INSTINK MOB...

seribulan

Manusia ini bila bersendirian, tak banyak keburukan yang dibuat...

Cuba ada geng...kawan-kawan sekepala...timbullah instink mob derang...

From wiki...


Herd mentality, mob mentality and pack mentality, also lesser known as gang mentality, ... been studied by Sigmund Freud and Wilfred Trotter, whose book Instincts of the Herd in Peace and War is a classic in the field of social psychology.





Herd behavior is the behavior of individuals in a group acting collectively without centralized ... (Kierkegaard) and "herd morality" and the "herd instinct" (Nietzsche) in human society. ... The idea of a "group mind" or "mob behavior" was put forward by the French social psychologists Gabriel Tarde and Gustave Le Bon.

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ibuaq

Sangat betul tu. Macam iolls zaman sekolah dulu2 la time April fool gigih tangkap katak kat hostel padahal bapak penakutnya dengan binatang tu. Pengaruh kawan2. Rindu zaman itu

johan-adx

zaman asrama sekolah dan rumah bujang waktu belajar...mmg slalu jadi

fly_in_d_sky

rasanya betul kot
manusia kalau dalam kumpulan dia jadi berani gagah perkasa
tapi bila seorang dia jadi penakut ..

dalam satu kumpulan mesti ada pencetus yang boleh menyemarakkan lagi semangat
terutama bab nak perang


dalam kumpulan kita either jadi jahat atau baik
benda ni terjadi dalam kehidupan seharian
kalau tak macam mana ada wujud kes rompakan bagai

cuma kalau yang stand alone ni untuk buat kejahatan
rasanya jenis berani mati ...

Daintymerry19

Betul sgt..bila berkumpulan nih tambah2 lagi yang sekepala..bila ada idea nak wat sesuatu..masing2 bagi semgt..benda yg takut nak wat pun jadi berani.

Kalau sorg2..takde sokongan jadi takut nak wat any action.

kzr333

Ya setuju.. Biasanya bila ada sekumpulan kawan2 sekepala kita akan lebih berani buat sbb Selain dicabar dan mendapat sokongan.. Keseronokkan tu lebih lagi bila time ramai2.. Contoh Meols paling ingat masa Zaman jahiliah dulu masa student.. Masa ada kawan2 la baru berani nak try2 semua.. Kisah lama xyah kenang la yooo.. But the point of view is agreeable.. We tend to be brave enjoy and seronok bila ada sekumpulan kita yg sekepala..

seribulan

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fahdramli

Betoi kak mod, berjemaah lagi seronok kaedah nya, kalau nak buat jahat, lagi best sebab syaitan2 dari setiap orang berkumpul jadi syaitannya membesar...

Combi_

Ha’ah. Betul. Bila dalam kumpulan . Rasa lebih selamat. Kalau buat kerja/benda elok, lagi banyak idea dan sokongan . Kalau buat jahat, rasa lebih selamat dan tahap morality tu jadi kuat. Idea pun dah mcm-mcmz Yg lemah jadi kuat. Sbb tu kes  Yakuza dan geng  ni sukar untuk kawal. Konsep mcm api. Bila kecil kawan , besar lawan.

cikbawang237

betul la u.. ble sorang behave sikitla, ada geng menjadi2.. double trouble org kata

seribulan

Quote from novel LORD OF THE FLIES...

AlterEgo

thank you for tagging SM @seribulan

Interesting the term - mob mentality - tu.

Nak share..I looked for Herd behaviour's term (Google of course )

It often has a connotation of irrationality, as people’s actions are driven by emotion rather than by thinking through a situation. Human herd behavior can be observed at large-scale demonstrations, riots, strikes, religious gatherings, sports events, and outbreaks of mob violence. When herd behavior sets in, an individual person’s judgment and opinion-forming process shuts down as he or she automatically follows the group’s movement and behavior.

then the following examples caught my attention - looking the term beyond negative connotations:

1) Herd behavior in humans is frequently observed at times of danger and panic; for example, a fire in a building often causes herd behavior, with people often suspending their individual reasoning and fleeing together in a pack -  following the mass escape trend.

