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[Tempatan] Kanak-kanak mati ditinggal dlm kereta:Ibu Mangsa Biasa Tinggalkan Anak! #1403

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Post time 23-7-2013 02:05 PM | Show all posts
aku tak boleh digest apa2 yg cikgu2 ni komen kat blog ni
http://ezaiza.blogspot.com/

asyik2 salahkan profession, suruh nilai..naikkan gaji biar berbaloi
naikkan gaji dorang ni confirm dorang tak lalai ke?

pastu asyik sebut KALAU TAKDE CIKGU, TAK WUJUD profession yang lain2
so kalau mcm tu asyik nak berbangga dgn kerja guru, guru bz, guru mulia guru agung

esok2 jawabnya mmg akan ada lg kes mcm ni
bukan nk amik iktibar
pelik betul
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:07 PM | Show all posts
hamtaro posted on 23-7-2013 01:42 PM
nyampah betul aku bila terdgr sorg cikgu duk ngomen KPM xbertimbang rs sbb buat meeting kt putrajaya ...

cehh! aku meeting turun dari kl ke kuantan. kl-ipoh. aku pun ibu jugak
ada anak2....bukan nk kata belagak tapi cara cikgu2 ni seolah2 tak boleh tegur kalau silap sekali pun

mrk aje yg mulia....yg lain2 tu semua jadi pandai pun sebab mereka punye jasa

kalo gini gaya..lantak ko la
mmg tak heran byk kes mcm ni dari kalangan guru
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:08 PM | Show all posts
Santeira posted on 23-7-2013 01:58 PM
mental block is one of the causes though it is extremely rare. kalau orang tu memang ada penyakit  ...

yes, and then again what we got from the mainstream media is just bits and pieces not even close to what happened that day, apa yg kita tahu kecuaian tu mengakibatkan nawal meninggal dlm kereta tu on that fateful day

i find it interesting that these cases often happened to those that are in a hurry, our brain can only contains certain amount of memory San, most of the cases they recalled vividly that they had send their kids to the nursery and what not. and that is the reason kenapa it takes them till end of the day to realize that something went wrong, because the brain tak send a signal, and for nawal, mak cik dia pun takda tanya or her dad yg kat PP pun takda call mak dia agaknya, they assume that the daily routine was done

we need to understand this
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OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 23-7-2013 02:04 PM
and if you're not tooo emotional then you can read that shin kata nak hukum tu HARUS kalau ada int ...

Dlm kes ni, sgt rare. Never heard this disease in Malaysia. Psl tu buat apa kita nak bahaskan bahawa ada tak kemungkinan mak budak tu mental block which is very unlikely. Sebab apa aku marah?? Sebab perangai org Malaysia mudah lupa. This is not the first case and believe me this is not going to be the last. They never learn from any of these incident. So buat apa nak tambah lg dgn penyakit yg takde dlm Malaysia tu?  Blm pun reda kes baby Nawal, esok harinya ada lg satu kes di Sabah. Itu pun atas kesedaran rakyat nampak budak tu dlm parking lot dan goncangkan kereta tu utk kejutkan budak tu. If not, apa mcm?? Can u imagine what will happen?

I'm Muslim so kenapa?
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:10 PM | Show all posts
justchu posted on 23-7-2013 02:05 PM
aku tak boleh digest apa2 yg cikgu2 ni komen kat blog ni
http://ezaiza.blogspot.com/

Jgn layan kalau ada cikgu bermentaliti sebegitu rupa..

Mereka yg menyalahkan kerjaya akibat kesilapan zsndiri adalah mereka yg lemah mindanya lagi rendah tahap mentalitinya.
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:13 PM | Show all posts
SulurBidar posted on 23-7-2013 02:10 PM
Jgn layan kalau ada cikgu bermentaliti sebegitu rupa..

Mereka yg menyalahkan kerjaya akibat kes ...

sedeh betul...
dorang ni tau ke tak yg org semua kesian ibu tu..
kesian lagi baby tu, semua kalau boleh nak bantu tapi apa sgt bolh buat pun...
benda dah jadi

bukan suruh g canang pasal kerja ke hapa
kalau kerja ustad pun kalau lalai mmg itulah kesannya

isunye suruh cari penyelesian, parents skarang semua bz
bukan cikgu je bz
tak paham aku
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:16 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 posted on 23-7-2013 02:08 PM
Dlm kes ni, sgt rare. Never heard this disease in Malaysia. Psl tu buat apa kita nak bahaskan baha ...

