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Tragedi di Mina: Selepas stampede kini khemah jemaah pula yg terbakar #404
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Post time 25-9-2015 11:23 AM
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nolya replied at 25-9-2015 09:09 AM
Apabila kita berada dlm lautan manusia yg berbagai bangsa dan melihat mereka berperangai bermacam ...
Ya dan kita harus muhasabah diri keadaan kita di padang masyar jugak berdasarkan amalan kita. Sebab ada terdengar ceramah ustaz kazim semalam, ada manusia yg tak terasa panas dan dahaganya bedasarkan amal ibadat semasa kt dunia. |
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Betul Ustaz Mohhamad Asyraf Yusuf ...
untungnya jemaah Malaysia masih boleh mendengar kata untuk tidak berpusu pusu sewaktu masa afdhal... namun apa yang kita lihat Jemaah dari Negara lain memang mencari waktu afdhol ...
(Jemaah malaysia dinasihatkan tidak melontar pada waktu Puncak ini )
disinilah berlakunya ..Arnol susahkerja pun boleh lembek di himpit ...
kesalahan tidak diletakkan 100% kpd Saudi . Tapi sebagai khadam 2 tanah suci yang memegang amanah pengurusan Haji Umat islam . sesuatu yang lebih significant dari sudut kawalan keselamatan perlu di rujuk kembali . Dan tentulah juga pengurusan haji negara negara islam terlibat juga perlu mengkaji semula pengisian dan kefahaman Jemaah mengenai Ibadah tersebut .
terima kasih atas pencerahan yg sangat jelas. Jazakallah. |
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Blame shifted towards Saudi authorities on Friday after a stampede at the hajj killed at least 717 people, in the worst tragedy to strike the annual Muslim pilgrimage in a quarter of a century.
The disaster, which also left several hundred people injured, was the second deadly accident to hit worshippers this month, after a crane collapse in the holy city of Mecca killed more than 100.
At the scene, bodies lay in piles, surrounded by discarded personal belongings and flattened water bottles, while rescue workers laid bodies in long rows on stretchers, limbs protruding from beneath white sheets.
The stampede broke out in Mina, about five kilometres (three miles) from Mecca, during the symbolic stoning of the devil ritual. The Saudi civil defence service said it was still counting the dead, who included pilgrims from different countries.
Iran announced that 90 of its nationals were among the victims, and accused regional rival Saudi Arabia of safety errors, while pilgrims at the site blamed the authorities and said they were afraid to continue the annual religious rituals.
King Salman ordered "a revision" of hajj organisation so that pilgrims can "carry out their rituals in complete safety", the official Saudi Press Agency said, while Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayyef, who chair's the kingdom's hajj committee, ordered an inquiry.
A Saudi minister blamed the pilgrims for the tragedy, saying they had not followed hajj rules.
"Many pilgrims move without respecting the timetables" set for the hajj, Health Minister Khaled al-Falih told El-Ekhbariya television.
"If the pilgrims had followed instructions, this type of accident could have been avoided."
- 'Great heat and fatigue' -
The stampede began at around 9:00 am (0600 GMT), shortly after the civil defence said on Twitter it was dealing with a "crowding" incident in Mina.
Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims had converged on Mina to throw pebbles at one of three walls representing Satan, for the last major ritual of the hajj, which officially ends on Sunday.
Interior ministry spokesman General Mansur al-Turki said the stampede was caused when "a large number of pilgrims were in motion at the same time" at an intersection of two streets in Mina.
"The great heat and fatigue of the pilgrims contributed to the large number of victims," he said. Temperatures in Mina had reached 46 degrees Celsius (115 degrees Fahrenheit) Thursday.
Witnesses, however, blamed the authorities.
"There was crowding," said Ahmed Abu Bakr, a 45-year-old Libyan who escaped the stampede with his mother. "The police had closed all entrances and exits to the pilgrims' camp, leaving them only one."
Abu Bakr said the police appeared inexperienced, complaining that "they don't even know the roads and the places around here".
After the incident helicopters patrolled overhead and ambulance sirens wailed as the injured were rushed to hospitals, AFP reporters said.
