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Originally posted by kEk_KeL@d| at 23-12-2003 01:53 PM:
hehe... tu yg nak nengok tu.. 
apsal la Kim Ha Neul tu lawa sgt.. kesiannye dia tengok Zhi Suo minta break dgn dia semlm..:cry:
btw, sekarang ni tgh tengok cite Secret Lover.. hehe..
eh, awak tengok versi Korea ke Mandarin? |
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Originally posted by whitedove at 23-12-2003 03:07 PM:
eh, awak tengok versi Korea ke Mandarin?
mandarin jugak.. since puas cari yg koren version nyer tapi tak jumpa :cf: tak abis lagi tengok |
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Episod 16 - A brother’s love stops at nothing
Tersentuh hati masa tengok scene Tai Fung macam "hilang punca" bila dapat tahu Lun Zhu masuk hospital. Dia yang memang dah tak sedap hati terus ingat nak ke hospital je, saying to himself that Lun Zhu cuma demam. Sebenarnya ada scene yang ntv7 potong sebaik saja lepas iklan.
Scene yang disingkatkan:
Tai Fung, dia berjalan ke hospital, seolah-olah sedang bermimpi. Nak naik teksi, duit tak cukup. In a moment of desperation, dia cuba nak 'melarikan' motorsikal polis trafik. Masa tu the 2 policeman sedang mengawal lalu-lintas. Tai Fung tak fikir panjang, dia terus lompat naik atas motor & cuba nak start tapi tak boleh sampai polis tu pun tersedar apa yang berlaku. They tried to stop him tapi Tai Fung memang tak peduli apa-apa dah masa tu, all he wants was to get to Lun Zhu. Itu yang dia merayu dengan the policemen and they brought him to the hospital. (nampak macam funny but it's actually very heart-breaking)
Zhi Suo pula, tekanan berpisah dengan Siu He rupanya terlalu berat baginya. Scene dia menangis sambil tidur was really pitiful. IMO, antara scene SSH yang paling emosional in the drama.
The story so far
After they both fallen sick and recover, Zhi Suo decided that he and Siu He had to end their relationship. As his heart has been wavered by Cai Lin's offer of power and wealth, he does not want to make Siu He suffer anymore. The two cried in each other arms. Though they loved each other but they have to part.
After their break-up, Siu He was very depressed and seeing her like that pained Tai Fung’s heart. He was by her side, trying to comfort her but to no avail. Zhi Suo tried to forget Siu He and wanted to settle the marriage plans with Cai Lin as soon as possible. But he told Cai Lin that in his heart, he will only love Siu He till the day he dies. Though Cai Lin felt sad by his words, she did not care as long as he is by her side, even if she cannot have his heart.
Lun Zhu finally collapsed from her sickness. Shen Ye has no choice but to tell Tai Fung and Wen Zhu about the truth. To save Lun Zhu, Tai Fung and Wen Zhu went for checkup but found they were not suitable donors.
(Translated HT episode recap by Shirley of BD Yahoo! Group) |
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Originally posted by katt at 24-12-2003 12:11 AM:
Tersentuh hati masa tengok scene Tai Fung macam "hilang punca" bila dapat tahu Lun Zhu masuk hospital. Dia yang memang dah tak sedap hati terus ingat nak ke hospital je, say ...
memang jelas dia ni seorang abang yang sayangkan adiknya dan juga seorang adik yang sayangkan semua ahli keluarganya. Especially masa dia nak try larikan motosikal polis. When we watched that scene mungkin kita rasa nak ketawa but at the same time kita rasa sedih tengok dia yang terlalu risaukan adiknya. |
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Originally posted by katt at 24-12-2003 12:11 AM:
Tersentuh hati masa tengok scene Tai Fung macam "hilang punca" bila dapat tahu Lun Zhu masuk hospital. Dia yang memang dah tak sedap hati terus ingat nak ke hospital je, say ...
laa...scene tu sikit sangat la...apasal la ntv7 potong scene2 yg penting camtu... |
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nak tak nak, sekarang ni Tai Fung terpaksa jugak tebalkan muka mintak bantuan Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo demi Lun Zhu yg tersayang...couldn't imagine what he's willing to do to get them to go through the body check, itupun kalau Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo sanggup lupakan masa lampau...tapi nampaknya Chan Zhu dah mula lembut hati... |
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The tv version
Originally posted by whitedove at 2003-12-24 09:12 AM:
laa...scene tu sikit sangat la...apasal la ntv7 potong scene2 yg penting camtu...
