[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Debmey

You see, you are stuck already because you have asked a ridiculous question. There weren't any world standard on anything during Mo's time. Including human scarifices like jihad.

Mo had sex with a 9 year old. Go figure my frens. Go look at a 9 year old.

Originally posted by Debmey at 13-9-2005 02:20 PM
You see, you are stuck already because you have asked a ridiculous question. There weren't any world standard on anything during Mo's time. Including human scarifices like jihad.

Mo had sex wit ...

Twisting things  again so that they match your perverted and crooked standards.

Debmey

How did I twist anything? I am only stataing facts. Mo did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha as recorded in the Hadiths.

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Debmey at 13-9-2005 02:20 PM
You see, you are stuck already because you have asked a ridiculous question. There weren't any world standard on anything during Mo's time. Including human scarifices like jihad.

Mo had sex wit ...

U say there is no standard? Am I right? So ur accusation base on what? Base on ur A**?:cak::cak::cak::cak:

Dude did u know that there is law about drink and drive . And for that law there is a benchmark , sort like how many ** unit ? (I am not sure the exact unit. They will not simply accuse u .

Originally posted by Debmey at 13-9-2005 02:42 PM
How did I twist anything? I am only stataing facts. Mo did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha as recorded in the Hadiths.

Twisting things to fit to your Christian standards. Show this and share it with your beloved catholic bible class students:

A GROUP of US victims of sex abuse at the hands of Catholic priests have named five potential papal candidates they say are "morally unacceptable" to be the next Pope.

The Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (Snap) released the list today, three days ahead of the keenly-anticipated start of the conclave at which a successor to the late Pope John Paul II will be chosen.

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The group earlier this week protested in Rome to express outrage that a US cardinal who resigned in disgrace after failing to discipline priests who sexually abused children was chosen to lead a memorial mass for Pope John Paul II.
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:mll:http://www.sundaytelegraph.news. ... 873647-1702,00.html

Debmey

Thata right sir, Christian are against paedophilia, Muslims aren't. In this case the paedophilia of Mo.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 14-9-2005 12:30 AM
Thata right sir, Christian are against paedophilia, Muslims aren't. In this case the paedophilia of Mo.

Fuzzman's favorite proverb:-
YOU CAN BRING A DONKEY TO A TROUGH OF WATER BUT YOU CANNOT FORCE IT TO DRINK FROM IT.

ARI FUZZMAN

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Debmey at 14-9-2005 12:30 AM
Thata right sir, Christian are against paedophilia, Muslims aren't. In this case the paedophilia of Mo.

Christian against paedophilia? Ki ki , in ur dreams dude.

So can u provide us christian mature age since Jesus?

Debmey

Where is it written in the Bible that God endorses paedophilia?

Is there mature age for sex in Quran?

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Debmey at 14-9-2005 12:27 PM
Where is it written in the Bible that God endorses paedophilia?

Is there mature age for sex in Quran?

In Islam age of mature (baligh) from person to person. It is normal .

Bagi kanak‑kanak perempuan 9/10 tahun dan 13/14 tahun bagi kanak‑kanak lelaki. Syarat utama untuk menentukan baligh dilihat dari lima perkara, tiga perkara bagi lelaki iaitu mimpi keluar air mani, pertumbuhan fizikal (tubuh badan) clan suara bertukar kasar. Manakala dua perkara, bagi wanita ialah datang haid dan mengandung.

Sabda Rasulullah bermaksud: 揥ahai Asma', perempuan apabila meningkat umur haid (umur baligh), tidak boleh dilihat padanya kecuali ini dan ini.

Debmey

person to person? Meaning to say Quran have no standard lah. Thats teh problem.
No wonder Aisha became barren and developed psychological problems even at a young age.

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Debmey at 14-9-2005 05:20 PM
person to person? Meaning to say Quran have no standard lah. Thats teh problem.
No wonder Aisha became barren and developed psychological problems even at a young age.

