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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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Originally posted by Debmey at 1-9-2005 11:07 AM
9 is 7 year away from 16.
16 years old in many country is consider minor (children) currently. So in some country , marry to 16 years old girl is prohibited. So y 40 years ago , it is ok to marry a 16 years women/girl?
Pls awnser , dun deviate.Be civilised. |
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is 9 year old sex allowed under law in msia or anywhere? |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 1-9-2005 12:42 PM
is 9 year old sex allowed under law in msia or anywhere?
No currently 9 year old sex marriage are not allowed ,so does under 16 year old marriage allowed under law in msia or anywhere? If in currently some country are not allowed to marry with under 16 years old girl , why previously can. (40 years ago).
Can u anwser my question? Pls sir. Discuss as civilised people. |
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civilised people don't have sex with 9 year olds.
Mo was a paedophile simply because he did exactly that. There is no defence.
This is hardly a man that is a model of mankind. He wa sa terrorists, murderer, robber, rapist, paedophile and charlatan. The evidence is clear even from islamic literature.
I know you Muslims are hurt by all this exposure and you go into bigotry and denial. But teh truth is, you can get out from this evil religion, its all up to you. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 1-9-2005 01:39 PM
civilised people don't have sex with 9 year olds.
Mo was a paedophile simply because he did exactly that. There is no defence.
This is hardly a man that is a model of mankind. He wa sa terror ...
Dude , what bullshit u talk about. Have u awser my question?
Does under 16 year old marriage allowed under law in msia or anywhere? If in currently some country are not allowed to marry with under 16 years old girl , why previously can. (40 years ago).
Share with us WHY? |
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Since you say there was no laws then, what about sex with a 3 year old? Wouldn't that be allowed too according to your law of the times logic?
like I said, sex witha 9 year old is clearly paedohilia no matter how you deny it. aisha clearly wasn't ready for marriage nor sex. Thats why she became barren after that.
cheers |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 1-9-2005 01:49 PM
Since you say there was no laws then, what about sex with a 3 year old? Wouldn't that be allowed too according to your law of the times logic?
like I said, sex witha 9 year old is clearly paedohi ...
Dude when I say there is no law? Mind read back my question again?
Does under 16 year old marriage allowed under law in msia or anywhere? If in currently some country are not allowed to marry with under 16 years old girl , why previously can. (40 years ago).
Share with us WHY? |
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Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 1-9-2005 10:35 AM
Did you know p鎑ophilia means.
I do know what it means but you seem to have a problem. You don't even understand your own cut&paste. If you did understood it then you won't be yacking about your father being a pedophilia.
I wonder why you are so anxious to call your father a pedophilia. I already told you it does not apply to him as your mother was 16year old( as claimed by you). Even your cut&paste says the same thing. Sex with adolescents especially late adulescents in their 16s are not considered as an act of pedophilia.
Anyway, in Malaysia the 16year old age limit applies only to non-muslims females. But for muslim females.. shariah-family-law over-rules civil-family-law.
read this.. from undang2 keluarga islam selangor..
Umur minimum untuk berkahwin
8. Tiada sesuatu perkahwinan boleh diakadnikahkan minimum atau didaftarkan di bawah Enakmen ini jika lelaki itu untuk perkahwinan berumur kurang daripada lapan belas tahun atau perempuan itu berumur kurang daripada enam belas tahun kecuali Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.
and what happen to my question? why are you people keep dodging my question ???
answer this.. ."Can someone, who is an adult, be called a pedophilia if he loves a 9 year old girl child and have sex with her?"
simple question.. answer that.
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 1-9-2005 06:06 PM
I do know what it means but you seem to have a problem. You don't even understand your own cut&paste. If you did understood it then you won't be yacking about your father being ...
As my espectation u will give below statement. I have waiting for it from beginning.
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Umur minimum untuk berkahwin
8. Tiada sesuatu perkahwinan boleh diakadnikahkan minimum atau didaftarkan di bawah Enakmen ini jika lelaki itu untuk perkahwinan berumur kurang daripada lapan belas tahun atau perempuan itu berumur kurang daripada enam belas tahun kecuali Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.""
Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.
Did u understand it mean?
What is hal keadaan tertentu. And no specific. Thats mean the age mention above is just for guidance only Did you know my mum celebrate 16 birthday after marriage. And according to my father , she is mature , not like current , 20 still not mature.
