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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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Fuzzman playing dumb again. Ahahahahahahahha..............
cheers |
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Still undone yet? Well, what can we do if the Prophet saw. married to a 9-yr-old kid? It happened some 1400 yrs ago where culture is totally different from the modern days. Too bad, you guys are not gifted with the power to change history. The most impt. thing is their marriage is legalised.
But even the ancient culture is totally different but still we're more barbarians than the ancient people despite of our advanced technology, our proper education (the ethical values & morals etc introduced in schools & universities & media) & etc. Most of the times, we lose our rationality & senses - we can't distinguish what's evil & good things. 13Friday is one good example.  lollol:lol
[ Last edited by Baiduri Othman at 9-10-2005 11:51 AM ] |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 9-10-2005 11:45 AM
Still undone yet? Well, what can we do if the Prophet saw. married to a 9-yr-old kid? It happened some 1400 yrs ago where culture is totally different from the modern days. Too bad, you guys are not gifted with the power to change history. The most impt. thing is their marriage is legalised.
Yes the most important fact here is that Bukhari's narratives say with explicit clarity of the LEGALISED marriage between the prophet and Ayeshah. Bukhari has not mentioned in Debmey's manner of the prophet having SEX in such dirty manner. That is something the likes of Debmey will never admit to.
Just like we have no qualms to prophet Jesus having a relationship with a whore named Mary Magdalene. Or attest to the fact that prophet Jesus and her had intimate kissing bouts. Or the fact that Jesus refused the stoning judgment on her by making the infamous call of - "if those of you who are without sin, then cast the first stone. Jesus was smart for he knew that no man is without sin. No matter how big or small. Therefore by making that statement he reversed the guilt and responsibility back upon the men who came for Mary. Just washed his hands with ease. Smart strategy eh? So do we Moslems have qualms with Jesus for letting off a whore whom he likes? Do we Moslems get all rowdy and go knock on the Vatican's door to get an open global condemnation of that act of whore rescue? Or do we Moslems make a big ruckus by playing up the issue and pinning prophet Jesus with the whore lover tag? Or do we Moslems JUDGE PROPHET JESUS'S WHORE RESCUE BY TODAY'S LAWS? If we did, prophet Jesus would be up for abetting prostitutes. Would we Moslems do that? A big no of course!
ARI FUZZMAN
[ Last edited by Fuzzman at 9-10-2005 08:18 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 9-10-2005 12:05 PM
Yes the most important fact here is that Bukhari's narratives say with explicit clarity of the LEGALISED marriage between the prophet and Ayeshah. Bukhari ...
Yesssss Fuzzman! I read a book written by a Christian mentioning that Jesus had sex with Mary Magdalene before he was crucified on the Cross. How could someone immoral be a Saviour, a Messiah & a God? Why no one questions abt it? Of course, it's a different case with Prophet Muhammad saw. He's only a God Messenger who happened to be very honest & his marriages to his wives are legalised. He's someone with good akhlak that qualified him to be a God Messenger. God would not choose someone immoral to be His Messenger. What more to say someone to be a Saviour, a Messiah & a God to be worshipped????
BTW Fuzzman, Happy Ramadhan to you. Semoga segala amalan & ibadah kita mendpt berkat & diterima Allah swt. hendaknya. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 9-10-2005 08:20 AM
Fuzzman playing dumb again. Ahahahahahahahha..............cheers
Ahahahaha me playing dumb? A-yo les Debbo la Diablo, you should ask yourself that question aight.
Let's milk your cow dry Debmey. So did Bukhari say Mohamad had "sex with a nine year old" as you make it sound so dirty or did Bukhari say that Mohammad was married to Ayeshah? Which one Debmey? Which one? Ahahahaha.
ARI FUZZMAN |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 9-10-2005 11:45 AM
Still undone yet? Well, what can we do if the Prophet saw. married to a 9-yr-old kid? It happened some 1400 yrs ago where culture is totally different from the modern days. Too bad, you guys are no ...
Good for you, so you do admit that mo indeed had sex witha 9 year old aisha.
Thats what exactly is recorded in the hadiths.
However, many muslims took it as a moral model and married young girls, thats the problem |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 9-10-2005 09:26 PM
Good for you, so you do admit that mo indeed had sex witha 9 year old aisha.
Thats what exactly is recorded in the hadiths.
However, many muslims took it as a moral model and married young ...
Yeah, that's right. At least their marriage is legitimate & legalised rather than having sex out of wedlocks. Furthermore, he's a human. Unlike Jesus the God, he had sexual intercourse with Mary Magdalene. How could God had sex & committed fornication? God is supposed to be different from human beings. God doesn't have any desire like the creatures He created.
[ Last edited by Baiduri Othman at 9-10-2005 11:16 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 9-10-2005 09:26 PM
Good for you, so you do admit that mo indeed had sex witha 9 year old aisha.
Thats what exactly is recorded in the hadiths. However, many muslims took it as a moral model and married young girls, thats the problem.
The hadiths recorded Prophet Mohammad as being married to Ayeshah. Nothing close to what you describe of it. For a so-called successful Evangelist with the self-professed ability of turning new converts to Evangelism, you seem to be not only paranoid but write rubbish most of the time.