I'm know I'm going to sound bias here but can't help feeling that ntv7 tends to cut scenes with LBH especially. Mungkin semuanya secara kebetulan & tak disengajakan, due to time & commercial breaks but some of his scenes memang selalu dipendekkan berbanding versi vcd. (Ok, ok....I paid more attention to Tai Fung, so don't shoot me  ).
Tapi yang paling tak best when Tears does not appear in the tv version. |
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The confrontation of love
Originally posted by whitedove at 2003-12-24 09:19 AM:
nak tak nak, sekarang ni Tai Fung terpaksa jugak tebalkan muka mintak bantuan Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo demi Lun Zhu yg tersayang...couldn't imagine what he's willing to do to get them to go through the body check, itupun kalau Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo sanggup lupakan masa lampau...tapi nampaknya Chan Zhu dah mula lembut hati...
A scene not to be missed......tak seperti yang kita harap atau sangkakan. :re: |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-24 03:05 PM:
A scene not to be missed......tak seperti yang kita harap atau sangkakan. :re:
err .. aku dah tgk episod td .. tp tak faham maksud post ko kat atas tu :stp:
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akhirnya .. 'gunung2 berapi pendam' dah meletus tadi .. sekarang barulah aku lbh faham kenapa CZ betul2 bencikan ibu & bapa tirinya .. agak mengejutkan juga bila tahu betapa bencinya dia pd ibunya tu ..
#moral of the story:- sebelum kahwin lagi .. menangi dulu hati anak2 |
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Episode 17 - the truth is finally out
The story so far
Lun Zhu finally collapsed from her sickness. Shen Ye has no choice but to tell Tai Fung and Wen Zhu about the truth. To save Lun Zhu, Tai Fung and Wen Zhu went for checkup but found they were not suitable donors. Tai Fung pinned his hopes on Zhi Suo and Chan Zhu and asked them out to tell them about Lun Zhu. During the meeting, Chan Zhu was very angry at Tai Fung for the past, and suddenly Lun Zhu appeared and this finally make Chan Zhu broke down.
She said that she hated Tai Fung's father but she hated her mother even more. And she intended to take revenge on her mother but she died. Because of her mother's marriage to Tai Fung's father, she and Zhi Suo was humiliated and looked down by the children in school, that their mother was already having an affair even before their real father died. That was why she did not want to accept Tai Fung nor Lun Zhu. Saving Lun Zhu should be their mother's responsibility, why must she be held responsible?
Zhi Suo and Chan Zhu left the place. Tai Fung and Wen Zhu was upset at how the event turned out. Lun Zhu did not mind. Zhi Suo advised Chan Zhu to go for the checkup but she refused. Zhi Suo went alone for checkup but was also found to be unsuitable. He ran into Tai Fung who thanked him for coming but he told Tai Fung that Lun Zhu is his sister but Tai Fung will never be his brother.
(Translated HT episode recap by Shirley of BD Yahoo! Group)
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Enough is enough
Finally, Tai Fung tak lagi dapat menahan perasaannya bila melihat layanan Chan Zhu dan Zhi Suo terhadap Lun Zhu. Jika hanya dia yang dibenci oleh mereka, rasanya Tai Fung masih boleh bersabar tapi bila Lun Zhu juga tidak dipedulikan, everything in him exploded! Seperti kata Tai Fung, Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo tak habis-habis menyalahkan ibubapa mereka serta Tai Fung & Lun Zhu (hanya kerana mereka ada pertalian darah samseng) di atas segala yang berlaku semasa mereka kecil. Seolah-olah hanya Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo yang menjadi mangsa keadaan.