And if u fully understand Akil Baligh or mature , vary from time to time , from women to women. Am I right.
So for ur further understanding pls read below statement about mature age , especially the one that I have red.
[quote]BILAKAH seorang kanak-kanak di Malaysia menjadi seorang dewasa mengikut undang-undang: pada usia 18 atau 21 tahun? Tahap umur mana satu diiktiraf sistem perundangan negara?
Persoalan penting itu, yang menyentuh hidup setiap orang tetapi kurang diberikan perhatian selama ini, timbul kira-kira sebulan lalu apabila seorang ibu memfailkan satu permohonan habeas corpus di Mahkamah Tinggi Georgetown, Pulau Pinang untuk mendapatkan kembali hak terhadap anak perempuannya.
Isunya begini. A Shamala bertindak meninggalkan ibunya, G Vijaletcheme, 24 jam selepas meraikan hari lahirnya yang ke-18 pada 3 Mac lalu. Gadis itu kemudian membuat laporan polis mengatakan dia meninggalkan rumah dengan rela hati tanpa ugutan atau paksaan sesiapa.
Sebabnya? Remaja itu mahu berkahwin dengan buah hati pilihannya. Dan itu yang dilakukannya apabila 13 hari selepas keluar rumah, yakni pada 16 Mac, dia menyimpul ikatan perkahwinan dengan Babu Arumugam, 23, mengikut adat istiadat agama Hindu di sebuah kuil di Prai.
Bagaimanapun, ibunya, seorang jurutera berusia 43 tahun, mahu undang-undang mengembalikan semula anaknya yang didakwa dilarikan melalui satu perancangan teliti yang diatur Babu dan keluarganya.
Justeru, melalui peguamnya, S Selvam, dia menamakan Babu dan ibu bapanya, Arumugam Supaiha serta M Vijayalethchimi sebagai defendan pertama, kedua dan ketiga. Turut dinamakan sebagai defendan ialah Ketua Balai Polis Bukit Tengah dan Ketua Polis Negara yang didakwa gagal bertindak apabila dia membuat laporan polis bahawa anaknya dilarikan orang.
Vijaletcheme, dalam permohonan habeas corpusnya, mempertikaikan fakta bahawa Shamala berhak untuk menentukan masa depannya sendiri apabila mencapai umur 18 tahun - usia apabila seorang kanak-kanak itu menjadi seorang dewasa mengikut Akta Kanak-Kanak 2001.
Sebaliknya, wanita itu merujuk kepada dua perundangan lain, Akta Umur Dewasa 1971 dan Akta Membaharui Undang-Undang (Perkahwinan dan Perceraian) 1976 untuk mendapatkan semula hak penjagaan terhadap Shamala. Kedua-dua akta berkenaan, menurut peguamnya, menyebut seseorang itu perlu berusia 21 untuk berkahwin tanpa izin ibu bapa.
Sehubungan itu, Vijaletcheme berkata, adalah menjadi satu kesalahan untuk mendirikan rumah tangga tanpa kebenaran ibu bapa mengikut Seksyen 365 Kanun Acara Jenayah.
Dalam pada itu, polis tidak bertindak terhadap aduan yang dikemukakan Vijaletcheme kerana mereka turut merujuk kepada Akta Kanak-Kanak yang mengiktiraf 18 tahun sebagai usia seseorang kanak-kanak menjadi seorang dewasa dan bebas mencorak hidupnya sendiri tanpa pengaruh kedua-dua orang tua.
Pada 4 Mei lalu, Mahkamah Tinggi Georgetown mendengar permohonan Vijaletcheme.
Peguam pemohon, Selvam dan peguam defendan, A Tanakharan masing-masing mengemukakan hujah di hadapan Pesuruhjaya Kehakiman, Mohd Zabidin Mohd Diah.
Menurut Selvam, Akta Membaharui Undang-Undang (Perkahwinan dan Perceraian) dengan jelas membuktikan Shamala seorang kanak-kanak bawah umur kerana belum mencecah usia 21 tahun.
Katanya, hakikat Shamala mengaku kepada polis bahawa dia berkahwin dengan Babu membuktikan akta berkenaan dilanggar dan tindakan itu menjadi satu kesalahan mengikut Seksyen 365 Kanun Acara Jenayah.
