Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA

HangPC2

Originally posted by Robotech at 4-5-2007 03:31 PM
Ehem,imej Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA:



Amacam ... cun gak ...

Cun

Nick_Perelman

When this Raptorsky will enter the service? By 2050?

HangPC2

F-22 rasa tercabar juga akhirnya....

Robotech

When this Raptorsky will enter the service? By 2050?

The Ruskies remained optimistic that the prototype will flew in 2012.

I guess, the production model will make its debut as early as 2020.

mentosonline

Unless the ruskies get funding from a big sugar daddy like China, the project's unlikely to take off.
Look at how much the US is paying for F-22 and JSF, over US$100 billion.
Unless the Russkies concentrate all their oil money they're not gonna be able to fund it themselves.
Anyway, the state of the Russian military is such that it would be far, far more practical to develop cost-effective models for airforce, navy and army.

IceMallet

Bukan ker PakFa ni dah jadik joint-venture antara Russia dan India? Seems to me they already have the necessary funding

mentosonline

Given that Stealth aircraft need very careful maintenance, and russkie fighter jets have that notorious habit of breaking down every so often, the maintenance troops will be kept busy. Don't forget the quality of precision engineering in Stealth technology is needed to be very high.

Robotech

Well, all we've to do is wait for the prototype to fly in 2012.

Of course, if it generated enough interests, I think China & India will contribute the bucks.

PAKFA is the only Eastern answer to F-22 Raptor & JSF Lightning.

mentosonline

That's true.

But I think it will take longer than 2012 still.
Don't forget, this is the Russia's first serious try at making operational stealth technology for mass production.
Unless they use spies.
Still, looking at the time frame of development for the JSF and taking into account the technology provided from the F-22, I'm looking at a prototype flying at around 2016-2018, and operational service by late 2020s.
But yes, it is theoretically possible (if resources are fully concentrated) to get it into operational service by 2020, or even earlier, but then research in other fields like ships and tanks will have to be neglected.

awangmamat

Don't forget Venezuela and Iran ...

mentosonline

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran contributed to PAK-FA, but as for Venezuela I have my doubts. They have enough problems of their own, and they lack the cold hard cash.

alphawolf

One question...should war ever broke out between users of F/A-22 and PAK-FA; assuming both have the same stealth capabilities....how would they engage?

reinloch

Dogfight

HangPC2

Originally posted by reinloch at 10-5-2007 09:57 AM
Dogfight

itu nak tahu hasilnya

alphawolf

Tapi macamana nak start kalau tak tau pesawatnya kat mana?

mmc

gunalah eyeball mk 1

mentosonline

IR sensors?
Either that or maybe both sides play humzi wait  forthe other side to on radar.
But then again the Yanks have a tremendous advantage in EW and radar technology.
Especially the radar, and the F22 has the best radar in the world, which is LPI and has the best detection ranges.

HangPC2

mentosonline

I thought the T-50 has been taken up by the South Korea T-50 Golden Eagle training jet?
Maybe this project is funded by PRC so they were told to disregard copyright

Just joking, no offense.

HangPC2

Russia's fifth generation combat aircraft to fly by late 2008-Ivanov-1

MOSCOW, May 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's fifth generation fighter will take to the skies by the end of 2008, a first deputy prime minister said Tuesday at a session of a government military commission.

"We are nearing the end of research and development work, and Mikhail [Pogosyan, the head of Sukhoi aircraft maker] confirmed that the first plane will make its maiden flight in late 2008," Sergei Ivanov said.

Ivanov, who oversees industrial development and is seen as a candidate to succeed President Vladimir Putin in elections next spring, said the new fighter will become the mainstay of Russian frontline aviation in the 21st century.

The minister said the new multirole fighter, developed by Sukhoi design bureau, will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets.

"The development of a new generation aircraft will certainly boost the authority and competitiveness of the Russian defense industry on global markets," Ivanov said.

A provisional configuration of Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA.