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Aku Nak Bersalin C-Sect, Somi Lak Suh Bersalin Normal.. Uang Menjadi Puncanya..
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Reply 181# Hana
kalau ambik epidural, tak sakit. betul tak tipu.
yang benar,
pengedar epidural.
nak beli epidural tak
betul3x. Macam magic. The moment masuk jer ubat....ZASSSSS hilang sakit. This is provided the anesth did well in inserting the needle la....pastu masuk jer epi, i boleh berlawak2 dengan hubby i lagi. |
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Reply Hana
betul3x. Macam magic. The moment masuk jer ubat....ZASSSSS hilang sakit. T ...
cn7 Post at 2-2-2011 17:32 
aku lak nak tertdo sebb malam semalam aku tak dpt tdo dgn tenang..(aku tak tahu itu sakit pengecutan rahim. ingatkan sakit perut luar biasa)
aku relex ajer. baring2. pastu mengelamun.. |
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aku bersalin c-zer anak sulung.....emergency case. sempat la rasa sakit nak bersalin normal ....duk ...
tucenmeow Post at 2-2-2011 15:53 
next delivery sengaja memilih bersalin cser dgn alasan tak sanggup sakit ek.
dah tahu ke belum rahim akan terjejas bila guna kaedah ni?
rahim terjejas = b***** suami kurang nikmat bila bersetubuh. 
kalau tanya org laki, diorang pentingkan yg mana.. pentingkan lubang ke yg kat dalam?
jawapan: yg kat dalam |
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Reply 183# Hana
tidor nak regaine the energy untuk push....boleh tido tu kira bagus la...i dulu tak sabar nak bagi baby kuar |
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Reply 184# wanitajelita
laki, diorang pentingkan yg mana.. pentingkan lubang ke yg kat dalam?
jawapan: yg kat dalam
Ha, talking about this kan, i pun baru sedar all the misconception about that tau... i mean, i always dengar that women punya V akan longgar due to the birth itself, and how Kegel can help to overcome that. Then i selalu dengar org OPTED for c-sect sebab tak nak 'hilang nikmat' due to the normal delivery...sehinggalah, last 2 weeks, bila i went to visit a relative yang baru bersalin. i pity this sedara la, dia bersalin normal, tapi ada complication. The doctor lambat buat episiotomy, so dia punya koyakan tu, dari vagina habis terus ke anus. Doktor tu siap cakap lagi "i'm so sorry, dia punya tear sudah habislah".
then bila i balik, i cakap dengan my mum. Sian kat dia kan umi, koyak habis. Sure kena pantang teruk2 nak bagi ketat balik. pasni if dia on dengan suami dia, tak ketat la ek".
then my mum cakap "eh, mana ada. yang tu tak der kena mengena dengan koyakan kat situ. Yang itu kat dalam2. Sedap ke tak sedap tu 3-4 inches ke dalam lagi. This one tak affected derrrrr".
then i terkejut la. i cakap, "la ye ker, tak tau pun. all this while i tot that tear yang akan affect the S*X. Sebab orang kita suka benar tanya "berapa banyak jahitan, indicating that the more jahitan you have, the bigger the size of the baby's head, which means besarla lubangnya".
then my mum cakap, "you in health line pun tak tau? They dont teach this in class ker?
then i jokingly replied "you never taught me about the birds and the bees, you expect they will teach this in class? function wise etc tu ada la".
Patutla, when i accompanied my mum to see her O&G where she was scheduled to remove her endometrium, she asked me to go outside for a while, because she has "a personal question to ask".
bila balik i tanya my mum what she asked, then dia tersipu2 tapi bagitahu jugakla "i asked the doctor if by removing my endometrium will affect my 'relationship' with ayah ke tak.
then i asked "what did the doctor reply?"
she said "he didnt give me a straight forward answer, but he said, just look at the bright side. with no menses, you can have it anytime you want, no 1 week break whatsoever"....
so, when you mention this wanitajelita, baru la i teringat kisah ni.... |
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Salam,
Sy exp bsalin normal 2x. y ke-3 ni pun due next month insyaallah nk normal gk. lg tkt nk bsalin c-set dr normal. just klu ikut konsep kete, klu dh potong pastu smbg blk pakai lame pun x sedap. mcm tu la ngan bdn kite. nk idup brp lame. tp klu servis ikut ms ikut salurannye, insyaallah kete x meragam. cam tu la rs ngan bdn kite. time muda mungkin x rase kut. dh tua2 nanti terase gk sbb bdn dh kurg energy. so sy anggap mcm tu la klu c-set ni.
