkin org luar takkan perasaan perkara2 yang tak logik yang dah dibincangkan.
No matter what I will still support our local film industry. Cuma harap2 ada org yang berpk di luar kotak sedikit, dan lebih berhati2. jangan abaikan perkara kecil, sbb perkara2 kecil tu, kalau dah byk, leh jadi besar. |
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last saturday tgk dkt alamanda..mmg full house..aku dh lama xtgk citer melayu kat panggung coz hubby aku xske malay muvi..tp bg aku, aku g tgk wayg sbb nk santai2..klu citer berat2 meleret2 sure aku dh tertdo..cth..transformer..2x tgk 2x tertdo..
aku rasa citer ni mmg best..sbb hubby aku yg xpenah2 nangis tgk muvi..1st time nangis..hubby aku pun ckp best..he said, afdlin did a good job..dan hubby aku ckp nk beli dvd klu dh kuar..ermm...mmg terkesan betul citer ni kat hati hubby aku..maybe dia kurg dpt kasih syg dr ayah kot..dan aku pun asyik terbyg abah aku stp kali scene sedih2 tu..  |
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lebih krg intipati filem ni dgn satu filem english.. yg dah kuar kt astro.. kisah bapa dia terlalu menjaga anaknya sehingga bermcm kejadian lucu yg berlaku |
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haku suka lawak yg xbodoh dlm citer ni...menghiburkan.. |
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paling best adalah waktu ending...si mia pegang teddy bear kat que tue....mmg tak bley blah... |
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paling best adalah waktu ending...si mia pegang teddy bear kat que tue....mmg tak bley blah...
arduka_kencana Post at 12-11-2009 10:26
yup..part ni paling ramai2 org gelak hahahaha |
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