Dude u sort like saying there is standard specific  mature age from Jesus.  So where is it?:cak::cak::cak::cak::cak::cak:

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 13-9-2005 02:42 PM
How did I twist anything? I am only stataing facts. Mo did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha as recorded in the Hadiths.

You say you "state facts as recorded in Hadiths"? No probelm ace. Did the Hadiths say word for word  that the prophet had sex with nine year old Aishah?

I see you have a probelm with providing evidence from a legitimate Christian source -i.e. the Vatican - let alone any Middle-Eastern edict that openly persecutes prophet Mohammad as a confirmed paedophile. If you cannot prove anything here, why then do you keep on making stupid uneducated accusations towards the prophet?

For a person bent on nailing the prophet of Islam to a cross through true justice, what you have managed thus far is just putting my prophet to trials of blind persecution and gross injustice. How? You only keep jibbering your own personal views that are in no way parallel to available evidences that point to the prophet being a paedophile

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Can't be clearer than that sir.

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Fuzzman

That's the probelm with people like you. You try tinkering with Bukhari with the hope that you might land something in your favor but alas you always end up short changed most the times. C'mon Debmey prove you have what it takes to make the shot. Stop quoting Bukhari per se and get on with the gritty part of saying something DEBMEY. If your mind is wobbling you numb on what I want, well, here's the skinny. For once why don't you act intelligently by facing me off one on one for all my replies. Hell yeah,everyone here knows you normally avoid that kind of intel contact for fear that people might think that you're some fake stupid wearing a smart mask! Know what? Sometimes [make that most the times] I think YOU DO? C'mon Debmey stop hiding behind cut & pastes or empty one liners that make you sound so zombie-sh. To ascend that feat is excruciatingly simple. Just come up with the numbers to crunch your argument of my prophet being a paedo.

Bukhari vol. 7, #65 would most definately solve Heckler's confusion about the truth relation between the prophet and Aishah because in it clearly mentions a MARRIAGE CONTRACT and subsequent marriage. As for this argument you cannot and probably never will be able to make the paedo accusation stick, because you would look like a complete idiot to be telling elderly men who wed young girls that they are paedos for consumating a legitimate marriage rite.
SO WHERE IS THE PROOF OF PAEDOPHILIA FOR PROPHET MOHAMMAD? WHERE?

Secondly you ave yet to show me the source of origin from whence transpired the true age of Aishah. Hisham ibn Urwa and his father Urwa may have narrated the age of Aishah but their narratives are probelmatic as their age narrative of Aishah has no other substantial chain of narrators to back Hisham and his father who incidentally only made the age clarification while after the shift back to Iraq. So what happened to narratives of Aishah in the early years while in Medinah? Like to drag on more but just do not have the time. To make matters gistful, why not you tell me from whence come the source of Hisham and his father's [Urwa] narratives?

ARI FUZZMAN

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Debmey at 15-9-2005 01:18 AM
Can't be clearer than that sir.

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated hi ...

Dude , u forgot my question

1- what is standard specific mature age worldwide since Muhammad?
2- what is standard specific mature age for Christian since ur so call jesus?

What benchmark u use to define pedophilia?

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 15-9-2005 09:36 PM
That's the probelm with people like you. You try tinkering with Bukhari with the hope that you might land something in your favor but alas you always end up ...

Very well  said Fuzz. :clap::clap::clap:

Debmey

You wanted proofs that Muhamad had sex with Aisha when she was only 9 years. I showed you just two records from Bukhari.

It doesn't matter if you don't call that paedophilia. Others will.

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Gravedigger

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 16-9-2005 10:53 AM



Dude , u forgot my question

1- what is standard specific mature age worldwide since Muhammad?
2- what is standard specific mature age for Christian since ur so call jesus?

What benchma ...

Good question but what do you expect the answers from a moron?

Truth.8

Muhammad who is 50++++ get so tempted and sexually arosed after seeing little 6yrs old aisha playing with her dolls. Later he came with shocking news that allah gave him permission to marry aisha;)