Tp klu c-set ni nk jg susah. Ade mbr pantang smpi 1 thn klu nk btl2 baik luar dlm. tp dia pun ank kt kg mak bpk jage. so x bligat2 ngan ank, so bile next baby pun pilih c-set wlaupun y 1st tu mmg sbb jln x bukak. Then lg satu dia ckp x nk ganggu y kt bwh dh alang2 skali kuar kut tingkap ni. So mane prefer jaga kepuasan si somi @ jg diri sendiri, klu dpt buat pilihan la. Tp ape pun klu dpt restu drp somi baik normal @ c-set ni insyaallah sume slamat.
Pilih spital private ke gomen ni pd sy y mbezakn ialah after delivery tu. Klu bby x de problem ok la bsalin kt private ni. Tup2 ank ade G6PD, kene jaundice lame la kene thn kt wad. Normal org y salin kt private mintak tkr ke gomen sbb x thn chargenye. Bsalin c-set dh 6K, ank br seminggu kt wad bil dh cecah 10K. klu kes2 mcm tu mau sbln dok wad. Bile nk cr wad kosong tuk bby kdg2 penuh. Y cian bby la. kene trf sane sini. ade gk mbr ank kt nursery asik msk wad sbb masalah paru2. bile tanye bsalin mane dulu, gomen ke private bg tau bsalin kt private. Klu kt gomen diorg akan chk detail pasal ni. bukan cukup berak kencing aje lps bsalin. even ank no.2 x kronik pun kene thn kt wad NICU tu n smpi sthn kene g chk-up. so spital private ni layan mak ok la. bab ank kurg skit pd sy. ank letak dlm bilik bayi. ade ank sedara mjerit2 kt dlm bilik tu x de sape nk layan sbb maknye dh pengsan lps operate. pd hal bb dok nangis smpi x de sore sbb lehernye tkehel ms diorg tarik kluar. tau pun lps g chk kt spital gomen. e2pun dh lps sthn >, susah nk btlkn blk. kpala kehel, sore cam nk hilang n ade deria y x brp nk fungsi sbb kehel tarik urat. mane ade diorg bg tau klu dh slh. tp ape pun mungkin nasib la kan.
Just sekadar pandangan, nk pilih spital mesti ade sedia wad NICU y lengkap. Klu x kesian kt ank klu jd ape2. HUKM tu ok dh tu.
Bab duit belanja tu ms blm beranak mmg pakai x byk. nk2 sume bil2 kete umah somi y byr. Bile dh ade ank byk pakainye. Brg bb mahal2. Nk ade umah sendiri lg y zmn millenium ni harga pun leh thn. sume bende kene ambil kira dr skrg.
Mcm org cina prefer bsalin kut tingkap sbb diorgnye kulit x kenyal mcm org Melayu/India. Diorg x mkn pedas so kulit x kenyal n mudah rabak balik lps jahit. Ade sedara x mkn pedas ms ank 1st, smpi 3x jahit kt bwh tu. Dgr pun ngeri.
Mane ade ibu mengandung x de kejang2 langsung. Normal la tu, sume sbb kurg kalsium aje. Bb dh tarik. So opt nk c-set sbb ni x logic. Bab drh tinggi mmg susah nk ckp time pregnant ni mcm2 leh blaku. Tp klu tgh naik pun bukannye leh bedah terus pun nanti memancut drh plak. Ape pun amalkn surah2 ms mengandung plus al-waqiah tuk ketenangan. X de la mudah gemuruh. Blh juga amlkn mkn madu khaula, insyaallah bkesan. X de masalah drh tinggi @ rendah, kencing pun x de kotor & obesity pun tkawal.
Slamat mengandung…. |
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Reply 186# cn7
ade satu dr kat apsh, dia takkan buat episiotomy kalau normal birth, sbb dia ckp normal tear lagi cepat sembuh compare to epi.
my fren yg lahir babby 4kg pun tak buat epi...
ni satu lagi myth about giving birth, lahir kut tingkap anu tak rosak |
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Reply 188# misy
ideally, i pun tak nak episiotomy. I wrote that in my brith plan jugak. Tapi my gynae kata dia terpaksa buat sikit since first delivery..awal2 tu horror jugak bila i tengok dalam mirror, masa still swollen & everything, sebab i mintak my hubby tolong sapukan minyak...tapi my hubby kata, ok jer... i jer yang terlebih2 concern.  |
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dah tahu ke belum rahim akan terjejas bila guna kaedah ni?
rahim terjejas = b***** suami kurang nikmat bila bersetubuh.
