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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 2005-5-28 10:53 AM:
MUHAMMAD WAS THE FATHER OF PEDOPHILIA..NOUGH SAID.
DEAL WITH IT OR I'LL SHOVE IT UP YUR ASS.
Yo f-uckaroo, you giving me attitude in my house? You're in my house as a guest, so behave. If you have nothing better or intelligent to say, just pucker up your chops. Nobody's asking you to say nothing here. Nobody even cares but we do about the choice of words you're flashing around here.
Now the prophet is the FATHER OF PAEDOPHILIA? Great. You're taking this rot up one more level. When you make sweeping statements, I suggest you attach them with sweeping facts too.
No sweat bro. How about you take on the two points, the comments on the Ansari women and solid proof that says Bukhari narrates the prophet as being a paedophile.
Debmey and FaithHealer are now collectively in misdirection & smokescreen mode. Maybe you can help out your drowning bros here by taking on where they left off.
DEAL WITH IT OR ELSE YOU ALREADY PROBABLY KNOW BY NOW WHERE YOU CAN GO SHOVE YOUR INABILITY?
ARI FUZZMAN
[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 29-5-2005 at 01:42 AM ] |
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Originally posted by KENNKID at 2005-5-28 11:08 PM:
It shows you don't know head or tale what Fuzzman was saying - you have purposely twisted his words like you twist every truth there is about whatever is Islam.... shame on you FH3...you are nothing but a cheapskate racist!! ...
Right on the money Kennkid. Yeah high five bro! Faith Healer ain't just a FaithHeckler but a LOWDOWN CHEAPSKATE RACIST too? And yet FH3 tries to make out as some high profiling " I BE ABOVE YOU " individual here.
Like Debmey, FaithHeckler cannot take on the TWO POINTS nor tell Fuzzman the social standings of the Ansari women and for what they represent in Arab society during the time of the prophet. Just a peek down the rabbit's hole. Ansari women WILL NOT get involved in "abnormal practices" that run against their way of life and will bear no part in illegal practices. Something those arsewarts would already know by now if they had google-lised the issue. My bet says they did. That is why touching the issue of the Ansari women is a definate NO NO.
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-5-29 01:55 AM:
Right on the money Kennkid. Yeah high five bro! Faith Healer ain't just a FaithHeckler but a LOWDOWN CHEAPSKATE RACIST too? And yet FH3 tries to make out ...
Yo FuzzyBoy.. playing dumb aren't you.
Your two pointer crappoop question already been answered.
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 29-5-2005 01:39 AM:
Yo f-uckaroo, you giving me attitude in my house? You're in my house as a guest, so behave. If you have nothing better or intelligent to say, just pucker ...
I DONT GIVE A CRAP IF THIS IS YOUR GRANDMAS HOUSE. I'LL SHIT WHEREVER I WANT GOT IT SPAZZBOY. YOU THINK YOUR BIG FONT GONNA IMPRESS ME? FORGET IT. YOUR FONTS ARE BIGGER THAN YOUR BRAINS OBVIOUSLY.
FACTS DOESNT MEAN A SHIT JIZZBOY, WHEN THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR BELOVED PAEDO-BOY HAVE INSPIRED MUSLIMS. INFACT I BET ONE OF THE MULLAHS IS DOING HIS THING WITH A NINE YEAR OLD RIGHT NOW. |
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-5-29 02:52 AM:
Yo FuzzyBoy.. playing dumb aren't you.Your two pointer crappoop question already been answered.
Crap adjoined with poop? That's definately a new way of describing the attitude of Christians and Atheists here eh? The Christians talk crap and the Atheists come up logistically with poop. LOL
Answered already? By whom? Debmey? You? Only in your dreams FaithHeckler. By far you've proved nothing, provided nothing and definately achieved nothing. Zero. Time you started the task. Oh yeah! oh yeah! you can feat the pirate bonehead if you wanna, but then again that pirate f-uckarro just ain't interested in facts, just sweeping statements without hardproofs is the modus operandi.