2) Herd behavior does not always have such harmful effects; it can be influential in people’s everyday,simple decisions. For example, suppose that a family is walking down the street looking for a restaurant to have dinner. If they pass a restaurant that is empty and one that is relatively crowded with patrons, they are far more likely to choose the crowded one, on the assumption that it’s better because there are more people there.

All in all, from my POV, herd mentality does affect our choices of action - cuma tinggal perang dengan self consciousness act at your own risk gitu.

seribulan

AlterEgo replied at 28-6-2019 10:17 AM
thank you for tagging SM @seribulan

Interesting the term - mob mentality - tu.

Not SM anymore...the herd don't like a person giving too much accolade

seribulan

ada kaitan Lord of The flies...secara tak langsung MOB juga...


                                                                The Maze Runner, and Hollywood's child-killing problem                        The death of a child - once a rare onscreen event - is now a standard part of   films such as The Hunger Games and The Maze Runner. Why aren't we more   shocked?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kill your darlings: the cast of The Maze Runner Photo: Rex Features


                                                                                                                       
                                                               
                                                       
                                                               
               
                       
                               
                                                                               
                                                                                                                                               
                               

                                                        By Tim Robey

                                       


       
                 This week’s young adult blockbuster, The Maze Runner, has made it into UK cinemas with a 12A rating: but at a cost. Forty-three seconds had to be cut before the BBFC were happy to pass it at that level, rather than at 15, which the distributor, 20th Century Fox, was determined to avoid.



Forty-three seconds is rather a lot of trimming. Consider that The Dark Knight (2008) was passed uncut for a 12A. Only seven seconds of cuts were needed to get one for The Hunger Games (2012), and six for The Woman in Black (2012).

In America, where a PG-13 certificate permits considerably more intensity, violence and gore than our 12A, this suggests that The Maze Runner is pushing the envelope. The dystopia it conjures is a boys’ own one, with a single female character in the mix. Their combat against the “grievers” – giant mechanical spiders patrolling the maze in which they’re all imprisoned – is ferocious and often fatal.



The adolescent death toll here is considerable: but what’s increasingly clear is that this is becoming a required part of the formula. Dead teenagers, or those constantly threatened by death, are a key component for YA success – not just in the survival-adventure franchises such as this, The Hunger Games and Divergent, but even in the real world, as The Fault in Our Stars and If I Stay indicate, too.



The intentional killing of a child on screen was once very rare. There are exceptions, like the young moppet gunned down outside an ice cream van in John Carpenter’s Assault on Precinct 13 (1976), or the Grady twins in The Shining, whose murder we only witness in sudden, terrifying flashes. Older teenagers, in that same era, often succumbed to knife-wielding slasher villains, or the telekinetic revenge of Carrie, and so on.


         Few films, though, have ever pursued the motif to braver, more disturbing extremes than the 1976 Spanish horror film Who Can Kill A Child?, in which an English couple find themselves assaulted on an island by an army of maniacal children. They’ve murdered every adult in their vicinity, and the only defence against them is ultimately to fight back – it’s kill or be killed.



The Spanish horror film Who Can Kill a Child? (REX)


We’ve now entered an age where children are just as vulnerable to sudden death as anyone else on screen. The Maze Runner differs from its closest twin, The Hunger Games, in that all the kids – at least to begin with – start out on the same side. They’re bonded together in a shared resolve to stay alive, even if it means spending their entire adolescence as neo-Thoreauvian farmers in the maze’s lush central glade.
It’s not all campfire harmony, though: there are wrinkles, squabbles, lines drawn within the community. A boy called Ben, stung by a griever and crazed by his infection, tries to kill the hero, Thomas, and is communally banished to near-certain death in the maze. Meanwhile, Will Poulter’s character, Gally, becomes opposed to the latest escape plan. It’s rare that The Maze Runner’s teenagers draw weapons on each other – a choice The Hunger Games’ heroine Katniss Everdeen must often make or die. But there are still dangerous tensions in their ranks.