揓elas, mereka berkahwin secara haram tanpa mendapat izin ibu bapa Shamala, |
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Having sex witha 9year old is paedophilia no matter how hard you try to twist.
And thanks for keeping the thread up so that I can keep exposing Mohamad's paedophilia for all to see.
peace |
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Besides, Muhammad claimed allah give him special privileges to married more than 4 wives finally he end marrying 10++++. Is same privileges to Arab King when they claimed only they can enter that mystery room behind kaba???
It seems that in Islam they talk so much abt privileges /or reward ( ganjaran) if one do that and this. For example:
1) if muslims pray in Jerusalem that alllah will provide Ganjaran
2) If fast another ganjaran
3) Pray in morning another ganjaran
4) Kill to protect islam another ganjaran
and list goes on and on the so called ganjaran to reward muhammad followers by allah.
So, it is the ganjaran muslims doing all this to enjoy paradise?? In Christians we do not hve such ganjaran /or reward /or privileges because God of Bible want us to worshipped HIM in truth, sincere and faith rather than offering ganjaran. Sound to me like bribe to offer reward if one keep god commandment. Is that not sound strange whether they keeping true god????
P/s: as for me I do not need ganjaran frm HIM. I need his blessing, Love and Protection which I pray & praise HIM with sincerely and faithfully and that what I called true relationship with GOD than all those ganjaran and those crap things.
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 1-9-2005 09:40 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 1-9-2005 09:37 PM
Besides, Muhammad claimed allah give him special privileges to married more than 4 wives finally he end marrying 10++++. Is same privileges to Arab King when they claimed only they can en ...
I dunno wether u have problem understanding Bahasa. Pls go thru below statement
Menurut mereka, disebabkan tiada satu usia dewasa yang standard, setiap kes pertikaian usia dewasa akan dihalusi oleh mahkamah mengikut permasalahan yang dihadapi dengan mengambil kira kematangan subjek dan implikasi daripada keputusan yang dibuat. |
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Umur minimum untuk berkahwin
8. Tiada sesuatu perkahwinan boleh diakadnikahkan minimum atau didaftarkan di bawah Enakmen ini jika lelaki itu untuk perkahwinan berumur kurang daripada lapan belas tahun atau perempuan itu berumur kurang daripada enam belas tahun kecuali Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.""
In other word , mature for women vary from time to time , from women to women and from place to place. Surrounding enviroment effect directly the age of mature. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2-2-2005 12:34 PM
ancient Arabian culture accepts paganistic worship. Does that make it correct?
Doe ancient culture mean paedophilia, human rights abuse, slavery and human scarifice correct?
pardon me...that was the time before Islam. |
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When Lady Aisha was nine years old then, (that was way way back 1000 ++++ years ago, the quality n intelligence might have been the same as this youngster from Pakistan (This is just my personal opinion (Allah swt forbid me if Im wrong)
Think Your Kid Is Smart? At Age 9, Girl in Pakistan Is a Microsoft Certified Professional
5/2/2005
REDMOND, Wash., May 2, 2005 --- The Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) credential is for technology professionals who have the skills to successfully implement a Microsoft product or technology as part of a business solution. At just 9 years old, Arfa Karim Randhawa , of Faisalabad, Pakistan, is one of the youngest MCPs in the world. She recently received her credentials from Emre Berkin, chairman of Microsoft's Europe, Middle East and Africa region, and Jawwad Rehman, Microsoft's country manager for Pakistan. Via e-mail, Randhawa recently discussed how the child of an agricultural family came to achieve this status and what it means to her and her family.
PressPass: When did you first become interested in computers?
Arfa: At the age of 5, when I was in kindergarten, I often used to pass by the computer labs and see students doing work on computers. I realized that calculation, which would take us a long time to do, can be done in less than a second with the help of computers. So that is how my interest in computers began. I started to explore computers on my own and first used one at the age of 6, when I was in first grade. Then I went to Applied Technologies (APTECH) for further studies.
PressPass: Why did you decide to pursue MCP certification?
Arfa: When I went to APTECH, my teachers, keeping in view my aim and age, decided that I should go for a certification of Microsoft. Because of my interest in software development, they decided that I should go for my MCP. It took me four months, and I did it during my summer vacation.PressPass: What does it mean to you to receive this honor?