just because takda case in malaysia, you can't go on and on about this things tak happened ok? pandai berforum means celik IT, if this cases purely pasal cuai yearly beratus toddler/baby mati kat US so this is not something that is mcm UFO takda explaination.

i don't condone what had happened not only to nawal but to dirang to william and to all the jane/john does, never once! parenthood doesnt come with a manual lar, it comes with a responsibility to carry out your duty, don't also go around suruh orang jadi mcm mana kita rasa diri kita perfect. it's crazy

sama juga time monsoon pergi berkelah bawa anak2, then anak mati lemas mak tengah sibuk baring2, that is for me a clear intent to kill bila anak mati lemas perut kembung.
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:18 PM | Show all posts
sugar_rose posted on 23-7-2013 02:03 PM
lain kali tanya tu biar spesifik lepas tu aasume orang memahami apa yang dimaksudkannya, soalan  ...

takda kaitan saya tak pernai cuai atau perfect, sama dengan awak bagi statement tak spesifik semua orang pernah cuai. kenyataan awak tak spesifik maka soalan saya tak spesifik.

Nonetheless, what does me, not being perfect have anything to do with this? Adakah sbb saya tak perfect dan pernah cuai, maka kalau saya berada di situasi yang sama saya akan lakukan kesilapan yg serupa? If it is too easy to commit something like this, dah tentu ada berpuluh atau beratus kes macam ni di malaysia. tapi tak pun? We are in a forum, bukan kat dalam mahkamah nak kena ada fakta kes lengkap bagai. Kita cuma observe dari pattern/behavior/situation dalam masayarakat dan apa yang dilaporkan media. Bukan satu je media yg lapor dan cerita semua konsisten. And?

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Post time 23-7-2013 02:18 PM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 23-7-2013 02:16 PM
just because takda case in malaysia, you can't go on and on about this things tak happened ok? pan ...

Percayalah, knowing how Malaysians are, dgn discovernya penyakit ni, semakin ramai umat di Malaysia yg cuai jaga anak akan guna hujah sakit mental block utk justify their action.
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:21 PM | Show all posts
SulurBidar posted on 23-7-2013 02:10 PM
Jgn layan kalau ada cikgu bermentaliti sebegitu rupa..

Mereka yg menyalahkan kerjaya akibat kes ...

Itulah...sbb yg aku nmpk byk merungut nih adalah dari kalangan guru2 yg bukan minat sgt kejer guru tp sbb last choice...itu je yg ade offer time byk kekosongan. Plak tu set2 ni jenis datang dari Kolej2 Universiti je, OUM bagai so bukan ade kualiti sgt & bila kejer bg beban sket mulalah menyalak terbeban kehulu terbeban kehilir... Bende ni dulu tak timbul masa aku sbg murid / pelajar....beza kualiti guru2 dulu & skrg walaupun yg diploma je ramai, tp yg penting bersungguh2 mengajar tak mengira penat lelah demi anak2 bangsa...



Skrg dah lain...sume nak gaji besar kononnya nak kena berbaloi dgn kejer. Gaji skrg masih tak berbaloikah??? Kejer skrg hebat sgt kah??? Gaji bg besar mana pun takkan cukup sbb bila gi sekolah masing2 nak bersaing...balik umah bersaing dgn jiran2 nak gitau guru kaya, kat sekolah bersaing keter sape paling mahal...ini realiti zaman skrg. Sbb tu gegeh nak gaji besar sbb nak bersaing dgn jwtn2 lain yg mmg gaji lg besar...





Btul2 betapa ramainya guru berminda pprt zaman skrg memalukan profesyen perguruan saja mereka ittew plus set2 guru yg dlm otak hanya pikir duit bisnez nak kaya all the times...kwn aku sorang mmg konfem mcmtu, main forex ternak lintah ternak keli ternak babi ternak segala2 sampai penah buru cicak tokek sbb punya laaaa nak kaya...
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:22 PM | Show all posts
sugar_rose posted on 23-7-2013 12:38 PM
ada kes pembantu rumah di bebaskan sebab kecuaian sampai anak majikan mati, tak silap saya anak tu ...

comparison kesah maid dukung anak terjatuh ni takleh compare la ngan kes ni..ibarat ko compare oren ngan durian gituu..
kalo maid tu dukung pastu sengaja hempaskan budak tu mmg sahlah kes bunuh..tapi kalau terjatuh pasal tersepak batu ke etc..dah jadi kes lain

kes maid yg ko mention tu maybe samalah ibaratnya si ibu drive keta bawak anak skali dlm keta,pastu accident dan anaknya mati...indirect effect..

dalam kes ini, mmg terang2 si ibu lupa, dan cuai..thats it..no other elements directly causing it....