At one facility, a steady stream of ambulances discharged pilgrims on stretchers.
The disaster came as the world's 1.5 billion Muslims marked Eid al-Adha, the Feast of Sacrifice, the most important holiday on the Islamic calendar.
It was the second major accident this year for hajj pilgrims, after a construction crane collapsed on September 11 at Mecca's Grand Mosque, Islam's holiest site, killing 109 people, including many foreigners.
- Foreign casualties? -
The hajj is among the five pillars of Islam, and every capable Muslim must perform it at least once in a lifetime. Official figures released Thursday said 1,952,817 pilgrims had performed this year's hajj, including almost 1.4 million foreigners.
For years the event was marred by stampedes and fires, but it had been largely incident-free for nearly a decade following safety improvements.
In the last major incident, in January 2006, 364 pilgrims were killed in a stampede during the stoning ritual, and in 1990, 1,426 mainly Asian pilgrims died in a tunnel stampede at Mina after a ventilation system failure.
There was little immediate information on the nationalities of the dead, though officials in Turkey said at least 18 of its citizens were reported missing.
In Shiite-dominated Iran, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei blamed "improper measures" and "mismanagement" by Saudi authorities, who he said "must accept the huge responsibility for this catastrophe".
Condolences came from capitals around the region and the globe, including from UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, while Pope Francis expressed solidarity with Muslims and voiced the "closeness of the church" in the face of the tragedy.
The stoning ritual emulates the Prophet Abraham, who is said to have stoned the devil at three locations when he tried to dissuade Abraham from God's order to sacrifice his son Ishmael.
At the last moment, God spares the boy, sending a sheep to be sacrificed in his place.
Muslims worldwide commemorated Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son by slaughtering cows, sheep and other animals on Thursday as part of Eid al-Adha.
Eid celebrations were also marred in neighbouring Yemen, where an Islamic State suicide bomber struck a mosque in the capital Sanaa in an attack targeting Shiite rebels, leaving 25 dead. |
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Edited by Orange1 at 25-9-2015 11:41 AM
Bangsa ni tak agak2 nak buat bisness punn jgnlah sampaii tak pentingkan keselamatan. Klu dah berjuta orang diberi kuota utk pergi mekah pd masa yg sama mmg mcm2 blh berlaku, patutnya kurangkan kuota tu. Ummah yg perangaiii terroristtt klu berkumpulll jota2 mmg menakutkan aura yg terhasilll. Agaknya setan gelakk gulinn gulinnnn tgk ummah suci yg nak g baling dorg sampai mati termati dulu dek perangaiii terroristtt. |
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Sangat setuju.... dan pengalaman saya juga.... kita tenguk perempuan bangsa mereka kecik sahaja.. tapi tenaga mereka boleh buat kita berpusing 360 darjah.. itu pengalaman kami suami isteri.... mereka memang sangat kasar.... dan pentingkan diri sendiri...
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"The great heat and fatigue of the pilgrims contributed to the large number of victims," he said. Temperatures in Mina had reached 46 degrees Celsius (115 degrees Fahrenheit) Thursday.
Witnesses, however, blamed the authorities.
"There was crowding," said Ahmed Abu Bakr, a 45-year-old Libyan who escaped the stampede with his mother. "The police had closed all entrances and exits to the pilgrims' camp, leaving them only one."
Bunyi nya macam sama dan typical ... |
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one thing in my mind... kalo dah ramai pilgrims cuak ni and they choose to melontar time2 x ramai org like malam ke ape.. harap2 pihak saudi aware la maybe time2 lain yg selalu x ramai org pun boleh ramai org this time...
doa dr jauh harap2 all the jemaah sume dipermudahkan
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ye, tapi takla sampai 2 juta orang
paling kuat pun ribu-ribu je, maybe 4-5 ribu oang satu lorong tu
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Berebut waktu afdhal hingga menganiaya orang lain. Agaknya tuhan terima tak? |
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kelentong apa ni minah senget???
so you percaya la ada 2 juta orang kat lorong tu?
