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[Pelbagai] [ILMU MUDAH]: DNA AND THE FUTURE; who are you by then? What do you think?

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Post time 6-6-2020 01:49 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 6-6-2020 06:15 AM
ha ha tahu pun. identical twins adalah kerana genes nya 100% ( in theory.. we know there are other ...

tu yang kalau one of them buat crime...boleh lepas walau ada DNA proof sebab tak tahu which one dunnit...
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Post time 8-6-2020 02:18 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by izwan_izi at 8-6-2020 02:22 AM

Okeh...klon..

Bagaimana roh dimasukkan ke dalam klon tu..?

Adakah manusia ni sebenarnya bio-mechanics dari peradaban angkasa lepas..
Contohnya..
fungsi darah = hydraulic oil
otak = HDD dan processor
buah pinggang = micro filter
jantung = booster pump
Pankreas = Alternator

Sy bukan doktor mcm tt..tapi sy mechanical background...kadang2 tu nmpak mcm ada persamaan pulak machineries yg kita guna dgn sistem dalam badan...

Jika klon manusia tu dapat dihidupkan, dari mana datangya roh tuu..jika roh tu hanya sebagai pemahaman manusia dlm keagamaan, sudah tentu kita ni mcm cyborg atau yg seangkatan dengannya..

Dan paling menakutkan jika kita ni sedar yg kita hanyalah produk ciptaan dari tamadun angkasa lepas..?
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 Author| Post time 8-6-2020 02:36 PM | Show all posts
KIM.K replied at 6-6-2020 09:56 AM
Aiks pandainye chuol! Misti bace konspirasi khuenn

iya, semacam Bart Simpson pernah kata, ''hmmm..cloning is a troubling issue''
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seribulan replied at 6-6-2020 01:49 PM
tu yang kalau one of them buat crime...boleh lepas walau ada DNA proof sebab tak tahu which one ...

tapi ada cara lain.. fingerprinting is one of the easier option
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 Author| Post time 8-6-2020 02:44 PM | Show all posts
izwan_izi replied at 8-6-2020 02:18 AM
Okeh...klon..

Bagaimana roh dimasukkan ke dalam klon tu..?

i like your argument very much!

yes we can have similar systems but they are not directly comparable. and yes we have our machinaries but being of the living flesh, we self-correct and self-generate allowing healing. and being of the living flesh, we also die.

where is the roh, or the soul, or the conciousness for that matter, have been the thinking points of acamedics, scientists and philosophers alike. i cant imagine a more difficult topic. do you equate the conciousness as to switching on a car? if that car has a battery in it and ready to 'wake up' ie to be switched on, is that battery its soul? now we have circulated back to my point that we are not directly comparable to a machine. from this point, i do not know where or how to continue
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Post time 8-6-2020 03:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 8-6-2020 02:44 PM
i like your argument very much!

yes we can have similar systems but they are not directly compa ...

Maybe...but..maybe laa..our civilization and technology are still lag behind from those who came from advance civ in outer space...maybe we are still primitive on their eyes.

But we should remember that present technology that human had achived right now mostly in nano tech is like a big leap in human progress.

Sekarang ni kita dh ada..dh wujud pun self healing material...contoh seperti sesetengah peralatan automotive (bumper, tayar - basic healing).. dan kajian demi kajian sedang dikembangkan melalui ikatan polimer Ch-c-c-c-h-h-cc yg berjela2 tu..

Itupun selepas hampir 200 tahun perkembangan sains dlm bidang molekular dan atom..masih lagi jauh jalan peradaban manusia untuk menghasilkan bio regenarative compound..proses pengklonan / bayi tabung uji / cancer cell adalah salah satu dari cabang kejayaan tersebut.


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Post time 8-6-2020 03:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by izwan_izi at 8-6-2020 04:00 PM

Untuk berkaitan roh tu, ade beberapa scholar pada zaman renaissance dan pra moden meletakkan org2 yg sedang nazak diatas penimbang berat. Dan pada pemerhatian mereka, selepas saja manuisa tu meninggal dunia, berat manusia tu berkurangan beberapa miligram. Adakah bermakna yg roh itu mempunyai jisim (mass) yg tertentu..?

