[tvN/Netflix] Vincenzo - Song Joong Ki, Jeon Yeo Bin, Ok Taecyeon

xyla73

Rahah replied at 21-2-2021 08:11 PM
Kan uols... Mujur bukan iols sorang yang perasan acting dia tu... entahlah macam awkward semacam j ...

Maybe watak camni x sesuai utk dia...iols tgk dia kat be melodramatic tu ok je...part ni memang agak disappointed jugak...sebab pasal acting ni memang iols ambik berat sgt kalau tgk satu2 cerita tu...rupa biasa2 pun xpe as long as boleh deliver...iols dah pernah pun drop drama sbb heroin cannot deliver...

xyla73

Kenapa kat mana2 iols tgk ramai kritik song joong ki punya italian pronunciation? What do they expect? Kita pun sedia maklum kan korean have difficulties in pronouncing foreign language words? jgnkan italian, English pun dorg struggle nak pronounce except a few of them yg ada experience duduk kat overseas...so to me tu bukanlah masalah besar sgt walaupun memang sepatutnya watak Vincenzo tu fluent in that language...

Rahah

xyla73 replied at 21-2-2021 08:28 PM
Maybe watak camni x sesuai utk dia...iols tgk dia kat be melodramatic tu ok je...part ni memang ag ...

Yup... rupa tak kisah sangat... iols tak pernah tengok dia berlakon... so iols expect ada talent la kalau watak macam ni... lagipun dia heroin kot...

Rahah

xyla73 replied at 21-2-2021 08:44 PM
Kenapa kat mana2 iols tgk ramai kritik song joong ki punya italian pronunciation? What do they expec ...

Both knetz & i-fan ke?
Susah kot kalau nak pronounce bahasa belah2 italy, sepanyol sana... lagipun joongki ni agaknya sempat belajar berapa bulan je...

Nak fluent suruh yeo teo jadi hero tapi bahasa German la...

xyla73

Rahah replied at 21-2-2021 09:05 PM
Both knetz & i-fan ke?
Susah kot kalau nak pronounce bahasa belah2 italy, sepanyol sana... lagip ...

I-fans ler...kat forum soompi pun ada...
Faham2lah dah memang majoriti korean tak boleh cakap bahasa lain...
Tau tak nak fluent dlm satu2 bahasa tu kena ambik masa...memang joong ki ada belajar sikit bahasa Itali sblm shooting citer ni tapi manalah cukup...

lonso

iols expect more form sjk.. huwaaaaaa.. knp dia x dpt nak capai dark comical ni... huwaaa

lonso

mbhcsf replied at 21-2-2021 01:07 PM
hmm..i dah tengok yg ada subtitles
well for the pilot
i tak tahu nak kata apa exactly  bila tengo ...

pasal verbal tu iols setuju.. italia nikan loud n kalau ckp sekali dgn tangan2 n ekspresi tu..dgn mata2 sekali

mbhcsf

lonso replied at 21-2-2021 09:38 PM
pasal verbal tu iols setuju.. italia nikan loud n kalau ckp sekali dgn tangan2 n ekspresi tu..dgn  ...

yes i have italian friends and spanish  yes - depa kalau expressive tu adehhhhhh memang so cute pulak bila tengok Vincenzo cursing lepas kena rompak  kat bus  stop , tak macam cursing pun hahaha

hahahaahha


tapi tak pelah the fact that he speaks in italian , bukan non native okayla i puji

alaa KJH tu pun krik krik je  enunciating english phrases tapi konon UKcitizen dalam citer tu ( tengok scene dia jalan waktu mm dengan seo dan ke atau dengan hye jin )

Mekpah

Iols expect a balance amount of dark and comedy.. Tp nmpaknya lebih kpd comedy jer.. Lawak plak mcm xmenjadi.. Xkelakar

cycra

waktu suggest kat kawan citer ni,,kata kunci yang iols bagi adalah cuci mata...nak cuci mata and layan rileks2 tgk laa,,

xyla73

Mekpah replied at 22-2-2021 10:15 AM
Iols expect a balance amount of dark and comedy.. Tp nmpaknya lebih kpd comedy jer.. Lawak plak mcm  ...

samalah...
i expect the same...sebab tgk trailer kemain...
iols tak kisah kalau ada byk comedy..
tapi the comedy look forced here...tak natural...
so nak gelak pun tak boleh...
iols tak tau salah kat mana...
salah writer ke, atau salah director ke ataupun salah pelakon yg tak boleh deliver watak masing2...