Give us the evidences and proofs. If you do, then you are one class above the likes of Debmey and the sicko pirate arsewart. Cheerio bro. Time to sow what you know.
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 12:24 AM:
LIKE MUHAMMAD, MOST ISLAMIC CLERKS, MULLAHS AND AMERICAN CATHOLIC PRIEST, ALL ARE PERVERTED MENTALLY AND SEXUALLY - PAEDOPHILIA.
this i agreed. catholic priest who think ok to marry same sex when the Bible says NO.
I know many gays and same sex feelings always blame why then God put such sexual desire ?
There is reason for all this. If one has such feelings, we should pray very hard and totally surrender to HIM to control such same sex liking.
[ Last edited by Truth.8 on 29-5-2005 at 02:55 PM ] |
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 09:08 AM:
I DONT GIVE A CRAP IF THIS IS YOUR GRANDMAS HOUSE. I'LL SHIT WHEREVER I WANT GOT IT SPAZZBOY. YOU THINK YOUR BIG FONT GONNA IMPRESS ME? FORGET IT. YOUR FONTS ARE BIGGER THAN YOUR BRAINS OBVIOUSLY.
FACTS DOESNT MEAN A SHIT JIZZBOY, WHEN THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR BELOVED PAEDO-BOY HAVE INSPIRED MUSLIMS. INFACT I BET ONE OF THE MULLAHS IS DOING HIS THING WITH A NINE YEAR OLD RIGHT NOW....
fuzz think he hell of great here. he nothing but lousy loser.
I remember when I posted the mystery room back of kaba and that fella threatened to report to authority.
now, my another topic on "Father in Heaven save me" he wanted to report to press.
U C he damp loser. Christians always the victory to exposed the lies created my mullah and muhammad.
come lah fuzz grow up and flight like men lah |
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 2005-5-29 09:08 AM:
I DONT GIVE A CRAP IF THIS IS YOUR GRANDMAS HOUSE. I'LL SHIT WHEREVER I WANT GOT IT SPAZZBOY. YOU THINK YOUR BIG FONT GONNA IMPRESS ME? FORGET IT. YOUR FONTS ARE BIGGER THAN YOUR BRAINS OBVIO ...
Relaxlah pirate.pet
You look like you are piss-off by the muslims who follow a man : who had very low moral standard and violated basic human rights and yet had the cheek to pass judgement on other peoples morals.
Fuzzy and Kenny just like other muslims, on the other hand-belief that their prophet is infallable.. a devine being.. worship him like an idol and yet never admit it. They would believe every real and fake story that praises him.. but bypass or ignore all the not-so nice stories about him. Thats what makes a muslim a muslim. Muslims are gullible when it comes to their prophet.
Their mind just refuse to register the criminal acts. What we would consider as a pedophilia act like shagging a kid, they think its ok as long as you have a sham marriage. Child marriage is soo unnatural thing to do.. just like the homo marriage.
A despicable thing like pedophilia is not something to be imitated but they call it sunnah. What Muhammad did or said is something for them to follow.
Sunnah is the reason for the Islamic Iranian goverment to allow young girls as young as 9years old to have sex with old mans.. married of course.. temporary or permanent marriages.. how bizzare.
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-5-29 03:43 PM:
Relaxlah pirate.pet
You look like you are piss-off by the muslims who follow a man : who had very low moral standard and violated basic human rights and yet had the cheek to p ...
Could you pls produce the hadith that mentions it's a Sunnah that Muslim men wed underage child? |
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 2005-5-29 12:24 AM:
THATS GOOD KIDDO, COMING FROM A IDIOT. DID YOU FIGURE OUT MY ANOLOGY EARLIER? OR YOU'RE STILL SCRATCHING YER HEAD.
MUST FEEL LIKE A KICK ON YER STOMACH EH KIDDO READING THE WORD OF KHOMEINI HIMSEL ...
