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[MERGED]--Room inside Kaba is a forbidden.Why? - Pict page 43
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Originally posted by KENNKID at 23-11-2005 12:04 PM
And you came some 2000 years later saying that Jesus is God when Jesus never said that. It was not the belief during Abraham's time, it was not the belief during Moses' time, not the belief during Jesus's time... suddenly in the 21st century you say Jesus is God. Six hundred years after Jesus, when there were signs of deviation, God revealed the truth about Jesus to God's final prophet. But instead of listening and believing, your people made it even worse.
From One God in Absolute Unity, you people made him 3 in one and now there's this 2 in 1 from you. When will you ever get things right?
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Yes Jesus is God according to Bible. if u do not buy than feel sorry for ur souls.
The question here is Kaba? does True God of Abraham acknowledge such facing toward qilat?? or just human made systems?? |
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Originally posted by tickmeoff at 22-11-2005 07:54 PM
[quote]a human has a brain and he has logics. He asks questions and he seeks answers. Robots do not ask question they follow. They are programmed not to rebel but to submit. they are mindless and they ...
a human has a brain and he has logics. He asks questions and he seeks answers. Robots do not ask question they follow. They are programmed not to rebel but to submit. they are mindless and they have no logics.they are drones.
am i robot? or are YOU one yourself? think about it.[/quote]
So which one u prefer to be ? My simple question , robot or human?
and you have not answered my question. I mentioned God is inconsistent because he keeps changing his mind. first he favoured the Jews, then he sent all the prophets to them, then he changed his mind when teh jews 'disobey' him. He now pour his blessings to the arabs by appointing an arab prophet. when the jews disobey him again and refused to accept muhammad, he changed the kiblat from Jerusalem to Mekah. isnt this inconsistency?
God as you believe should be ever powerful everlasting, ever knowing. If he knows the jews will disobey him, why did he bother to appoint jewish prophets? why do that? he is creating a mess! He must also know that the jews and christians wil change the holy book, then WHY BOTHER dividing human race? why dont just appoint all the prophets in arab line and proclaim islam as teh universal religion? why send moses, jesus if He knew they will fail in their task? why create so many confusions?
I am atheist yes, but i also read a bit of the koran (english translation) and the bible. I can tell you that the koran itself has so many condemnation for the jews and christians, condeming them in almost every chapter. why condemn the jews/ christians if this is the 'mistake' god has made himself? mistake is why he sent moses/jesus knowing that they will faiL?
Inconsistent because u claim god change mind? Errr dude , last 2 years there is no tsunami in Malaysia. Last year there is , so does it mean inconsistent? Errr today I eat rice and curry , tommorrow , I eat beefsteak , does it mean I am inconsistent?
Sigh u r wierd dude. |
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Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 23-11-2005 03:25 PM
Inconsistent because u claim god change mind? Errr dude , last 2 years there is no tsunami in Malaysia. Last year there is , so does it mean inconsistent? Errr today I eat rice and curry , tommorrow , I eat beefsteak , does it mean I am inconsistent?
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yes indeed but bear in mind that ur muhammad followers and another oness followers question my thread "The end time comes like flood" on December 04. what happene?? it came for first time to educate this two mis guided forummer when koran and bible did wrote flood destroy during noah times. do they used their thinking cap to think when i wrote THINK. NO
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 23-11-2005 11:45 PM ] |
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humpty dumpty sat on the wall
humpty dumpty had a great fall :hmm: |
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Truth8,
Is it stated in the Quran that the room inside Kaabah is forbidden ?
Is it stated in the Hadiths that the room inside Kaabah is forbidden ?
Is it in any fatwa that the room inside Kaabah is forbidden ?
ONLY YOU WHO SAY THAT THE ROOM INSIDE KAABAH IS FORBIDDEN. WHO ARE YOU FOR MUSLIMS ? DONT TALK STUPID
[ Last edited by Oreng at 24-11-2005 11:06 AM ] |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 23-11-2005 07:20 PM
yes indeed but bear in mind that ur muhammad followers and another oness followers question my thread "The end time comes like flood" on December 04. what happene?? it came ...
Question ur thread? Errr u mean like when I question ur thread about so call earth quake on hari raya? Hmmm disaster postpond again? |
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Well! Truth8 should give them the pixs of those 360 idols inside the ka'ba or anything wmd,secret documents...anything.Use the service of the holy ghost,US military intelligence,James Bond.....whatever,just get the pixs inside the ka'ba. |
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now34 going to 35 pages, wow thread going on an on just to satisfy the whims of T8 sticked stubbornly on his crazy fantasies like chewing gum sticking on his shoes . |
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and the point is?
greetings truth.8,
interesting topic you put up here. hmmm.... how shall i start? true, before the Prophethood of Muhammad PBUH, tha Ka'aba was the center of idolatry among the pagan Quraisy, hundreds of stone statues were worshipped there and pilgrimages have been practiced since before. after the rise of Islam in Madinah and an Islamic center was established in Mekkah, the Prophet PBUH commanded for the removal of the stone idols. it was way after that, when the Revelation for Muslims to face the Ka'aba in prayer came. now, the Ka'aba is only a direction to face during prayers. Muslims do not pray to the Ka'aba, they only face it when praying. its most common symbolism is the centrality and unity of muslims worldwide.
so, after that short introduction, i'd like to address your question concerning the Ka'aba.