wanitajelita Post at 4-2-2011 20:12 
cuba terangkan sikit tak, camne csect bleh effect rahim..???
mmg betul kepuasan seksual (pd lelaki) tu bergantung pd vaginal muscle/pelvic floor yg menghasilkan aktiviti kemutan...bukan pd bukaan vagina (yg tmpt doktor jahit lepas bersalin tu). wpun ada myth yg kata.."alah suruh doktor/nurse jahit rapat2 lepas bersalin". jahit rapat camne pun..kalau otot vagina tak kuat..itulah tak dikatakan..alignment sudah lari..
pengecutan rahim selepas bersalin berlaku selepas plasenta dikeluarkan...bilamana salur darah yg terbuka di dalam rahim akan ditutup semasa pengecutan rahim. zaman ni, doktor akan suntik drug spy ia berlaku dengan lebih cepat untuk mengelakkan kes tumpah darah. sebab tu, bersalin normal ataupun csect, as the placenta being removed..pengecutan rahim tetap akan berlaku.
jadi, aku tidak nampak kaitan rahim/uterus dgn pelvic floor/vaginal muscle...(yg mempengaruhi kpuasan seksual psgn) kerana kekuatan otot vagina takde kene mengena dgn hormon. nk kuatkannya..kene exercise byk2..dan semakin kita tua..otot tu sendiri akan jadi lemah, seterusnya menyebabkan masalah kawalan kencing.
begitu juga dgn kes orang yang buang rahim. org yg buang rahim/uterus...tp tak buang ovari, mereka masih ada hormon regulation yang normal. masih ada libido, dan kemampuan melakukan hubungan seksual spt biasa. cumanya, tiada lg menses.. |
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Reply 190# bezita60
i pun tak boleh comprehend tak mana 'idealogi' ni datang. First time i dengar from my mum. I tak tahu la if to bidan dia ker yang bagi tips2 macam ni, i'm not sure.
Berapa banyak produk kesihatan ada kat Malaysia just to 'ketat'kan tu la, ketat kan ni la....so there must be a mechanism jugak.
Maybe wanitajelita can explain.
But i ada google jugakla, so what i can find :
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists admits to vaginal shortening at hysterectomy in its 1999 pamphlet Understanding Hysterectomy. It states clearly that if the hysterectomy procedure requires vaginal shortening, concurrent with the removal of the cervix, deep thrusting with intercourse may become painful. helps to support the pelvic floor structures; for example, it will help prevent the bladder from prolapsing, or becoming displaced and/or distended. It can act as a barrier for infection and provides some vaginal lubrication. If a woman retains her cervix, her vaginal integrity is more likely to remain stable.
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Reply 191# cn7
Does mode of delivery affect sexual functioning of the man partner?Gungor S, Baser I, Ceyhan T, Karasahin E, Kilic S. Gulhane Military Medical Academy, School of Medicine-Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Etlik-Ankara, Turkey. sgungor@gata.edu.tr Abstract
INTRODUCTION: Recent surveys showed that the major reasons for avoiding vaginal delivery were the fear of childbirth and the concern for postpartum sexual health. Although sexual dysfunction is a disorder that affects a couple rather than an individual, all studies investigating the relationship between the mode of delivery and sexual problems have been conducted only in cohorts of women.
AIM: To determine the effect of mode of delivery on quality of sexual relations and sexual functioning of men by using the Golombock-Rust Inventory of Sexual Satisfaction (GRISS).
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Mean score of sexual function and prevalence of sexual dysfunction in overall and specific areas of the GRISS were compared among the three groups.
METHODS: A total of 107 men accompanying their wives in outpatient clinics of obstetrics and gynecology met inclusion/exclusion criteria. Three groups of men were defined; men whose partners had: (i) "elective cesarean delivery" (N = 21; mean age 32.2 +/- 3.8 years); (ii) "vaginal delivery with mediolateral episiotomy" (N = 36; mean age 31.4 +/- 4.5 years); and (iii) "not given birth" (N = 50; mean age 28.8 +/- 4.0 years).
RESULTS: Mean overall sexual function score (normal value < 25 points) was 20.5 +/- 8.2 in the elective caesarean group, 19.3 +/- 6.5 in the vaginal delivery group, and 18.8 +/- 9.3 in the nulliparae group (P = 0.731). Prevalence of sexual dysfunction in men was 28.6% in the elective caesarean group, 19.4% in the vaginal delivery group, and 30.0% in the nulliparae group (P = 0.526).