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Post time 23-7-2013 02:28 PM | Show all posts
PitMie posted on 23-7-2013 02:21 PM
Itulah...sbb yg aku nmpk byk merungut nih adalah dari kalangan guru2 yg bukan minat sgt kejer guru ...

Aku setuju dgn pendapat ko..

Habis grad.. nak keja kat bidang lain, tak berani.. takut dgn rentak kerja masa kini dan tidak berdaya saing..
Nak masuk swasta, takut kena pecat sebab dah diri tu pemalas dan lemah mindanya serta tidak lasak utk mengikut budaya persekitaran kerja sektor swasta yg lebih kompetetif..

Akhir sekali tunggu KPLI dan masuk terus mohon jadik cikgu...

Maka spesis mental PPRT inilah yg telah membuatkan kerjaya guru semakin dipandang rendah lagi low - class..


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Post time 23-7-2013 02:28 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 posted on 23-7-2013 02:18 PM
Percayalah, knowing how Malaysians are, dgn discovernya penyakit ni, semakin ramai umat di Malaysi ...

bukan malaysian jer peter tetapi secara umum mmg ramai yg mcm tu, short term jer semua ni.satu yg bagus ramai yg prihatin, but then again kita boleh berkempen bagai at the end of the day we do not know WHAT really happened to them days before it came to such end. this is a trajedi waiting to happened.

but I do have to agree to what my hubby nya observations, agaknya dah pernah buat jadi terbiasa.waluahualam, Allah juga yg mengetahui

that day pergi PARAM, ada budak terlari2 cari parents dia, terus dia panjat motor and pakai helmet - maybe that was taught to her, kalau hilang in a crowd pergi kat motor tu and tunggu

me and hubby waited with her till parents dia sampai - it took them 1 hour to realize anak dorang missing, param tu bukanya besar mana pun Last edited by OsHiN_hOnEy on 23-7-2013 02:30 PM

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Post time 23-7-2013 02:31 PM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 23-7-2013 02:28 PM
bukan malaysian jer peter tetapi secara umum mmg ramai yg mcm tu, short term jer semua ni.satu yg  ...

ure not the only one seeing negligence parents..many of us here already jotted down near same experience...irresponsible parents do exist!

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Post time 23-7-2013 02:33 PM | Show all posts
. guru juga ibu, guru juga kerani, guru juga doktor, guru juga polis, guru juga peguam,.. pendek kata guru serba boleh sehinggakan anak-anak guru sendiri terabai.



Pergghhhh...kalimat2 ni paling kerap aku dengar dari cikgu2 & yg paling tak bleh blah bg aku...paling aku hangin cikgu2 perasan mengaku diri diorglah doktor, polis, peguam, hakim dll semata2 dlm kejer seharian terkdg ade unsur mcm polis mcm peguam...sdgkan kalau tanya bab Acts & Laws ape jadah pun taktau! Kalau mengaku peguam sebut Habeas Corpus pun konfem mampos takleh jwb...kalau mengaku doktor tanya istilah paling simple 'pyrexia' pun tobat lahum taktau...apetah lg kalau sebut cephalhaematoma or caput succedaneum...nama2 medication kalau Amoxicilin ke..Erythromycin ke...Cefuroxim ke...konfem ternganga.



Cikgu2 oiii, sejak bila korang penah diiktiraf atau di'acknowledge sbg doktor sbg peguam sbg hakim dll??? Jgn perasan lah polis kalau setakat tangkap budak2 isap rokok dlm toilet...toksah berangan bagai peguam lah kalau Locus Standi pun taktau mende...toksah berangan bagai doktor lah kalau setakat rawat murid luka2 kecil time sukan....mmg adehhhh sungguh dgn cikgu2 perasan bagus gini!
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:35 PM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 23-7-2013 02:28 PM
bukan malaysian jer peter tetapi secara umum mmg ramai yg mcm tu, short term jer semua ni.satu yg  ...

To be honest with you tahap kesedaran umat Malaysia ni ttg better parenting msh ditahap lemah. That is why I'm not realy buying those mental block konon2 kena kat para parents yg kes anak2 mati kes kecuaian parents. Cuba buat kat negara barat, biarkan anak rayau sana sini tanpa pantauan guardian/parents. Tgk apa jd. Salah2 anak kena amik antar ke temp house. Tp kat Malaysia ni, msh ramai juga yg buat. Takde sapa nak kesah.