This guy really sounds very familiar. I think I know you! |
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Originally posted by pirate.pete at 2005-5-29 12:24 AM:
THATS GOOD KIDDO, COMING FROM A IDIOT. DID YOU FIGURE OUT MY ANOLOGY EARLIER? OR YOU'RE STILL SCRATCHING YER HEAD.
MUST FEEL LIKE A KICK ON YER STOMACH EH KIDDO READING THE WORD OF KHOMEINI HIMSEL ...
Ready for same-sex marriage? I thought I saw the headline somewhere just now. Even the homo Christian/Catholic priests got married & it's legal. You can't find that in other religions like Islam. I didn't know that the teachings of the Church can be changed to suit men's preferences.
[ Last edited by Baiduri Othman on 12-6-2005 at 10:30 PM ] |
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Faithhealer, I know you're online right now. Show me the hadith pls!!! |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 10:02 PM:
Ready for same-sex marriage? I thought I saw the headline somewhere just now. Even the homo Christian/Catholic priests got married & it's legal. You can't find that in other religions like ...
same sex marriage & child molester comes frm RC. Well, if their faith based on vatican and pope sayings than Bible, what u expect? all will be exposed in last day as the Bible says " i show ur nakeness"
Glad my faith (twoness) do not hve such child molesting priest or pastors. |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2005-6-12 11:21 PM:
same sex marriage & child molester comes frm RC. Well, if their faith based on vatican and pope sayings than Bible, what u expect? all will be exposed in last day as the Bible says " i ...
But I didn't know that the teachings of the Church can tolerate with humans' needs & preferences. There're many non-RC gay priests out there. |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-6-12 11:28 PM:
But I didn't know that the teachings of the Church can tolerate with humans' needs & preferences. There're many non-RC gay priests out there.
Well,priests are just priests.Mohammad was supposed to be a prophet.
Do you bring up nuns when discussing the Hijab? You do see the significant differences,right? Jesus never had sex with a child in any event,under any circumstance.
[ Last edited by vixen on 13-6-2005 at 01:35 AM ] |
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Originally posted by vixen at 13-6-2005 01:33 AM:
Well,priests are just priests.Mohammad was supposed to be a prophet.
Do you bring up nuns when discussing the Hijab? You do see the significant differences,right? Jesus never had sex with a chil ...
According to Judaism, Christianity and Islam, right and wrong are ordained by Almighty God. As such, morality does not change over time based on our whims, desires or cultural sensitivities. In cultures where there is no Divinely revealed ruling on an issue, what is right and what is wrong is determined by cultural norms. In such cases, a person would only be considered "immoral" if they violated the accepted norms of their society. As we will demonstrate, the Prophet Muhammad's marriage to 'Aishah, viewed both in the light of Absolute Morality and the cultural norms of his time, was not an immoral act, but was an act containing valuable lessons for generations to come. Additionally, this marriage followed the norms for all Semitic peoples, including those of Biblical times. Based on this, it is grossly hypocritical for Christians to criticise the Prophet's marriage to 'Aishah at such a young age. In case Christian readers are under the false impression that their values today are timeless and somehow reflect those of Biblical times, please consider the following points which are directly related to the question of at what age a person is properly ready to be married:
Keeping in mind the ideas of "political correctness" and "absolute morality", in Biblical times the age at which a girl could marry was puberty. However, during the Middle Ages it was usually twelve years old. Now in most "Christian" countries it is between fourteen and sixteen years old. some states allow partners of the same sex to legally marry, but consider an eighteen year old boy who sleeps with a sixteen year old girl a "statutory rapist".
Historically, the age at which a girl was considered ready to be married has been puberty. This was the case in Biblical times,and is still used to determine the age of marriage in what the culturally arrogant West calls "primitive societies" throughout the world. As the ahadith about 'Aishah's age show, her betrothal took place at least three years before the consummation of the marriage. The reason for this was that they were waiting for her to come of age (i.e. to have her first menstrual period). Puberty is a biological sign which shows that a women is capable of bearing children. Can anyone logically deny this?
