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Reply #235 saden's post
hmm that was interesting ...when you said banyak perintah Allah yg turun against all logic....hmm?
well actually ia logic or either to serve to protect the believers lah , sometimes we never know now but later we 'd discover what He says is indeed correct. |
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Reply #232 saden's post
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eh jap jap when i said my first class i bukan as a lecturer tau tapi as student not too long ago laaaa..seba i notice ada ambiguity kat situ....wakakakak |
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Reply #229 blastoff's post and hmm this is interesting
tapi kan yang fasicinated ialah in huan body yg mobilise all the working / mechanism ialah a;ll these molecules in the form of hormones, receptors in the cell membranes etc etc...
lagi satu pasal perceived darkness...
kat dalam gelap kita tak dapat tengok benda kan?
like kita masuk bilik gelap then kita tak nampak TAPI beberapa ketika / saat lepas tu kita dapat jugak lihat benda kan ? perasan tak
okay ni adalah mekanisme G - protein coupled receptor called rhodopsin
bacalah.. interesting i tak ingat dah tinggal 10 tahun lepas....tapi apa yg G- receptor ni buat kat sel retina kat mata kta ialah bila dalam gelap dia actiovate and buatkan cell retina tu dalam keadaan hyperpolarising state...so bila jadiu macam tu cells tetap juga firing impulses suapya dapat lihat ....
ni sungguh lupa .... |
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oh lagi satu
awat Nikola Tesla being highly regarded sangat dalam physics or engineering community rather than Einstein?
apa pendapat ? |
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okay i nalk gi siap kerja and tec tec |
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Reply #238 mbhcsf's post
done as proposed...happy discussing... |
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for yor information ....
Oh by the way I have requested that this thread being moved to Science Technology And MAths ad stuffs. I have also requested that both of you to be granted as much credit as possible.
So i told Mod Agul about this and he conferred with Seribulan.
Should both of you have any problems with this then you could contact the mod. |
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dear mod
sapa mod this board?
boleh saya mohon digest thread ni? |
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Originally posted by mbhcsf at 3-2-2009 09:47 PM 
so from fuzzy to AI and what would be the next generation ?
AI pun depa masih teraba - raba |
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Originally posted by saden at 3-2-2009 11:54 PM 
what i meant with 'our ability to know' is our ability to know with 100% certainty...maksudnya zero uncertainty la, ataupun zero measurement error. ni yg pakcik heisenberg kata takleh ni. principle ni puts a limit to the accuracy of any measurement.
Ironik kan , walaupun kajian2 sains are plagued with experiments that produce uncertain results due to the observer effect , tapi masih ramai saintist barat yang sanggup tolak kewujudan Tuhan sebagai uncertain , kajian sains yang uncertain depa boleh terima pulak !  Double standard betul la depa ni kan 
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Observer effect
In experimental research, the term observer effect (also see Hawthorne effect) refers to changes that the act of observing will make on the phenomenon being observed. It has application in many fields of scientific inquiry, and may refer specifically to:
In information technology, the observer effect is the potential impact of the act of observing a process output while the process is running. For example: if a process uses a log file to record its progress, the process could slow. Furthermore, the act of viewing the file while the process is running could cause an I/O error in the process, which could, in turn, cause it to stop.
Another example would be observing the performance of a CPU by running both the observed and observing programs on the same CPU, which will lead to inaccurate results because the observer program itself affects the CPU performance (modern, heavily cached and pipelined CPUs are particularly affected by this kind of observation).
Observing (or rather, debugging) a running program by modifying its source code (such as adding extra output or generating log files) or by running it in a debugger may sometimes cause certain bugs to diminish or change their behavior, creating extra difficulty for the person trying to isolate the bug (see Heisenbug).
In physics, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on the phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. This effect can be observed in many domains of physics.
Reactivity is a phenomenon that occurs when individuals alter their performance or behavior due to the awareness that they are being observed.[1] The change may be positive or negative, and depends on the situation. It is a significant threat to a research study's internal validity and is typically controlled for using blind experiment designs.