Benar katanya, mereka semua lupa yang Tai Fung juga menerima kesan yang sama. What about him? Dia kehilangan bapanya, tiba-tiba ditinggalkan begitu saja dengan Lun Zhu yang masih kecil. For someone so young at the time, Tai Fung terpaksa buat keputusan menyerahkan Lun Zhu kepada orang. Dan dia masih tak berhenti mengharap yang suatu hari Chan Zhu akan kembali mencari mereka. Now, who's suffers the most?
Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-24 03:01 PM:
Tapi yang paling tak best when Tears does not appear in the tv version.
Oops, hehe.....I've spoken too soon, nampaknya .
Hari ni, bernasib baik pula bila tengok HT di tv. Satu, sebab dapat dengar suara LBH masa dia menyanyi untuk menghiburkan Lun Zhu. The one where he impersonates a rock star, siap dengan rambut palsu & jaket kulit.  Keduanya, dapat dengar lagu Tears masa scene flashback tu. Finally....
Such a sad scene, akhirnya Tai Fung tak dapat mengawal perasaannya yang begitu tertekan. Dia menangis teresak-esak di depan Lun Zhu & Pu He. Suasana yang ceria bertukar menjadi sedih......
[ Last edited by katt on 24-12-2003 at 11:41 PM ] |
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The confrontation
Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-24 03:05 PM:
A scene not to be missed......tak seperti yang kita harap atau sangkakan. :re:
Originally posted by yellow belmont at 2003-12-24 10:16 PM:
err .. aku dah tgk episod td .. tp tak faham maksud post ko kat atas tu :stp:
Ini personal perception.....
Kalau diikutkan sebelum scene tu nampak seolah-olah Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo dah mula berubah hati bila sanggup bertemu dengan Tai Fung & Wen Zhu tanpa banyak sangat soal.
Tapi keadaan menjadi tegang bila Chan Zhu (terutamanya) & Tai Fung tidak dapat lagi memendam & mengawal perasaan mereka.
Sepatutnya (ideally) Chan Zhu gembira bertemu dengan Lun Zhu tapi yang sebaliknya pula berlaku.
But it's a good start for all of them..... |
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Bingwoo a.k.a. Ice Shower
Originally posted by katt at 24-12-2003 11:11 PM:
The latest on Song Seung Hun, Kim Ha Neul & Jeon Ji Hyun's new films scheduled for release next year.
The stars of Bingwoo aka Ice Shower/Ice Rain. The film is scheduled for releas ...
Katt,
crite nih mcm 'copy' crite Vertical Limits je yer.. ;)
tp mungkin ade lain skit kot..... |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-24 11:30 PM:
Ini personal perception.....
Kalau diikutkan sebelum scene tu nampak seolah-olah Chan Zhu & Zhi Suo dah mula berubah hati bila sanggup bertemu dengan Tai Fung & Wen Zhu[/ ...
oooh .. ok2 .. dah faham dah
samalah tu kita .. aku pun tak sangka jadi camtu .. :cf: |
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Episod 17
Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-24 11:20 PM:
The story so far
He ran into Tai Fung who thanked him for coming but he told Tai Fung that Lun Zhu is his sister but Tai Fung will never be his brother.
IMO .. ini 1 lagi kesilapan dlm "penceritaan" .. actually mereka terjumpa .. & ZS kemudiannya tegur samada nak naik lif atau tak .. jd tak sesuai kalau cakap "he ran into TF" .. maybe sbb nak terlalu ringkas .. tu la pasal
Benar katanya, mereka semua lupa yang Tai Fung juga menerima kesan yang sama. What about him? Dia kehilangan bapanya, tiba-tiba ditinggalkan begitu saja dengan Lun Zhu yang masih kecil. For someone so young at the time, Tai Fung terpaksa buat keputusan menyerahkan Lun Zhu kepada orang. Dan dia masih tak berhenti mengharap yang suatu hari Chan Zhu akan kembali mencari mereka. Now, who's suffers the most?
erm .. mmg betul .. not only CZ & ZS .. actually mereka semua blh dikatakan mangsa keadaan .. aku rasa beginilah norma manusia .. pabila kita rasa teraniaya .. kita akan hanya memikirkan bahawa kita berada di pihak yg benar .. maka kita cenderung utk gagal melihat keadaan org lain ..