lonso

xyla73 replied at 22-2-2021 10:54 AM
samalah...
i expect the same...sebab tgk trailer kemain...
iols tak kisah kalau ada byk comedy.. ...

yes comedy dia pun nmpk mcm force mcm tu.. mcm dibuat2

shiraloveyou

Nk move on dr mr queen, tp bila tgk citer ni mcm x boleh nak go walaupun ade joongki dgn taecyeon...

mbhcsf

hi guys

i tengok yg ada subtitles

wow episode 2 , my god , i have no idea that all the triggering events semueeeee berlaku dalam episode 2 - my god

macam  ni - too many chaotic triggering events seawal episode 2  hahaha aiyoyo...

1.  hahaha sepatutnya main goal Cassano ni ialah untuk dapatkan emas yg tersimpan kat basement buiding ni di mana atasnya ialah buddhist temple , i yoyoooooo, susahlah hehehehehe , payah sikit sebab  macammacamlah kan itu misi dia dan capish ke Malta

2. maybe dia akan retrial case mak dia  - the lady who was wrongly accused of murdering er employer

3.  dia sepatutnta nak dendiam je cari jalan untuk musnahkan palza gyeum? za tu kan? ambik emas tu dan off Korea ...dan dia as a mafia adviser - dan dah ada dalam rekod  intelligence Korea , so  dia sepatutnya under radar - act elusively  under radar lah , sepatutnya minimise hu hu semua , kecoh kepoh semua ( yalah an adviser to  mob kot takkan nak alive gegiler , not so smartlah )  tapi ...ni yg plotwist  - ada wujudnya companies cekik darah : Babel ( in other language babel means tower ke? )  Pharmaceutical , Babel Development etc and Misung = 3 entities ni adalah ' the bad guys '- dan salah satu proxy pada company ni dah berkonflik dengan Cassano and  his trusted aide - Mr Cho yg pada episode 1 dah diperas ugut kan dan dipaksa tandatangan peralihan hak milik bangunan tu ...

so dalam konflik tu segala his pandora and worms in his cans are leashed out lah - dia boleh melawan and berlawan dan ,  tenants/ penyewa bangunan  tu dah dapat tahu eventually Mr Cho dah bagi hak milik - dan sep asyak cassano memngkhinati
so mau ta mau dia susah nak built rapport dengan Jipuragi manager - Lawyer Hang  tu ...sebab dah berlaku macam ni.

sebab dengan apa yg berlaku (dia terpaksa siding the  weak guys  - iaitu gang gang  penyewa tu la )

5. i think dia  pun tahu yg pemilik italian  restaurante tu is a con artist - saja je dia nak sakat atau nak kasi mesej kot - i think ini tabiat dia  - hahahah lawak scene ni ...uffizi kat Milan .. hahaha
saffron rissoto lagi dia order , hmm...

6.  dia dah mula opened up a bit about himself in episode 2 - i think he is viewing the lawyer hong tu  macam father figure , dia begin to adapt to Korean setting sebab nampak watak dia dalam drama ni - very distant , aloof, introvert , quiet and i think as a consigliere to a mafia kot ... hahaaha...mana boleh dia huhaa hello hello hihi sana sini,  but he needs  to stay below radar cuma insiden pertembungan proxy tu lah semua hell broke loose....so mau tak mau he neeeds to do all the  damage control.


7. menarik juga sejarah emas dalam building tu - okay dia ni kira tak lah jahat sangat sebab - pemiik asal  tu dah meninngal dan dia dan mr Cho saja yg tahu status pemikian emas2 tu - in a way , i ingat dia nak curi tapi still salah jugak kan ,  secara teknikal , sebab tuan punay ta bagi izin bertulis apa apa abentuk izin kan?, kalau tak ada ...then  i  presumed dia rasalah dia berhak je kot. he did ask mr cho 3 months prior - nak tak kongsi ...selepas retirement ( early retirement )

hebat betul safety  measures peti simpanan emas tu ye ....atasnya buddhist temple aura habiss hahahahah


8 - his profile ialah dia seorang yg reserved/ introvert and deep person, smart - and dia ada kisah silam yg pahit di korea - so  sebab tu dia macam ada adapting issues , curing ( part ly he dah rasa jadi italian kot haha ) - macam dia benci sangat korea - ini dalam kes dia kena rompak on his way to seoul from incheon airport , dan  dia masa rompakan  dia cursing  korea..., kedua  dia tak tahu pun cara minum - makgeolli korea - makanan streetfood korea - macam dia tahu but tak enjoying , dan minum -  cara minum - then Lawyer Hong tu yg ajar dia...dan he noticed in this  episode  he begins to break open his deep personal shells...albeit a bit.i think his character was made to have some painful past in korea la...adapting issues.

that was touching...


