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pilihan first degree? doktor dan engineer shj ke yg hebat??

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Post time 9-10-2006 04:32 PM | Show all posts
yang penting semuanyer bergantung antara satu sama lain........
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Post time 9-10-2006 11:43 PM | Show all posts
usaha tangga kejayaan

cewwahh!
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Post time 9-10-2006 11:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by herie at 9-10-2006 04:32 PM
yang penting semuanyer bergantung antara satu sama lain........



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Post time 10-10-2006 04:48 PM | Show all posts
Rasanya Engineer and Doctor in terms of pay, fresh grad lebih kurang sama jerk (Dr lebih sket)
Pasal Dr kena kejer gomen and salary+elaun lebih kurang 2.8 k.
Engineer, depends on your field. Civil, mech or elec..so far rasanya yang mahal maybe elec, itu pun kalau dapat ker ngan multi national company.
Gaji pun lebih kurang 2.5k-2.7k. But still lower than Dr kan.
Tapi, Dr after habis three years of compulsary service + 1 year of HO (kerja cam lembu), then join the private hospital or clinics..their income boleh shoot up up to 8k per month (+locum)..banyakkan?
And masa ni engineer tadi baru jer berangan nak jadi senior engineer ngan gaji 4-5k. Tu pun sakit. Unless u buat sales..lumayan jugak.

Sakit dulu takper, senang kemudian.

Satu lagi..kerja doctor adalah kerja paling TAK glemer...ngadap orang sakit tiap hari.
Lagi best kerjer make-up artist, hari -hari jumpa muka lawa...gaji pun leh tahan. :lol
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Post time 13-10-2006 11:41 AM | Show all posts
i m scientist..career plg low profile n x glemer..
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Post time 13-10-2006 06:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kekekek at 10-10-2006 04:48 PM
Rasanya Engineer and Doctor in terms of pay, fresh grad lebih kurang sama jerk (Dr lebih sket)
Pasal Dr kena kejer gomen and salary+elaun lebih kurang 2.8 k.
Engineer, depends on your field. Civi ...


x semestinye beb..tgk company & how good is your motivation & skills..MNC ada yg bayar berbelas ribu utk fresh grad during training. Tu pun blum start keje lagiii...
bagi aku nak surpass rm8k per month in a MNC as an engineer doesnt take that long mcm doc tu reach that level. Even my mom 3 years in a MNC as an accountant pun dah lebih rm8k..come to think of it yg dia keje under the supervision of an engineer. So how much do u think was the engineer's paycheck?
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Post time 13-10-2006 06:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by red_violet at 8-10-2006 09:07 PM


i think u x brp phm ape yg i nk kasitau...the point is ape jer yg kite bt mesti ade risk...
like u say benda yg x bernyawa leh amik benda yg bernyawa....mcm bt bgnan sambil lewa la kn...
but  ...


mmg kepala x betol la kalu arkitek tu tanya batu-bata bila nak buat bangunan:hmm:
its true yg doc handle ethical issues regarding their patients..but engineers pun ada ethics kami sendiri.
x semua yg blh buat apa yg doc buat..thats true.
but same goes to the job prospect of an engineer..doc pun x tau hape & x blh buat apa.
fair enough?
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Post time 14-10-2006 06:55 PM | Show all posts
pharmacy 4eber & eber:love::love:
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Post time 15-10-2006 04:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by fireunicorn_85 at 13-10-2006 06:32 PM


x semestinye beb..tgk company & how good is your motivation & skills..MNC ada yg bayar berbelas ribu utk fresh grad during training. Tu pun blum start keje lagiii...
bagi aku nak surpa ...


Which MNC is  that? Is it in M'sa, Singapore, Taiwan or somewhere else?
I cakap pasal average..bukan the top 1% of the salary scale.
If yang top 1% tu, i know one GP yang income dia RM25,000 per month and his age is only 32 (of course dia ada clinic sendiri).