"Whether it's under lock and key or open to the public, what difference would it make to you?"
it's not as if you would spend the time and money to pay a visit, nor would it make any physical difference to you. after knowing the Ka'aba's content, what could you possibly do with the knowledge? if a piece of knowledge could not be used to improve our life, then it is utterly useless. hence, the need for it in the first place is irrelevant.
in short, the content of the Ka'aba is not important, but faith is. are you a person of faith? to quote the Bible, Jesus taught us to love all, if you're so hateful and determined to find faults with others when it doesn't concern you in the first place, then wouldn't it be in vain for Jesus to die for YOUR sins?
may peace be unto you
p/s-don't take it personal, though. it's only the opinion of one. :cak: |
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Originally posted by satellite88 at 24-11-2005 08:38 PM
Well! Truth8 should give them the pixs of those 360 idols inside the ka'ba or anything wmd,secret documents...anything.Use the service of the holy ghost,US military intelligence,James Bond.....what ...
Bila datang kemusyiklan, cepat cepatlah siasat. |
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Originally posted by kakashi74 at 26-11-2005 09:52 AM
greetings truth.8,
interesting topic you put up here. hmmm.... how shall i start? true, before the Prophethood of Muhammad PBUH, tha Ka'aba was the center of idolatry among the pagan Quraisy, hu ...
ok, u claimed the idols is not there but remember u and me not witness it. they might hve disposal off or might not. only God knows.
But, why our earlier prophets before Muhammad did not observed this ritual??
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 26-11-2005 04:08 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Oreng at 24-11-2005 10:59 AM
ONLY YOU WHO SAY THAT THE ROOM INSIDE KAABAH IS FORBIDDEN. WHO ARE YOU FOR MUSLIMS ? DONT TALK STUPID
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than who are u to question the Bible is corrupt??? dont talk rubbished like Deedat |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 26-11-2005 12:32 PM
ok, u claimed the idols is not that but remember u and me not witness it. they might hve disposal off or might not. only God knows.
But, why our earlier prophets before Muhammad ...
they might hve disposal off or might not. = another assumption? Huh |
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Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 26-11-2005 01:37 PM
they might hve disposal off or might not. = another assumption? Huh
can u translate the word assumption in Bahasa Malaysia, pls
thanks |
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Assumption is andaian in Bahasa Melayu.
BTW Truth, I suggest you pretend to become a Muslim & get a permit to perform your pilgrimage. Only then you can get permission to enter the Kaabah & make sure you bring along your videocam to capture what're inside the Kaabah. That'd solve your curiousity whether there're idols in the Kaabah. Then share with us your photos/videos. |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 26-11-2005 08:31 PM
Assumption is andaian in Bahasa Melayu.
BTW Truth, I suggest you pretend to become a Muslim & get a permit to perform your pilgrimage. Only then you can get permission to enter the Kaabah & make sure you bring along your videocam to capture what're inside the Kaabah. That'd solve your curiousity whether there're idols in the Kaabah. Then share with us your photos/videos.
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andaian ???hmmmm so can my andaian same feelings like kemusykilan???
even i am allow to enter the mystery room behind the kaba, do u think they allowed me to snape videos??? even handphone camera is not allowed in that area. very fishy as times goes by. |
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Fishy ?
This truth is terrible. After we say repeatedly that there is NOTHING significant in the kaabah, he keep asking that there must be SOMETHING. .. FISHY some more. Weird la this guy ! The more we say NOTHING, the more he expect SOMETHING. What brain he has ? You expect there is Weapon of Mass Destruction there ? |
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Originally posted by Oreng at 28-11-2005 10:57 AM
Fishy ?
This truth is terrible. After we say repeatedly that there is NOTHING significant in the kaabah, he keep asking that there must be SOMETHING. .. FISHY some more. Weird la this guy ! The ...
And the best about Truth8 , is all his something is base on assumption (no fact) |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 27-11-2005 05:50 PM
andaian ???hmmmm so can my andaian same feelings like kemusykilan???
even i am allow to enter the mystery room behind the kaba, do u think they allowed me to snape videos??? even handphone c ...
So can I say I am right when I assume u might keeping an idol statue in ur house. The reason is , till now u did not allow me personally to snap picture in ur house?:cak::cak::cak::cak: |
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Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 28-11-2005 12:21 PM
And the best about Truth8 , is all his something is base on assumption (no fact)
i agree. Everything that he said is based on assumptions.
By the way, regarding the topic of this tread, it is true that the room inside Kaabah is forbidden. But the rules apply only to the public. Usually, VIP's are given the priviledge to get inside kaabah. Besides, the rules are made by the Government of Saudi Arabia. It is their right to do what is best to protect the Kaabah, since it is an important historical site. |
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Post time 23-11-2005 03:25 PM