Arfa: It means a lot to me, because it helped me get recognition worldwide and to fulfill the dreams of my parents, especially my late grandfather, Ch. Abdul Karim Randhawa. I am thankful to Almighty Allah and my teachers, without whom I could not have achieved this honor. This is just the beginning.
PressPass: How have your family and friends reacted?
Arfa: The reaction of my family and friends was, naturally, very exciting. They are exhilarated and very much proud of me. My father provided me the opportunities, the required hardware, various software and the main thing, which is my confidence level.
I live in Faisalabad, a major industrial city of Pakistan. Faisalabad is called "Manchester of Pakistan," and it is famous for its cloth industry. I belong to a purely agricultural family from a rural background. My late grandfather was an unlettered scholar and had a great passion for higher education for his next generation. My father is serving with a U.N. peacekeeping force in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. My mother is a landlady and looks after the land affairs in the absence of my father. I have two younger brothers, named Sarmad and Dawood, ages 7 and 3, respectively. Prior to me, no one in my family is in the field of IT, but I can feel that my brothers are following my footsteps very anxiously and enthusiastically. They are posing a constant challenge to my world record.
PressPass: Have you ever visited America?
Arfa: I have not visited America as of now. However, I would love to come to the United States, for two reasons. Firstly, I would like to pay a visit to Disneyland. Secondly, I would like to meet Bill Gates.
PressPass: What are your impressions of Microsoft?
Arfa: Microsoft has changed the way people think about computers. Microsoft has laid down the foundations for next-generation computing and is the founder in terms of providing user-friendly software--thereby increasing the number of novice users. I like the way Microsoft participates in other-than-mainstream activities, such as academic research, charities, scholarships and connecting the disconnected by providing technology support to underserved people. Microsoft develops a lot of software that allows people to realize their potential. This is exactly what my experience is with Microsoft. I have a passion for software, and Microsoft provides me a true platform.
PressPass: Would you ever want to work at Microsoft?
Arfa: I would definitely like to work at Microsoft, since software development and exploring new technologies has always been my passion, and Microsoft is best when it comes to next-generation software technologies. Technology evangelism has always been my passion since I learned how to use computers. Not only I would like to work as the youngest technology evangelist at Microsoft, I would like to work on those cutting-edge technologies which would be explored by technology evangelists five years from now. Moreover, I would love to visit Microsoft headquarters at Redmond. I have dreamt a lot about the Redmond campus. I have visualized in my dreams so many times the working environment of Microsoft. I would like to see the labs where Microsoft Visual Studio .NET and the Microsoft .NET Framework have been developed.
PressPass: What other kinds of activities or hobbies do you enjoy?
Arfa: Computers, singing, reading, painting and gardening are my hobbies. I have won a singing competition at the national level. I keep my self updated by reading different books and encyclopedias.
PressPass: Do you have any advice for other young people?
Arfa: I have a message for the kids across the globe: If you want to do something big in your life, you must remember that shyness is only in the mind. If you think shy, you act shy. But if you think confident, you act confident. Therefore, never let shyness conquer your mind. |
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Whats this mean.
Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.
And anyone can give us the standard mature age for women from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Truth8? |
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Originally posted by cokkodok at 2-9-2005 02:45 PM
pardon me...that was the time before Islam.
Nope, Mo practiced paedophilia by having sex with a 9 year old. So not only did he adopted Arabian culture, he instituted such a practice for you today. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 3-9-2005 06:52 AM
Nope, Mo practiced paedophilia by having sex with a 9 year old. So not only did he adopted Arabian culture, he instituted such a practice for you today.
Mo practice paedophilia?
Dude can u awnser below?
Whats this mean.
Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.
And anyone can give us the standard mature age for women from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Truth8? |
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We all can agree, even all the muslims on this forum that Mo had sex with a 9 year old Aisha right?
Thats something nobody can deny.
cheers |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 3-9-2005 10:13 PM
We all can agree, even all the muslims on this forum that Mo had sex with a 9 year old Aisha right?
Thats something nobody can deny.
cheers
Dude have u read my post?
Mo practice paedophilia?
Whats this mean.
Jika Hakim Syar'iah telah memberi kebenarannya secara bertulis dalam hal keadaan tertentu.
And anyone can give us the standard mature age for women from 5000 years ago. If there is. Faith? Debmey? Truth8? |
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Post time 1-9-2005 12:05 PM
