educated vs uneducated

my-alja · Post time 4-11-2008 10:41 AM

Originally posted by lizz_7777 at 4-11-2008 09:59 AM
U bace.... hafal.... then muntah already label well educated???? Pity!!!! Well its beyond that.... u kene betul betul faham and digest the knowledge first....couple with few years e ...

hehehe...our kids in the system

lizz_7777 · Post time 4-11-2008 01:52 PM

Aku dari dulu x berkenan our education system perlu sedikit perubahan walau x banyak but who we are to say that????

mbhcsf · Post time 4-11-2008 03:55 PM

u could say that by u know hantaq suggestion or get in touch with
kementerian peljaran or pendidikan

hamizao · Post time 4-11-2008 11:47 PM

Originally posted by my-alja at 4-11-2008 08:41 AM
kebolehan berfikir ....terlalu mentah isinya kot hami, boleh bagi details..plzz
sebab kalo konteks "kebolehan berfikir" ala malaya nie....u baca, u hafal, u muntah.....well educated already

Basically , I am trying to espouse what the true meaning of "education" and hence "being educated" ought to be ....the way you think...wholesome and complete. Perhaps not many may reach its zenith but rather they get distributed anywhere within the bell-shaped curve. Hence the differences which many have brought out. I am also aware of the very loose reference/interpretation people make generally usually due to their own understanding. You see if someone has received a wholesome education, he is usually well tutored in many facets which are important and valuable in life. So he is expected to be able to conduct himself anywhere. Many refer being educated to having obtained a certain paper qualification which to me is only half of the story. Yes, when you have a degree it does say something about your academic achievement. It is important, yes, as in present world as it an important requirement if you want to get a particular job, or any job in some cases. Don't you ever wonder why many graduates have been rejected bila pergi job interview? Graduan ala apa ke tu?

You see, formal education can only be as good as the "system" is. In some places you can get your MBA at the age of 23!

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lizz_7777 · Post time 5-11-2008 12:01 AM

Aku pun nanti dikata terlebih pandai.

lizz_7777 · Post time 5-11-2008 12:02 AM

Tanx mbhcsf mane tau my suggestions diterime.

Agul · Post time 7-11-2008 09:07 PM

That is still judging. We see something, we judge it as bad, we judge it as good.

How does it feels to be totally without judgement? maybe for just a minute or two...

hamizao · Post time 7-11-2008 10:41 PM

Generally, ppl do have to judge their choices/selection/subject etc....

Its the basis that matters.

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Agul · Post time 7-11-2008 11:20 PM

yeah, that's why i go fortr just one minute, or two...

probably have to stop thinking for that to happen...

hamizao · Post time 7-11-2008 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Agul at 7-11-2008 11:20 PM
yeah, that's why i go fortr just one minute, or two...

probably have to stop thinking for that to happen...

Huh? But yes the human in us crave for understanding............thats why. To stop thinking is also possible............but
only the well trained can do that.

Agul · Post time 8-11-2008 12:00 AM

the we must train....

in a relaxed way...

HOTlips · Post time 9-11-2008 12:33 PM

Yeah! I know.

But what's wrong with judging?

Oh, we will be judged at the end. Don't forget that.

hamizao · Post time 9-11-2008 10:16 PM

Usually when we say don't judge others, we mean do not do it if you do not have all the facts. Thats why I say its the basis that matters.

To stop thinking is usually to find solace, inner peace and perhaps also to seek trancendental level of understanding our being..........

my-alja · Post time 10-11-2008 09:21 AM

perspective without judging?...
errr...macam ikan tanpa sirip, boleh gituk...

let say u see people without cloth....how do u think without judging?

my-alja · Post time 10-11-2008 09:22 AM

judging with respect

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judging with respect....like hot said before

HOTlips · Post time 10-11-2008 09:32 AM

Judging with respect doesn't mean that we r being judgemental kannn???

my-alja · Post time 10-11-2008 10:09 AM

Originally posted by HOTlips at 10-11-2008 09:32 AM
Judging with respect doesn't mean that we r being judgemental kannn???

you are being judgemental when u make a statement for people to agree with you...

if it inside, between ur heart and ur brain.....i call it "rationalise"

mbhcsf · Post time 13-11-2008 01:31 PM

one think to judge a good thought irrespective whether that Tom , dick or Harry place or background of origin is to look at the content of ideas.....you'd know how to sieve the u know.....

Agul · Post time 13-11-2008 06:58 PM

Originally posted by HOTlips at 9-11-2008 12:33 PM
Yeah! I know. But what's wrong with judging? Oh, we will be judged at the end. Don't forget that.

what's wrong with not judging? in the end it's not for us to judge...

you know some people at first they think someone is good, rose tinted glasses... they get captivated by their own imagination, then something happens they suddenly reverse their opinion and that person suddenly comes from hell....

all the rollercoaster helter skelter judging... oh what the heck is that, meh....

nothing changes, really, nothing...

only our judgement, perception changes... and our judgement may not means anything... it may be just a bucketload of rubbish... nothing sacred.

hamizao · Post time 13-11-2008 10:55 PM

It really depends on what you are judging and by what means. We make many decisions in our life...some are serious ones , some are not but decisions still need to be made in order that you move on in life. If you don't make decisions others may do it for you and in some cases the laws are set for such eventualities.........say, pay a fine if you delay.