Child brides exist in many world cultures and that is a fact. So why be focal on Arabic culture only? If you can proof that child brides do not have a place in social culture pre and present Mohammadian era anywhere in the world at that time, then only you just might have something worth teethering about. Can you prove this beyond any doubt? Child brides exist in pre-Islamic Arabic lands and they are prevalent in Medieval Europe too. So what rubbish are you trying to sell here?
Quit talking about morals if you cannot prove prophet Mohammad to be a paedophile. Untl today you cannot provide one single proof to support your paedo accusation, only narratives from Bukhari about the prophet's mariage to Ayeshah.
Let me help you out again. Try this question for size. As far as you know IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A HOMOSEXUAL?
ARI FUZZMAN
[ Last edited by Fuzzman at 10-10-2005 02:43 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 9-10-2005 11:15 PM
Yeah, that's right. At least their marriage is legitimate & legalised rather than having sex out of wedlocks. Furthermore, he's a human. Unlike Jesus the God, he had sexual intercourse with ...
So you are saying that paedophilia is good just because you solemnise it? I think its worst than fornication. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2005 10:51 AM
So you are saying that paedophilia is good just because you solemnise it? I think its worst than fornication.
You call that paedophilia where child brides were normal during those days? Furthermore, the marriage is a legalised & a legitimate one. Unlike your Jesus - He's God but he had sexual intercourse ie. committed fornication whereas your Holy Bible clearly mentioned that fornication & adultery is not allowed. Just b'coz he thinks he's God, he can do anything he wants. That's very ODD! |
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Thats right, its immoral and people back then didn't know better, but its still paedophilia no doubt. And Moham,ad had set an example for muslims thereafter, thats the problem.
Did Jesus have sexual intercourse? Are you having halucination again? |
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No, HE DID NOT!!! Did the Prophet issue a FATWA that Muslim men shd wed underage children? Did he? Any evidence???
Why ask me whether Jesus did have sexual intercourse. I'm not the one writing the book on Jesus committed fornication with Mary Magdalene. Like you too, I'd love to believe that it's based on true accounts. |
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Well, we all know that Mohamad did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha according to the ahdiths. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2005 05:18 PM
Well, we all know that Mohamad did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha according to the ahdiths.
Yes, to his legitimate wife of course. |
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legitimate but still paedophilic.
Just like canibalism was legitimate among Amazon tribes back then. At least teh tribes don't do it anymore. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2005 10:10 PM
legitimate but still paedophilic.
Just like canibalism was legitimate among Amazon tribes back then. At least teh tribes don't do it anymore.
Well, at least he's not God but an ordinary human being. You can't blame his culture. Unlike your God, he had sexual intercourse ie. committed fornication with Mary Magdalene before he was crucified on the cross. Ironically, fornication & adultery is not allowed as clearly mentioned in your Bible. Maybe b'coz he's God, he has no sins & so he can do what he likes. Or maybe it's God's culture. Guess I can't blame him for committing fornication in the 1st place. Ahaks....... |
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First of all, Mo committed paedophilia, you may call it legitimate, its still paedophilia.
Secondly, if yuou say that Jesus had sex, the imams will not be very happy with you. There are no mention of such a thing at all in the Bible nor quran. |
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Debmey,you can't deny the cultural norms back then.It was common back then so theres no fuss about it.Like i mention before the age of marriage consent 10 to 13 is common in 19th century and 14 to 17 during our grandmother or mother times.Do you deny that?Since the age of consent has been raised to 18 in most countries today,so do you called anyone who marriage under 18 in the 60's or 70's a pedophile too eventhough they are legally married?:hmm: |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2005 11:56 PM
First of all, Mo committed paedophilia, you may call it legitimate, its still paedophilia. Secondly, if yuou say that Jesus had sex, the imams will not be very happy with you. There are no mention of such a thing at all in the Bible nor quran.
First of all Debmey and the likes of whom belong in his species do not know what means a paedophile and refuse to explain the mental conditions of one. Secondly he refused acknowledgement that child brides exist in most pre-Islamic and Medieval Europe. Thirdly Jesus is not known to have sex with Mary Magdelene, but then again ..Jesus definately loves whores. He had too as Mary Magdelene was a whore and had saved her from stoning.
So by today's standards, Debmey should openly accept active or "retired" whores as active female parish or clergy. And also to show allegience to the fact of Jesus' whore loving, all Christians should either keep one in the house or legitimise prostitutes as part of the Christian culture. Now does that make any sense. Do Moslems go all out asking for that of Christians? Definately no as we do not question the doings of Prophet Jesus, unlike Christians who question the legitimate marriage of Prophet Mohammad to Ayeshah.
So tell me Debmey, is Prophet Mohammad a homosexual from what little you know?
ARI FUZZMAN |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 13-10-2005 12:20 AM
Debmey,you can't deny the cultural norms back then.It was common back then so theres no fuss about it.Like i mention before the age of marriage consent 10 to 13 is common in 19th ce ...
Canibalism was also common among amazonians.
Paganism was also common among Arabs then.
Perhaps paedophilia too.
Get the point? |
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Post time 9-10-2005 08:20 AM