9. dynamic tiga suku daughter - daddy  - he disowns her daughter - but  daughter dia dok menempel kat daddy dia juga , rasa belas...
i suka cassano mengajar sikit org dari babel tu dengan tendang kerusi style betul ...like it.

dahlah keja kat lawyer's firm  yg menenatng ayah dia
awat dia asyik asik selalu berjalan salah arah .....


hehehehe well we shall see next episode - tentang hsi next move against the corrupted guys  tu, apa rahdia dia ada very deep gaze towards one of the lady tenants dalam studio tu - yg  pakai blouse warna putih so nice i suka fabric tu so light and takpanas,  dan macam mane dia nak deal dengan semua ni
tapi part yg last tu creative - buat party hahaha walhal nak kena roboh dah plaza tu ...

i like this  drama plotwise ...hoping to see more character development ...tapi ya ALLAh seawal episode 2 dah banyak trigerring events dah ni.

Rahah

Writernim ni 1st time kot buat citer dark comedy... sebelum2 ni comedy je... iols suka 2 citer dia sebelum ni Chief Kim & The Fiery Priest... Vincenzo ni kadang okay kadang tak...

Tapi iols still nak tau macam mana dia nak dapatkan gold tu... rupanya owner gold tu dah passed away rupanya...

mbhcsf

oh lupa i nak cakap semalam, masa depa makan makan streetfood tu - then Lawyer Hong tu - terangkan makna pada nama syarikat guamannya JIPURAGI = means the last straw  ( battle / challenges pertarungan)

It is a kind of philosophical a bit - i mean , the semantics are  deep.

makna kata dia dah ternagkan yg dia juga public defense lawyer - yg bukan beria - ria sangat nak memang case tapi sebagai jln terakhir sesseorang pesalah yg disalah bicara mendapatkan a sort of comic?  relief atau relieves dari kesengsaraan depa lah kan , sort of.

what a noble man...dia pun tahu itu dan ini sumber antagonist bad vs evil ( misung anak perempuannnya bekerja di syarikat ini )


i mean no wonder i teringat Cassano - tengok nama syarikat tu renung macam lama sikit - sebab ia pelik, kot.


lagi satu - i think that buddhist monk - yg muda tu mulut boleh tahan macam perli je  - dengan tulisan depan temple - suruh buat  kebaikan... hahaha

hahahahah ade ke letak temple atas simpanan mas - nak tergelak betul- sebab the previous  tenant was a bit messy - so kata Mr Cho , dia pilih tenant yg lebih ' sopan' nah kau temple  terus
hahahaha

i found this drama  macam italian job sesikit , satirical macam tu ...hahahalagi satu - part di maan Cassano asked the italian con artist ( cook / chef tu ) : where did he learn his culinary skills ? dia kata kat .....moter's Touch cooking academy ke hahahahahhaha

episode 2 ni dah mula semak dengan wow so many triggering events ...it is fun for me (fun lah banding dengan crowned clown yg brutal tu )
Pssst...i dah dapat dah nama lukisan yang macam Avenues tu



i silap - BUKAN REMBRANDT tang sceneic view macam avenues tu ep 1 tu isaid macam eu piantings i have seen , so ia bukan Rembrandt ia Meideft? Hobbema...sorry guys
tapi Hobbema - THE AVENUE of MIDDLEHARNIS

Great Paintings: The Avenue, Middelharnis By Hobbema



https://enjoysomedamnfineart.blo ... iddelharnis.htmlsee    the paintings
https://medium.com/thinksheet/gr ... obbema-612f2c9d6088

sebenarnya sapa peminat lukisan boleh je dekat insta pi type national art gallery UK ade , boleh follow insta site depa. nice.