A freshgrad yang kejer dengan one of the highest paying MNC  pun reported to me dapat 3.5k (tu dah kira tinggi).
Berbelas-belas ribu mungkin kalau dia gi train kat US or UK or JAPAN...tapi if u factor the cost of living plus all the taxes, back to square one.
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Post time 18-10-2006 11:41 PM | Show all posts
yup, ada in malaysia..but of course work overseas.
what do u mean by top 1%?
how about the average pay of GPs in malaysia without taking into account having their own clinics?
its not fair when u compare fresh engineering grads with doctors with their own clinics/centres..how bout u compare with engineers yang ada firm atau company sendiri?
some of my fren's dad yg ada engineering company sendiri can even give their children rm200k each per month for 'duit poket'.
i dont think tax factor & the cost of living puts u back to square one..whats the point being stationed overseas then?
afterall, they have incentives & allowances..just like the expats living here in malaysia.
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:08 AM | Show all posts
i used to think, bila zaman sekolah dulu, engineer, doktor tu kira hebatla. then i work as a trainer. client terdiri dari doktor, engineer. ada doktor dtg cari aku pasal cholesterol n glucose tinggi. bukan seorang tp ramai gak. camna jd doktor tu? ada beberapa engineer yg minta tolong nak reduce weight but dont afford to pay mer.payment engineer rendah ke? bila tgk camni, i think im better. kerja cam doktor gak, cuma doktor ubat org time org sakit. aku ubat org time org belum sakit. im proud to be a trainer.
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:56 AM | Show all posts
the best career is the job that you want and love to do event with low payment....
kalo fresh graduate tu jgn harap la urg nak bagi gaji2 puluh2 ribu ...mana ade beb ...gaji manager pon average 6~7K je ...
.so sapa yg love deep pocket tu stakat kerja makan gaji susah la
at least you involve in oil n gas industri senang cite kerja field kerja office gaji murah gak or bukak bussiness sendiri....
tp kalo kerja oil n gas pon mmg la gaji mahal tp anda dibayar dengan apa kerja yg anda lakuan so paham2 la kalo gaji 70k tu kerja camne stakat tak tido 1 minggu tu steady ....or kerja kat tempat yg urg tanak gi macam kt angola ker nigeria ke ...
silap2 nyawa melayang makan peluru ....
so conclusion amik course yg anda minat ..
sanggup ke anda bekerja sepanjang hayat di bidang yg anda lansung tidak minat kerana semata2 mengejar gaji n glamour...
....daripada pengalaman selalunye jadi sampah ...n ade case yg bunuh diri sbb tensen...
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:04 PM | Show all posts
Byk lagi bidang lain yang hebat sebenarnya. Pada pendapat aku, apa2 bidang pun ada cabarannya. Aku tak rasa engineer,doctor & lawyer tu hebat sgt. Tapi businessman yang berjaya membina empayar perniagaan yang kukuh memang aku respect mcm owner Public Bank yang hanya bermula sbg clerk kat bank. Aku pulak grade dlm bidang perhotelan tapi kerja kat IT Dept. Camne tu????
Pelajaran hanya asas tapi bila bekerja pengalaman sgt penting.
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Post time 20-10-2006 11:36 AM | Show all posts
keciknyer hati aku baca post korang nih sebab degree aku tak se-gah kursus korunk. ada wat perubatan la, engineer le, arkitek le bla...bla...bla.. Aku Mass Comm jek.. erm.. ikutkan dari sudut qualification ramai orang tak pandang kursus aku ni. Pada diorang kacang jek nak apply masscomm. nak glamour jek lebih..

kecik hati tau.. sebab penat gak tau aku nak abiskan 5 tahun dip and degree aku ni. sama macam korang jugak kan!

pada aku bergantung pada minat: haha.. aku budak pure science gak mase skolah dulu tapi aku tak minat wat science and engineering. tetibek jek jdk budak mass comm. sama gak ngan adik aku dua orang. Sorang tu elok2 belajar Geomatic Science tetibe tukar perhotelan. adik aku sowang tu leklok jek duk wat matrik hayat and waiting 4 pharmacy course, tetibe berenti and wat TESL. tapi dia wat kat oversea le..

kesimpulannye.. tengok la minat kan.. push-push pun takde guna gak. dua2 orang adik aku tu asalnya keluarga push gak tapi tak sanggup tengok asik emo jek mase belajar.. hahahah..