Jika kita beranggapan yg roh dalam badan manusia ni umpama kereta yg boleh di switch on-off menggunakan bateri dan akan kaput pada sela masa yg tertentu...boleh juga diandaikan yg roh itu seperti kapasitor bank  yg menyimpan tenaga input serta output bagi kegunaan dalam suatu litar.

Kebanyakkan kajian sains melalui roh ini, seumpama menemui jalan buntu...even pihak vatican sendiri pernah menghalang mendiang stephen hawking dari mengkaji kejadian alam sebelum big bang..dan juga teknologi sains manusia masih lagi belum tahap advance untuk membicarakan roh ini...yg ada cuma hipotesis sahaja..
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Post time 8-6-2020 03:52 PM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 8-6-2020 01:37 PM
tapi ada cara lain.. fingerprinting is one of the easier option

camni ye

Ada terbaca ni...https://www.independent.co.uk/ne ... rture-a9445606.html

Is racism in our DNA?
Humans are the most connected, cooperative species on the planet and yet xenophobia and bigotry are rife. Tom Oliver explores whether or not racism is in our DNA or if it is learnt from our environment. The answer isn’t so simple
  • Wednesday 15 April 2020 23:00


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Post time 8-6-2020 03:54 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sama juga mengenai proses pengklonan itu dimana sains dan theology bertembung...

Theology mengatakan roh itu wujud dan ada dalam badan manusia..Roh dan segalanya ciptaan Tuhan.

Sains menunjukkan yg pengklonan itu boleh dilakukan tanpa ada sebarang campuran dari fahaman ke-Tuhanan...

Pening..takut...atau kita sendiri yg menjadi evil dalam dunia ini ?
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izwan_izi replied at 8-6-2020 03:34 PM
Maybe...but..maybe laa..our civilization and technology are still lag behind from those who came f ...

yes our leap in technological advancement that we see today developed only so recently that many historians and thinkers wondered if they were really ours in their entirety. War always brings out the best and strongest in man,  as well as his wosrt of course, but during and after WW@ for example, we moved so much in our jet, rocketary, medical and space technologies. Also, all of a sudden, maybe around the 70s and into the 80s, there was a revolution in semiconductors, computing and astropysics that many observers wonder if we got some hand-me-down technologies from Aliens!


Know also that, there could also be civilizations out there that could be a millenia behind us.


There has been some school of thoughts that our DNA are seedings from space and hence we are of Aliens' race. Really, who are these group that we call 'Aliens'. Could be just part of us.
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 Author| Post time 13-6-2020 04:22 AM | Show all posts
izwan_izi replied at 8-6-2020 03:45 PM
Untuk berkaitan roh tu, ade beberapa scholar pada zaman renaissance dan pra moden meletakkan org2 yg ...

i read about that weight / mass observations that you referred to. i think this particular one, of ruh and soul, is trully is a secret of The Mighty Lord. This view is in line when RSAW answered the Quraish delegation as to what is ruh.
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seribulan replied at 8-6-2020 03:52 PM
camni ye

Ada terbaca ni...https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/science-and ...

Age-old question; arent we all built to be among our own, but we are asked to be on a higher moral ground and to get to know each other
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 Author| Post time 13-6-2020 04:41 AM | Show all posts
izwan_izi replied at 8-6-2020 03:54 PM
Sama juga mengenai proses pengklonan itu dimana sains dan theology bertembung...

Theology mengata ...

tetapi cloning itu memang telah bermula dengan satu cell yang hidup. that cell lalu membalh menajdi dua cells yang hidup. cell boleh mematikan dirinya sendiri melalu cascades of molecular reaction untuk mematikan dirinya sendiri, ie apoptosis
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Post time 13-6-2020 12:54 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 13-6-2020 03:36 AM
Age-old question; arent we all built to be among our own, but we are asked to be on a higher moral ...

I can say our traits can sometimes be in our DNA@ is it due to our upbringing/sosioeconomic?-  independent trait, dependent etc
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