[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 16-9-2005 12:22 PM


Good question but what do you expect the answers from a moron?

I have no choice I agree. If they are not moron they will not make accusation base on nothing especially person like Truth8 and Debmey
:setuju::setuju::setuju::setuju::setuju:

Fuzzman

Originally posted by KENNKID at 16-9-2005 11:30 AM
Very well  said Fuzz. :clap::clap::clap:

Thanks Kennkid. I've been reading stuff from Ali Sina's website at faithfreedom.org and I find Ali Sina to be a very disturbed ex-Moslem who needs cleansing. In part of his site he is willing to a pay-off of US50,000.00 to anyone who could  prove our dear prophet to be something as not so accused to be found on his website. Now ironically one of those points included the paedo issue currently discussed here.

Since I know you to be resourceful and most gifted amongst all our brothers here, I implore you to invite by your cunning, Ali Sina into this forum and please let all of the displeased Moslems that visit his site, know of us here. It is time we carried the fight to them. The Christians are saying they fight terrorism that has an Islamic root while I say we fight their originating religious terrorism through our collective resourcefulness and strength of faith. And by Allah we shall overpower, overcome the venom that divides the Ummah today. I look upon you as one of the very first of many brothers to follow that will rise to the occasion to defend our prophet and the religion that we be in now, for believe me dear brother, when Judgement Day comes it is the Jews and the Moslems who will be united with the Second Coming. Please do the needed if you be able.

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

So nobody disputes the Bukhari records that Muhamad had sex with Aoisha when she was only 9 years old. Very good. We can all agree on that.

cheers

karengkang

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 16-9-2005 10:53 AM



Dude , u forgot my question

1- what is standard specific mature age worldwide since Muhammad?
2- what is standard specific mature age for Christian since ur so call jesus?

What benchma ...

i bet none of those moron can answer ur question brO....
:cak::cak::cak::cak:

sonny~~

page 41?
wow  :cak:

sonny~~

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 16-9-2005 10:53 AM



Dude , u forgot my question

1- what is standard specific mature age worldwide since Muhammad?
2- what is standard specific mature age for Christian since ur so call jesus?

What benchma ...

me have given the answers looonnngg time ago n me gotta dig it up agin if it's still there

but to put it in nutshell -

after muhammad era n durin victorian days, the standard mature marriage age for christians is 7

durin jesus era, the standard mature marriage age for for jews is 3  

peace

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 16-9-2005 10:45 PM
So nobody disputes the Bukhari records that Muhamad had sex with Aoisha when she was only 9 years old. Very good. We can all agree on that.
cheers

We you say? Seems to me your "we" is more correctly just you on your own! I don't blame you for being able to "pluralise" your singularity as you 've done it so easily with God's singularity. LOL

So maestro hotshot, tell me in simple words the originating source for Hisham and Urwa's narrative on the age of Aishah's marriage? Wave me a white flag if you smell a stalemate cooking aight!

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

So you do not agree with Al Bukhari? Al Bukhari not authentic?

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 17-9-2005 10:37 PM
So you do not agree with Al Bukhari? Al Bukhari not authentic?  

LOL I was expecting this move much more earlier in the thread but you somehow managed to hang on by teethers longer then expected, before eventually deploying it now. You were looking for a response from me that was going to bail you out of your poor no contest. You were looking for an excuse to give me a backlash into my own yard but sadly enough you aren't Katrina, let alone Category One.  

So what was it that you were in the midst of deploying? It's called MISDIRECTION. You cannot provide me with proofs to show my prophet to be a paedo and so you try to traverse attention another way. Won't work sport. Why not you try roping in Ali Sina, the really mentally disturbed ex-Moslem to double team kickstart your effort? When the going gets tough, the tough gets going, but with you it's different. When the going gets tough on you, you  quickly look for a escape plan or the nearest rock that you can go hide your halo-ed head in.

So do I agree with Bukhari? Of course I do and very overwhelmingly at that too? Is Bukhari authentic? Of course all the way ace! I wouldn't dream of questioning the authenticity of what Bukhari recorded as after all it was agreed upon by all concerned.  So what was it that I asked of you?  Was I asking you something that has got to do with Bukhari or somebody else?  So maestro hotshot,can you tell me in simple words the originating source for Hisham and Urwa's narrative on the age of Aishah's marriage as reported and recorded to Bukhari?

Can you do it or do you need to get some serious help from Ali Sina? I think Divine Ponytail should rightfully come to your aid in your hour of dire need instead of remaining silent on the sidelines while you crawl in agony all on your lonesome. Man talk about teamsport? LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Looks like you have no answer to the clear evidence from Al Bukhari that Mo indeed had sex with Asiha when she was only 9 years old then.

So you do not agree with Al Bukhari? Al Bukhari not authentic?

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2005 11:03 AM
Looks like you have no answer to the clear evidence from Al Bukhari that Mo indeed had sex with Asiha when she was only 9 years old then.

Looks like you do not have the answer as to originating source of Hisham and his father's age narrative of Aishah. If you had, then it would have solved your probelms. Strange that you stick to Bukhari and ignore the other chain narrators?

So where is the source? Was it originating from Medinah or Iraq? Clearly shows you are only good for cut and pasting things you do not understand. Anything goes just as long as it defames the prophet aight? LOL.

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

So you are saying that Bukhari is not valid lah. Ahahahahahahahahaha.........................

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2005 09:12 PM
So you are saying that Bukhari is not valid lah. Ahahahahahahahahaha.........................

Of course without a doubt whatsoever Bukhari is valid. If you're looking for entrapment, it ain't working here! So what do you think? Is Bukhari valid to you?

ARI FUZZMAN

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Debmey

Good then. Al Bukhari records clearly says that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was only 9 years old.

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-9-2005 01:55 AM
Good then. Al Bukhari records clearly says that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was only 9 years old.

Good then too for you, as we all agree that Bukhari is a master hadith recorder prominent over the chain of narrators. So is Bukhari valid to you in every way?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Al Bukhari recorded that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was only nine.
Is Bukhari valid on this point? There is no reason to doubt.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-9-2005 09:28 PM
Al Bukhari recorded that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was only nine.
Is Bukhari valid on this point? There is no reason to doubt.

No doubt to doubt but then again you haven't answered my question to you. Is Bukhari valid to you with regards to narrative accounts?

ARI FUZZMAN

sonny~~

dont c no bukhari or rabbi or bishop who wanna say child marriage is paedophillia  

peace

Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Our Rabbis taught: It is related of Justinia17  the daughter of 'Aseverus son of Antonius that she once appeared before Rabbi 'Master', she said to him, 'at what age may a woman marry?'. 'At the age of three years and one day', he told her.

Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Niddah

Currently accepted values are also overtly contrasted to past United States legislation, which was not altered until 1889. The age of consent in most states was as young as ten, with Delaware stipulating a mere age seven. Some laws still in force today show an unusual attempt to control sex lives, with Washington DC prohibiting sex in any position other than missionary

History of Sex and Love


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Debmey

We just have to agree that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old. You can call it anything byu want, i call it paedophilia.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 21-9-2005 08:39 AM
We just have to agree that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old. You can call it anything byu want, i call it paedophilia.

Personal views with no proven backup will not exactly make believers out of anyone with a functioning brain and a thinking intellect. You are familiar with the "situation on the field" aren't you? I ask you again. Is Bukhari valid to narrative accounts with regards to Aishah?

ARI FUZZMAN