There are several forms of reactivity. The Hawthorne effect occurs when research study participants know they are being studied and alter their performance because of the attention they receive from the experimenters. The John Henry effect, a specific form of Hawthorne effect, occurs when the participants in the control group alter their behavior out of awareness that they are in the control group.
Reactivity is not limited to changes in behavior in relation to being merely observed; it can also refer to situations where individuals alter their behavior to conform to the expectations of the observer. An experimenter effect occurs when the experimenters subtly communicate their expectations to the participants, who alter their behavior to conform to these expectations. The Pygmalion effect occurs when students alter their behavior to meet teacher expectations. Both experimenter effects and Pygmalion effects can be caused by bias and stereotyping, as demonstrated by studies involving stereotype threat.
It is sometimes conflated with:
[ Last edited by blastoff at 4-2-2009 09:26 AM ] |
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Originally posted by saden at 4-2-2009 12:13 AM
tu lah..tak tau la mana silapnya, dan macamana nak stimulate otak dia supaya berfikir, bukannya memuntahkan fakta.
selain dari didikan mengenai the art of thinking and reasoning sejak kecil , apa yang lebih penting adalah condition jiwa mereka tu , apa yang mereka provide pada jiwa mereka sebagai sustenance agar ia sihat, lalu bila jiwa sihat maka jiwa tu akan dapat mengaktifkan minda mereka secara tak langsung la kan .
Day in day out asyik dengar lagu cinta, nonton drama cinta , baca majalah artis pujaan bercinta , kemudian mula la ada yang nak experiment input cinta tu semua dengan cara pi merendek dengan marka kat tempat sunyi , kalau tak buat gitu pun asyik mengelamun tak sudah la dalam kelas , fikiran menerawang ke alam cinta cuma badan aje ada kat bilik kuliah , kalau itu aje makanan jiwa mereka maka memang stunted langsung la perkembangan otak depa tu .. cinta itu buta wakakaka memang buta ilmu sungguh pun jadinya
[ Last edited by blastoff at 4-2-2009 09:42 AM ] |
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Originally posted by saden at 4-2-2009 12:31 AM
there's a time and place for application. anyway, bukanlah teori sangat yg nak diajar, tapi cara berfikir berstruktur. ni yg paling payah. paling payah nak suruh budak ni sit back and look at himself thinking. ni basically nak suruh budak tu bayangkan ada 2 diri dia, satu tgh berfikir, dan satu lagi perhati dan follow pemikiran diri yg tadi. yg memerhati ni cuba cari mana kesilapan pada pemikiran diri yg tgh berfikir tu...banyak tempat boleh silap..pada assumption, pada definition, pada mutual exclusion, pada contradiction..macam2.
dia tengah dok concentrate pada keasyikan alam cinta la weyy lebih syahdu mahdu feeling-feeling gittew sambil belajar pun kena dengar lagu cinta baru boleh concentrate , depan meja dalam bilik mesti nak pasang lagu baru ada motivasi nak siapkan assignment , so you kena pasang lagu cinta kat depa dalam kelas , dan you kena seli kan dengan cerita cinta baru mata depa terbeliak tak ngantuk dan minda depa fokus tak serabut masuk ke tidak ilmu belakang kira janji otak tak serabut ... .depa tak sedar bahwa otak depa jadi serabut bila berdepan dengan ilmu tu adalah tanda/symptom jiwa depa yang tengah merana kerana di sajikan dengan segala "makanan" yang haprak kualitinya   anak bangsa ku 
[ Last edited by blastoff at 4-2-2009 10:00 AM ] |
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duduk dekat bod ni tak la rasa bersalah sangat menerawang merata hala perbincangan ni , ok wa sambung kemudian ....more input input input |
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Originally posted by saden at 4-2-2009 12:42 AM 
kalau ikut maksud satu hadis tu, orang C ni dipanggil org yg ajaib iman dia...pasal dia beriman walaupun tanpa bukti dan tanpa melihat nabi.. iman dia langsung tak goyah atau was-was.