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hahaha choii sgt...nampak nur ke bangkem?  |
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thank you for sharing... sebab selama ni mmg x boleh imagine perjalanan para jemaah melontar sekarang. zaman dulu 10 years ago.. lari2 gembira jek pegi melontar time tu huhuhuuh.
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btl tu u...kalau jemaah ni tak betulkan niat n doa byk2 n beribadah semata2 kerana Allah taala insyaAllah sume dipermudahkan..
my aunty cerita ada time dia buat haji dulu masa dia tgh solat masa dia sujud dia dgr suara burung kuat sgt..tak leh digambarkan cane kuat tu n kebanyakan yg solat n tak kuat iman mmg lari lintang pukang nasib dia tak kene pijak..tp my aunty dh igt pesan ustaz n suami dia sbb dugaan kt mekah lain2..cpt2 dia sedar n trus je solat mcm biasa...
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Jemaah Malaysia diajar dan dididik untuk tidak menyakiti Jemaah lain...mengejar waktu afdhol dan mengabaikan Hablum Minnas ...
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ada forumner ckp waktu afdhal itu cuma amalan sunat sahaja. berbaloike menngejar ibdat sunat sampai menyebabkan ramai terkorban.
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semasa di mina pegawai2 Th dah mengingatkan agar jemaah msia jgn pergi melontar waktu afdhol dan sememangnya jemaah kita jenis yg mendengar ckp. wpun ada juga yg ingkar tp x ramai. alhamdulillah kwsn penempatan kita x bercampur dgn jemaah timur tengah, afrika, pakistan, india dan bangladesh. teringat cerita mak dulu2 xde asing2 spt skrg, ditambah pulak mana ada jalan sehala. pasti kesukarannya lebih teruk dr skrg.
sy dpt bayangkan jln yg mereka lalu bukn nya lebar sgt, kemudian terjadi pertembungan jemaah dr jln2 yg berbeza di hadapan kwsn jamrah. ya Allah kalau sorg terjatuh, kemungkinan besar x selmt. berbeza sgt dgn laluan jemaah m'sia yg lalu di dlm terowong tanpa perlu lalu celah2 khemah penempatan dan disediakan pula walkalator bg memudahkan pergerakan org2 tua.
moga2 tiada lg kejadian sebegini menjelang selesainya masyair haji. |
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He he .. sekarang tak boleh gumbira seperti 10 tawun dulu ... jemaah memang ramai ... saya perhatikan cara jemaah berjalan yg agak perlahan juga menyumbang kpd kesesakan . Tapi ini mungkin berlaku pada hari pertama ketika melontar jamrah kubra dan waktu afdhol... hari hari berikutnya jemaah sepatutnya dapat merancang waktu yg sesuai untuk mereka ... biasanya belah pagi sebelum matahari naik memang ramai ... wallah huallam ..
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betul - amalan sunat mengikut sunnah. namun jika kita tidak berupaya untuk mengikutnya dinasihat tunggu sehingga keadaan reda. perkara yg sama berlaku untuk mencium Hajarul Aswad ... amalan sunnah . namun untuk melaksanakan@ mendapatkannya bukan mudah . maka itu untuk jemaah Malaysia tidak digalakkan berpusu pusu dan berempuhan semata mata untuk mencium hajarul aswad ... saya pernah melihat didepan mata sendiri bagaimana jemaah daripada Negara Asia barat di lambung ke udara semasa berebut untuk mencium H aswad ...begitu sesaknya di situ sehingga memijak jemaah lain dan berjalan diatas bahu jemaah ... akhir nya di dilambung @ tolak sehingga jatuh ke kawasan yg kurang kepadatan.... wallah huallam..
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kemaruk replied at 25-9-2015 11:49 AM
kelentong apa ni minah senget???
so you percaya la ada 2 juta orang kat lorong tu?
Sudahlah kem, tak perlulah nak jdi juara mempertikaikan jumlah orang di lorong itu. Tak penting pun. Drp nak brgaduh, sdkahkn alFatihah lgi baik. |
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Kalau dah terroristsss tu time buat ibadah punn mcm nak pegi berperanggg mcm mana tak ramaiii yg mati. |
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Post time 25-9-2015 11:34 AM