Why this vogue for child-killing?


It’s not new but cyclical. Think back one generation, to the films that were hits for an equivalent audience in the Eighties, and you’re looking at more or less anything starring Corey Feldman – The Goonies (1985), Stand By Me (1986), The Lost Boys (1987). Those adventures flirted with serious jeopardy, but eventually stepped back from the brink; their teenage heroes may come of age in the crucible of adult peril, but they always tended to survive.
Think back two generations, and the safety net is gone again, for a popular audience still scarred by the Second World War. William Golding wrote Lord of the Flies, arguably the chest-beating granddaddy of all Young Adult novels, in 1954. The fates of Simon and Piggy in that book are emblematic of the genre’s biggest themes – the dangers of herd mentality, the precarious underpinnings of civilisation. Those are seminal murders.


When Simon runs down from the mountain with crucial news, and is mistakenly slaughtered by the other boys, they are in the midst of crazed, almost Bacchic, revelry. Golding was certainly influenced by Euripides in this sequence, and has related warnings to impart, which have trickled down to our own, similarly wary, hair-trigger present.
Indeed, The Maze Runner has a decidedly Lord of the Flies-ian feel, with its absent adults, power plays and boys making up their own rules. As with the child-on-child brutality of The Hunger Games, we ought to feel shocked by it – perhaps more shocked than we even do. Cutting away from violence and its consequences – trimming it down for a 12A – gets the youngest possible audience in, sure, but does it serve the material best?


Not really. Imagine Piggy’s demise, when he’s knocked off a cliff by a boulder, rendered with squeamish editing. Golding is graphic: “His head opened and stuff came out and turned red. Piggy’s arms and legs twitched a bit, like a pig’s after it has been killed.”
The horror of such moments is vital to what meaning and impact a story like this can have. The Hunger Games films know this, somewhere deep down, but we find them, and their censors, wrestling constantly with the problem of how much they can get away with showing.


These are fundamentally films about children killing other children, but they’re often caught hiding the fact, shutting their eyes to it.
Of course, there was never a chance they’d go down the 18-rated route of the 2001 Japanese thriller Battle Royale, in which a class of school kids are forced to kill each other in a frenzied bloodbath. That wasn’t a realistic prospect.


Still, it’s possible to feel this current wave of pictures err too far on the side of timidity, restricting their potential out of age-appropriate concern for fragile young sensibilities. Or maybe they’re just stuck with the wrong demographic. On the page, after all, it’s possible to be shocking and circumspect at the same time. But on the big screen, these compromises are obvious in every hasty whip-pan, every snip of the censor’s scissors, to make the gladiatorial fates of these striplings a little gentler to behold.

AlterEgo

seribulan replied at 28-6-2019 12:24 PM
Not SM anymore...the herd don't like a person giving too much accolade

lah, baru perasan!   

seribulan

AlterEgo replied at 28-6-2019 12:04 PM
lah, baru perasan!

AlterEgo

seribulan replied at 28-6-2019 02:04 PM

hahaha lari tak cukup tanah ni!

msmaggie

Konsep nya, the more the merrier kan

pintudung

seribulan replied at 27-6-2019 07:20 PM
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Ya allah betulll tak tahu nak amik update tahu latest update kat mana. masih ada lagi ke kat CI? Al fatihah untuk arwah adik Zulfarhan

pintudung

Betul, bila bergroup ni rasa macam boleh tempuh segala masalah bersama sama sebab macam macam jenis otak lain fikiran ada dalam gang ni ha. tambah2 bila dapat gang yang always positive and open minded in a good way. Tapi kalau tergelincir dalam kelompok gang yang tak baik tak okay boleh bagi harm kat kita sebab manusia kan kadangkala mudah terpengaruh seperti iolss