CONCLUSION: Overall sexual function of men was not affected by their partner's parity and mode of delivery. An elective cesarean section simply because of concerns about sexual function would not provide additional benefit to men, and could deny women a possible vaginal delivery, which is generally assumed to be safer than cesarean section.
PMID: 17451485 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] |
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ehh..on second thought can, i think kita dah side track jauh sangat ni...
i believe dah ada thread pasal pro & cons pasal normal/c-sect delivery ni kan?
if menjawab essay, dah kira lari topik ni...
sapa ada link thread yang normal/c-sect delivery nih? |
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Reply 189# cn7
uh beraninye tgk tpt jahit ...
ai penakut...kalau czer pun tak berani nak tgk |
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wahh.. dah akhir2 thread ni mcm menarik je topik perbualan, yang walaupun lari jauh drpd topik asal, tp sangat2 informative.. like it!!
nape la cik TT ni opt untuk csect... haha.. ni mesti kes nak skip sakit masa contraction ni..
salah sungguh nak skip sakit beranak dgn c-sect..
aku penah buat operation yg tempat yg potong sama mcm c-sect. aku boleh jamin masa procedure potong memotong tu tak sakit. tp aku lg boleh jamin, ko akan menderita sebaik aje lepas bius tu abes.. penderitaan tu takkan pulih seminggu dua je, even setahun after pun still bleh rasa sakit lg..
aku masih lg penakut dgn sakit.. tp keinginan nak ada anak tu memang awal2 dah ada dalam diri.. bulan 5 ni kawin, kalo bleh bulan 5 gak nak get pregnant. takut mmg takut, tp keinginan nak ada baby dgn si suami lg memuncak2. epidural would be my priority.. manakala normal delivery is my 2nd & last option. takmo la c-sect... masih terasa lg sakit kat tempat potong tu..
kenapa aku berani amik epidural.. becoz aku pernah ada pengalaman dengan spinal anesthetic. n from what i know, procedure spinal dgn epidural ni sama je.. maybe yg membezakan adalah jarum.. masa buat spinal dulu, aku takut mcm org giler gak sbb rasa2 mcm sakit je injection kt tulang rusuk.. tp masa doctor cucuk, langsung tak sakit pun.. sedar2 dah siap... sumpah! sakit lg cucuk drip utk IV tu! so hopefully pengalaman epidural nanti wud be as smooth as that..
correct me if i'm wrong, kalo nak c-sect tu still kena cucuk epidural gak kan? |
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Reply 194# misy
berani lah jugak, sebab dah biasa tengok yang lagi dasyat...kata keje hospital. Kiranya tengok tempat jahitan tu pun masih lalu nak melantak nasik lagi la...
masa time student dulu, dapatla tengok orang bersalin. Masa tu, this kakak umur dalam awal 20-an, anak pertama. Both laki bini askar. Boleh Staff nurse tu buat lawak, Ok, tuan askar, bagi arahan kat isteri you suruh meneran. pastu time meneran, dan2 kuar isi isi lain gak. Tapi kitorang buat muka maintain la time tu...takkan nak aibkan kakak tu pulak. Balik dari labour room tu, masing2 call mak masing2. Suma insaf. Ada yang jenis sensitif, tu melalak lalak menangis. Banyak dosa kat mak kut...hehehehe |
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Reply 195# sevenoctober
correct me if i'm wrong, kalo nak c-sect tu still kena cucuk epidural gak kan?
if c-sect, dia bagi you option, you nak GA (general anesth) or LA (local anesth). sapa yang berani & agak2 nak tengok perut kena belah (and ada yang opt for LA supaya tak miss the moments where anak dia dikeluarkan), amik LA. So dia akan numbkan area perut ke bawah.
if those yang tak berani, dia bagi GA. Yang ni you memang kong terus. Sedar2 dah ada anak jer.
the drug yang they used for the GA & LA, ada banyak jenis. Depends on the allergic history of the patient etc.
tapi memang, epidural is one of the best created drug in the world. |
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Reply 197# cn7
so desu ne..
untung la kalo still ada option utk GA tu..
hehe.. tp mcm rugi moment of life je kalo skip tgk baby tu keluar drpd perut..
apa2 pun, i'll go for epidural..
ooh cepat la kawin, nak anak!!!! |
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so hopefully pengalaman epidural nanti wud be as smooth as that..
sevenoctober Post at 7-2-2011 16:46
nasihat - jgn tgk jarum ye..nanti tangan berketar2/gigil. aku la tu. tapi, tak sakitlah. sakit lagi sakit pengecutan rahim tu. |
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Post time 2-2-2011 04:47 PM
nak makan pun takder mood. 