My neighbour kat Tingkat 1, biarkan 2 anak kecik dirmh without guardian. Main api nyaris terbakar satu buidling apartment. Klu bukan quick thinking another jiran mgkn kami residents tinggal sehelai sepinggang.
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:37 PM | Show all posts
SulurBidar posted on 23-7-2013 02:28 PM
Aku setuju dgn pendapat ko..

Habis grad.. nak keja kat bidang lain, tak berani.. takut  ...

hahahah!! ex officemate aku berenti kerja kat ofis tak tahan dgn tekanan kerja di ofis. Masuk apply jd cikgu. Skrg dah cikgu, katannya lbh senang kerja jd cikgu dr kerja kat ofis. Itu dia kata, bukan aku. Aku hanguk saja
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:41 PM | Show all posts
aku malas nak quote mana2...biar masing2 faham sendiri...

kalo bekerja utk dapat gaji ujung bulan nak bagi makan keluarga, beli henbeg baru, beli cincin, beli baju baru, beli biskut raya tu dah tak best lagi dan byk merungut dari melepaskan rasa syukur ada kerja, lebih baik la org tu resign jer dari kerja dia sekarang...

waima keja cikgu ka, majistret ka, lawyer, peguam,penyanyi, pelakon sekalipun...

if u dont enjoy of what u are doing, segala2nya jadi tak ikhlas dan jadi stress (bebanan) pada diri sendiri..

sekiang....
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:43 PM | Show all posts
SulurBidar posted on 23-7-2013 02:28 PM
Aku setuju dgn pendapat ko..

Habis grad.. nak keja kat bidang lain, tak berani.. takut  ...

Itulah...kerjaya guru yg begitu mulia kini semakin dicemari perangai guru2 yg semakin hazab...semakin kejar harta berbanding kerjaya, sbb tu kat tempat aku bini aku bgtau yg Pegawai JPN baru je tegur guru2 yg kuat berbisnes di sekolah masing2...mmg berbisnes di sekolah dari kalangan cikgu bukan pelik lg dah, boleh kata setiap sekolah mesti ade at least 3-4 cikgu kaki niaga kaki MLM kaki cari duit mcm2 cara...



Sbnrnya perangai cikgu2 zaman skrg lah menyebabkan cikgu2 skrg kena lahar kaw2 kat sini...sbb kalau tgk betapa dangkalnya komen2 guru2 ttg kes ni yg cuba mengaitkan beban tugas dgn kecuaian melampau si ibu, mmg sah guru2 bermental gini takkan gi jauh...dok situ je la dlm bilik guru bergossip bende2 takde pekdah itu ini...sgt pprt you know Semuanya kerana sikap, bukan kerana kerjaya guru...kerjaya tetap mulia, tp perangai ramai yg hazab





Sama la mcm Man Utd..aku tak menyampah dgn club nih sbb dulu penah sokong Man Utd jap, tp kerana sikap taksub nak mampos fan2 MU lah menyebabkan aku menyampah dgn MU (serta fan2nya)...sori off topic sket
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Post time 23-7-2013 02:50 PM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 23-7-2013 02:08 PM
yes, and then again what we got from the mainstream media is just bits and pieces not even close t ...

sebenarnya cerita yg kita baca juga laced with sentiments, especially when it is mentioned 'maha busy kerja cikgu bertimbun tahap everest', tapi meeting start pukul 11 atau 11.30 ke ntah lepas tu mak tu mengajar. i can't imagine kalau mak ni kena bergegas sana sini pagi2 buta mcm sesetengah orang.

kes yg dismissed sebagai disebabkan mental block ni ialah memang orang yg ada documented history of mental blocks sebelum kejadian. kalau tak, memang hidup yang lebih busy cause more forgetfulness, but she's not the only one busy in this world. berdasarkan situasi, adakah mak ini ada documented short-term amnesia? we'll wait.

ni lagi tips utk bagi parents ingat anak ada dalam kereta dr komen kat link DM tu:

There's an easy way to remember that you have your child in the car: add a carabiner clip to your keys or bag, and attach a toy to it that's too big to ignore until you've dropped him off. When you remove it, place it in the car seat or back seat until you pick him up. No toy? No child. Make it a habit, and a rule for everyone who cares for your child. On the subject of "out of sight, out of mind": children below a certain height/weight are more likely to be killed or severely injured if they're in the front seat of a car, whether they're in a child seat or not. Infants are likewise at risk if they're seated facing forward in a child seat in the back, hence the rear-facing seats. Anyone who says it's best to ignore the law and keep the children up front is inviting disaster because, while you may be a safe driver, you have no control over others. I've seen firsthand the aftermath of having a too-small child in the front seat during a crash - he didn't see his 4th birthday.
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