neway, aku bangga ngan apa yang aku ada skang sebab gaji aku same jek ngan accountant, engineer, arkitek kat tempat aku keje nih (sume fresh graduate). huhu.. aku keje kat company engineering okies... peliknya dunia nih kan.. hahahaha
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Post time 20-10-2006 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by prodigy at 20-10-2006 11:36 AM
keciknyer hati aku baca post korang nih sebab degree aku tak se-gah kursus korunk. ada wat perubatan la, engineer le, arkitek le bla...bla...bla.. Aku Mass Comm jek.. erm.. ikutkan dari sudut quali ...


alhamdulillah..ok la tu~
masing2 minat & rezeki..:setuju:
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Post time 20-10-2006 07:53 PM | Show all posts
tengok minat la..jgn terpengaruh ngan orang..dek kerane tak minat...habis cite2 kite..kalau kite amik MAss Comm sekali pun kan..accounting ke..kalau kite rajin...jgn takut ade rezeki masing2..ni mesti terlalu pk pasal job ...keje melambak..cume pandai cari dan tak cari je..jgn memilih sangat
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Post time 23-10-2006 12:13 AM | Show all posts
let i said before ...paling penting minat ....jgn terpengaruh ngan propaganda dan hasutan2 suara2 yg akan membuatkan anda merana seumur hidup bekerja dalam bidang yg anda tidak minat ....kerjaya ni umpama berkawin ...bayangkan la kalo anda dipaksa berkahwin dengan urg yg anda tidak minat ...sedangkan anda mencintai urg lain ...so faham2 la ..bole mati beragan
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Post time 25-10-2006 11:08 AM | Show all posts
nasihat aku kan..ambiklah keje yg boleh pergi keluar masa keje..
jgn ambik keje yg kena menghadap komputer tiap2 hari dari pagi hingga petang..lps 5 tahun keje..bahu sakit gila..tiap2  2 bulan sekali kena pergi berurut..

dari pemerhatian aku laa...

keje engineer menarik  sbb ada kala nye kena pergi site or jumpa customer..takder lah duk ofis sepanjang masa..pastu..bila time perayaan spt chinese new year, hari raya...dpt hamper laa..vendor/contractor belanja laa.
kalau aku tau keje engineer begitu besh..ish..menyesal aku tak ambik engineering dulu dulu kala..
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Post time 25-10-2006 09:52 PM | Show all posts
errmmm.... tersenyum aku bila baca ada orang yang respect pada doktor...;)
tapi bila aku grad nanti aku harap perasaan dan sikap hormat-menghormati tu akan ada pada 2 pihak (between doctor and patient) doktor pun kena hormat patient gak...:hatdown:

Memang study medical ni susah dan aku bercakap melalui pengalaman.Even bila dah masuk medical school pun tak semestinya akan keluar sebagai doktor. Ada jugak yang terkandas di tengah jalan.Very terrify when thought about that. NGERI...
Namun tidak pula aku menidakkan course yang lain. accounting,engineering,law,ect. masing2 ada halangan dan dugaan tersendiri.setiap ilmu atas muka bumi ni pasti ada kegunaannya. tinggal lagi kita untuk menilai dan menhargainya.. tak gitu..

The knowledge of medicine is a science,
but the practise of medicine is an art.
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Post time 26-10-2006 01:26 AM | Show all posts
apesal org melayu suka cakap medic tu susah?
sumer pelajaran mmg ler susah kalau tak study continuously..

harus cakap.. tak susah kalau study...

kalau tak study..usah kan ambik medic...ambik matrikulasi pun..kena repeat..itu ler penangan kalau tak study..

kalau study continuously... tawakal dan doa dan hormat/baik dgn parents..insyallah..

aku tak suka betol..org melayu ckp kat org melayu lain ..sst course tu SUSAH..

note : aku mmg tak ambik medic. tapi, adik aku ambik. adik aku tu relex ajek...takder lah mengeluh susah ke benda ke..
adik aku tu..nak masuk housemanship.. bukan belajar kat sini la..

[ Last edited by  Hana at 26-10-2006 01:35 AM ]
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