contoh macam saidina abu bakar masa israk mikraj. abu sufian (masa tu belum islam) cuba waswaskan saidina abu bakar dgn menceritakan kisah tak logik orang pergi balik dari mekah ke baitulmaqdis dalam satu malam. abu bakar cakap, kalau ni pasal nabi Muhammad (masa tu saidina abu bakar belum tahu lagi nabi israk mikraj malam tadi), aku percaya benda ni berlaku.
macam yang you sebut untuk tak lihat pada contents tapi focus pada structure , maka itulah yang Abu Bakar buat pun , bukan contents peristiwa israk mikraj yang dia focuskan , tapi pada keseluruhan struktur mesej yang di bawa oleh Rasulullah sepanjang dakwah Rasulullah , lalu dia guna logic yang terdapat pada keseluruhan mesej yang di bawa oleh Rasulullah untuk mengesahkan kejadian israk mikraj tu .
Dalam fizik ada kaitan dengan apa tu ? ...definasi mass , yang kena rely kat perkara lain baru boleh ukur mass , baru boleh tahu mass tu secara tepat ukurannya kan . Jadi nak ukur kebenaran israk mikraj kena lihat pada keseluruhan logic yang terdapat dalam ajaran yang di bawa oleh Rasulullah la, baru boleh faham kenapa tak dak apa yang pelik dan mustahil pun pada segala kejadian yang berlaku dalam israk mikraj nih, baru kebenaran israk mikraj dapat di ukur  .....
Lagi satu , kan Rasulullah ketika hidup nya Allah kurniakan dia dengan banyak mukjizat yang pelik-pelik yang manusia biasa tak boleh buat , yang di witness sendiri oleh para sahabat contoh macam bulan terbelah dua tu, bukan satu tu aja mukjizat tapi bertimbun lagi yang lain pe ! , ingat saja ka Allah bagi kat Rasulullah mukjizat pelik-pelik tu salah satu sebab nya untuk menguatkan keimanan para sahabat dan sesiapa saja yang witness kejadian tu dengan mata kepala la kan .
Kita sekarang , walau pun tak boleh tengok dengan mata kepala segala mukjizat yang Nabi performed tu semua , tapi kan Quran dan Hadis ada depan kita , maka itu la mukjizat yang kita boleh tengok dengan mata kepala kita, segala keajaiban sains yang terdapat dalam nya tu lah mukjizat yang kita boleh saksikan la ni tu . Para sahabat dan kita sama aja , mereka manusia macam kita juga , yang perlukan bukti untuk kuat iman, dan bukti boleh mai dalam berbagai bentuk kan , yang penting minda kena peka sentiasa pada segala bukti tu .
[ Last edited by blastoff at 4-2-2009 11:06 AM ] |
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Originally posted by blastoff at 4-2-2009 08:38 AM
I don't think creating the fuzzy logic would be a suitable word for it , lebih kepada applying a fuzzy logic system that's flawless based on a comprehensive understanding of the law of nature ...
would you like to explain a little bit more on those italics words?
Rasanyer ish ..kita tak boleh lagi kot dapat total comprehension on the law of nature and by the mentioning of the word FLAWLESS kat situ - well actually .. i am bit vague there...would you like to reiterate that statemnet sikit ker, please ?( merah muka dia ni aah tak faham ...ekekkek) |
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Reply #258 blastoff's post
actually kan by the mentioning of the word Night Journey ni Isra' & Mikraj ni , iam just thinking of how fast is that entity kan? yg Prophet Muhammad SAW rode on his way up there?
My father said it has something to do with changing of "dimension" . Baginda needs to transgress the dimension actually in order to catch up with the Timing / temporal dimension in human world . |
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Category: Belia & Informasi
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Post time 4-2-2009 06:19 AM
Post time 4-2-2009 07:23 AM