Hari ni ke semalam ke, Hari Jadi
Pierre  Auguste Renoir ...25/2/1841  _ Cheoljung ? was enthroned  kan?

mbhcsf

ep 3
same pacing but with  more expansion of the plots , events tak banyak tapi more on events yg menyentuh emosi jugaklah

apa yg berlaku ialah

- the Korean Intelligence Officer  - we have seen him before i.e. 1st epsiode ,in his office, reporting about Cassano etc etc., so , mamat ni  muncul dalam ep 3 - spying on him and his activity.
- dia mula menyusup bila Vincenzo berjaya halag plaza geumga dari diroboh oleh proxy Babel tower - he did party the whole ite and Lawyer Hong  Yu  Chan - impressed, so yes. semua tenants happy.In other scene, we watched Cassano gave the last warning to the guy at the babel firm supaya jgn blow up atau musnahkan plaza geumga tu. Ketika tu proxy dia mula nak bawa semua kenderaan untuk demolish dh ...

So in a warm he sort of gained  their trusts and building more strong rapport lah. So dia dah mual beli tikar elektrik untuk panaskan the monk at the temple dan ketika tu  the Korean Inteligence officer dok intai intai tersentuh denga kerja amal dia hahahah, this is cool.

dan dia juga join bakti membelasah budak  lelaki - remember that there was a boy who likes to smoke and heavily scolded and punished by  his mom in ep 2? okay  hahahah  - ni scene lawak di mana  Cassano turut sama mengawai budak tu dan memukul budak tu supaya jgn merokok.
it was a funny scene , nice.
dan Korean Intteligence tu pun terharu jugak....sebab dia baut baiklah dalam building tu.

-  Lawyer Hong Yu Chan - masih lagi menyiasat kes Babel pharmaceutical tu - dia berjmpa saksi ( i think he is one of the researchers kot ) yg jadi whistle blower , ceritakan kejadian expeiment maut dengan salah seorang pesakit atau subjek yg mengambil trial drug tu. So , dedua org ni tengah building up their case lah.
Tapi later you see, syarikat Bable Pharmaceutical ( Bpharm ) dah dapat tahu  mole tu sapa dan depa start  hapuskan team yang terlibat dalam kajian tu - yes and ini ada implikasi babak terakhir ep 3 - sapa yg dah tengok ....
yang team research tu dimusnahkan dengan ada bom epxlosion kat kediamana mereka semasa wakttu awal pagi , ketika they were asleep.


- Then ada scene the lady in the jail tu masuk dan terlantar di hospital, Lawyer Hong bawa Cassano sekali dan adalah mainan emosi kat situ. ada banyak script tapi i tak faham sangat sebab no substtles. hahahah

- ada banyak scene merujuk pada situas dan this bit

- dan kemudian ada beberapa scene yg menarik - di mana Cassan dah tak tahan dengan karenah  the daughter of Lawyer Hong tu yg tak sedar2 lagi - dan he cursed her , keluar habis air liur hahaa
dan dia pun ad anasihat this lady.

-  tapi hmm bab last ep 3

- tang tenant tak banyak garapan ep 3 ( i think teh audience can basically know and identify them sapa sapa already so tak banya kat scene tenant - melainkan chef con artist tu  hahaha so sekarang ni....that Korean Intelligence Officer bekerja as the sous chef  -  kat italian restaurant  tu

dan masa meeting tenant2 tu depa tertanya sapa mamat ni ?

hahaha

it was touching ....Cassano begins to know Lawyer Hong u semakin rapat but ...yups.ade sabotage akhir sekali ...

a few secenes ada yg agak significant tapi i tak tahu makna dialogue depa.


so yes

ni tak ada subtitles , kalau ada tentu lebih faham ni...

ernniey

Ishhh boleh sakit jantung darah tinggi tgk citer ni mlm ni.lawyer hong mcm bakalan mati jeharap2 xla.kedekut trailer xde pun tunjuk clips utk esok

mbhcsf

ernniey replied at 27-2-2021 11:59 PM
Ishhh boleh sakit jantung darah tinggi tgk citer ni mlm ni.lawyer hong mcm bakalan mati jeharap2 xla ...

the last part tu nampak kepala dia dah berdarah dah...tu yg i kena tengok yg ada subtitles tu

sayanglaa kan Cassano dah makin rapat dengan Lawyer Hong...

ernniey

mbhcsf replied at 28-2-2021 12:05 AM
the last part tu nampak kepala dia dah berdarah dah...tu yg i kena tengok yg ada subtitles tu

s ...

Mcm kritikal jugak tu.nntkan cha young tu join mr cassanova  fight babel ni,mungkin sbb dah tau pompuan aerobik  tu yg plan jahat ni.ataupun regret lps dinasihat oleh cassano.mcm2 perisa la citer ni secukup rasa