It is upon reaching the age of puberty that a person, man or woman, becomes legally responsible under Islamic Law. At this point, they are allowed to make their own decisions and are held accountable for their actions. It should also be mentioned that in Islam, it is unlawful to force someone to marry someone that they do not want to marry. The evidence shows that 'Aishah's marriage to the Prophet Muhammad was one which both parties and their families agreed upon. Based on the culture at that time, no one saw anything wrong with it. On the contrary, they were all happy about it.
The Prophet's contemporaries (both enemies and friends) clearly accepted the Prophet's marriage to `Aisha without any problem. We see the evidence for this by the lack of criticism against the marriage until modern times. However, a change in culture caused the change in our times today. |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 2005-6-13 01:57 AM:
As the ahadith about 'Aishah's age show, her betrothal took place at least three years before the consummation of the marriage. The reason for this was that they were waiting for her to come of age (i.e. to have her first menstrual period). Puberty is a biological sign which shows that a women is capable of bearing children. Can anyone logically deny this?
The 3 year gap between angaement and consummation is due to sickness. Aisha fall sick.. her hair dropped. When it grew back up to her earlope, Muhammad deflowered her.
I thought this was already settled.. its in the hadiths.. posted earlier.
But what was not settle was the claim that Aisha had "come of age" thingy.
Show the hadiths that says Aisha had reached puberty(i.e. to have her first menstrual period) BEFORE Muhammad consumated his marriage with her.
So far the what we have is the hadiths that says Aisha was playing with dolls.. and according to hadiths also, the dolls are for girl who have not reached puberty.
wow 33pages and still growing.
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 13-6-2005 03:02 AM:
The 3 year gap between angaement and consummation is due to sickness. Aisha fall sick.. her hair dropped. When it grew back up to her earlope, Muhammad deflowered her.
I thought this was already settled.. its in the hadiths.. posted earlier.
But what was not settle was the claim that Aisha had "come of age" thingy.
Show the hadiths that says Aisha had reached puberty(i.e. to have her first menstrual period) BEFORE Muhammad consumated his marriage with her.
So far the what we have is the hadiths that says Aisha was playing with dolls.. and according to hadiths also, the dolls are for girl who have not reached puberty.
wow 33pages and still growing.
So what you think the ideal age to get married?
A 40-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old woman may be a "pedophile" in the USA today, but not in China today (where the age of consent is 14), nor in the USA last century. Biology is a much better standard by which to determine these things in my view, not the arbitrariness of human culture.
In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
As for the reasons why we age of consent just seems to get higher and higher, Essentially, we need more education just to survive in today's society, and this takes much more time. This additional education we need to function in today's society seems to me to be the main cause of the increase in the age of consent in many 20th century societies. The Common Law age of consent was 10. The French penal code raised the age from 11 to 13 only a century ago. In England, it was only in 1929 (70 years ago) that the ancient Christian minimum age for the marriage of females, which was 12, was abandoned.
I dont see anything wrong in marrying at such an early ages those days,they are however legal in the laws of the land.
33 pages and yet nobody can poves that its illegal.:lol
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Originally posted by vixen at 2005-6-13 01:33 AM:
Well,priests are just priests.Mohammad was supposed to be a prophet.
Do you bring up nuns when discussing the Hijab? You do see the significant differences,right? Jesus never had sex with a chil ...
I didn't bring up the gay priests issue here. You can pirate_pete's posts. I just want Faithhealer to produce a hadith that it's a sunnah that Muslim men wed underage children. Any Quranic verses that Islam promotes same-sex relationship & encourages Muslim men to wed underage children. |
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-6-13 03:02 AM:
The 3 year gap between angaement and consummation is due to sickness. Aisha fall sick.. her hair dropped. When it grew back up to her earlope, Muhammad deflowered her.
I thoug ...
WHERE'S THE HADITH????? |
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Post time 29-5-2005 01:39 AM