Oops, hehe.....I've spoken too soon, nampaknya .
I guess so
Hari ni, bernasib baik pula bila tengok HT di tv. Satu, sebab dapat dengar suara LBH masa dia menyanyi untuk menghiburkan Lun Zhu. The one where he impersonates a rock star, siap dengan rambut palsu & jaket kulit. Keduanya, dapat dengar lagu Tears masa scene flashback tu. Finally....
lupa nak tanya samada itu suara dia .. sib baik ko post
[ Last edited by yellow belmont on 25-12-2003 at 03:17 PM ] |
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Off-topic: Ice Shower
Originally posted by shanew3stgalz at 25-12-2003 01:47 PM:
Katt,
crite nih mcm 'copy' crite Vertical Limits je yer.. ;)
tp mungkin ade lain skit kot.....
Yelah, dengarnya macam tu jugak tapi mungkin ada kelainannya sikit. Quite adventurous juga mereka ni, sampai ke Canada panjat gunung...... |
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Translation
Originally posted by yellow belmont at 25-12-2003 03:02 PM:
IMO .. ini 1 lagi kesilapan dlm "penceritaan" .. actually mereka terjumpa .. & ZS kemudiannya tegur samada nak naik lif atau tak .. jd tak sesuai kalau cakap "he ran into TF" .. maybe sbb nak terlalu ringkas .. tu la pasal
Hmm, yellow memang teliti bila baca translation ni.
But the term "ran into" is, IMO correct.....sama ada mereka terjumpa di tengah jalan, dalam lif atau di mana saja, asalkan bukan disengajakan. The term "ran into" does not literally mean "run/ran", ianya sesuatu yang tak dirancang, seperti "terserempak".
But you're right in the sense that Zhi Suo terpaksa tegur Tai Fung untuk masuk ke dalam lif sebab mereka tak bertembung face-to-face. And also, like you said, the way it was summarized pun sebenarnya untuk meringkaskan terjemahan tersebut setepat yang boleh. |
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Huh! ntv7 potong lagi
Episod 18 ni pun ada scenes yang dipotong-potong. Especially the scene Siu He call Tai Fung sebab dia tak pasti nak beli tiket bas atau tidak. Masa ni, Tai Fung berlari di padang baseball tu sorang-sorang, pretending dia buat homerun dan tiba-tiba dia dapat message (through his beeper) dari Siu He yang tak pasti dengan keputusannya nak pergi ataupun sebaliknya. Tai Fung bila dengar je message tu terus berlari mencari Siu He. Tiba-tiba ntv7 tunjuk part Tai Fung dah sampai di station bus. Walaupun itu cuma scene berlari (tanpa dialog) tapi tak patutlah potong. Huh, 2 minit 10 saat LBH punya scene, ntv7 dah cut :sp:.
Nasib baik part Tai Fung bertumbuk sakan dengan Zhi Suo tu ntv7 tak tukar backround songnya. At least dapat dengar Tears lagi sekali.....loud and clear :2cool:.
Lagi satu scene yang ntv7 potong ialah scene Zhi Suo sedang memandu nak ke pejabat & Cai Lin call him on his hp. Sebenarnya kereta tu Cai Lin yang hantar ke rumah Zhi Suo untuk Zhi Suo gunakan walaupun dia tahu Zhi Suo memang tak suka. Mahu tak mahu Zhi Suo terpaksa juga gunakan the car, itulah yang membuatkan Siu He rasa serba-salah masa mereka berdua bertembung sebelum tu. |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-12-26 01:23 AM:
But the term "ran into" is, IMO correct.....sama ada mereka terjumpa di tengah jalan, dalam lif atau di mana saja, asalkan bukan disengajakan. The term "ran into" does not literally mean "run/ran", ianya sesuatu yang tak dirancang, seperti "terserempak".
oic .. jadi betullah ayat dia tu ..
meaning .. asalkan ianya tak dirancang .. maka blh guna "ran into" .. camtu kan? |
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Post time 23-12-2003 03:07 PM
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