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BEAUTIFUL DAYS Lee Byung Hun - Choi Ji Woo (BD-EHAS talk)
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-8-12 02:01 PM:
Website tu betul tapi sebab dah over limit.....dia out-of-service sekejap. Sorry....:cf:.
ader tak laman web die yg lain........? |
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Episod guide BD
Lee Min-chul (Lee Byung-hun)
Decisive and arrogant, Min-chul is the son of Lee Sung-chun. His father抯 marriage leads to a long-standing hostility with his step-brother, Lee San-jae. His greatest concern is his sister, Min-ji, who is rebellious and confused in life. He is strongly attracted to Yeon-soo and opens his heart to her however, the realisation of his father抯 past crime threatens to destroy his newly found happiness.
Kim Yeon-soo (Choi Ji-woo)
Gentle and optimistic, Yeon-soo is an orphan with a zest for life and dreams of being an artist. She devotes her sisterly love to Sae-na, despite their misunderstanding. As Min-ji抯 governess, she patiently guides her in life, in spite of Min-ji抯 hostility. Despite San-jae抯 affection for her, she stands firm in her love for Min-chul however her illness lands her in an emotional struggle of her love for Min-chul.
Lee San-jae (Ryu Si-won)
Kind at heart, San-jae is the son of Lee Yong-jun and Jang Myong-ja. Faced with Min-chul抯 hostility since young, he attempts to bridge their differences, however, his affections for Yeon-soo further widen their relationship. With a deep passion for music, he explores his talent under a pseudonym, Zero. The realisation of Yong-jun抯 actual death and his actual birthright corners him into a dilemma.
Kim Sae-na (Lee Jung-hyun)
Wilful but kind at heart, Sae-na harbours dreams of being a successful singer. Orphaned since young, she finds a friend in Yeon-soo but her misunderstanding towards Yeon-soo creates a rift in their sisterly love. Sae-na develops a crush on San-jae but is dismayed to learn of his affections for Yeon-soo, this further threatens her trust for Yeon-soo. However, Yeon-soo抯 sincerity and illness touches her and they rebuild their relationship.
Lee Min-ji (Shin Min-ah)
Hostile and rebellious, Min-ji is estranged from her father because of his marriage to Myong-ja. Her only solace is Min-chul, whom she adores and respects. She deems Yeon-soo抯 presence as an intrusion and Yeon-soo抯 affection for her brother rakes her jealousy. However, Yeon-soo抯 patience and sincerity tugs at her heart and she embraces their friendship whole-heartedly. Sung-chun抯 scandal forces her to mature rapidly and she abandons her rebellious nature.
Kang Na-rae (Lee Yu-jin)
Boisterous and helpful, Na-rae is Yeon-soo抯 closest friend and confidante. She showers her with much care and shares her responsibility for Sae-na . She strongly objects to Yeon-soo抯 love for Min-chul due to the discrepancy in their status, however, she later plays a major part in their reconciliation. With Sae-na抯 step into stardom, she fulfils her dreams of being an artiste manager.
Lee Sung-chun (Lee Jung-kil)
Sung-chun accidentally killed his best friend, Lee Yong-jun over a dispute. Carrying a torch for Yong-jun抯 wife, he keeps his crime a secret and married her, resulting in a rift with his own children. Upon Kyong-hee抯 return, his secret is exposed which leads to Myong-ja抯 suicide. The scandal takes a toll on his business and destroys his relationship with San-jae, however, he finds comfort in Min-chul and Min-ji抯 forgiveness.
Jang Myong-ja (Lee Kyong-jin)
Kind-hearted and submissive, Myong-ja is a victim of circumstances. For the sake of her son, San-jae, she agrees to marry Sung-chun after her husband抯 death, which incurs the wrath of his children. When Min-chul finally realises the truth, his amiability warms her and she looks forward to better days ; unfortunately, the truth of Yong-jun抯 death crumbles her, guilt-stricken, she turns to suicide.
Yang Kyong-hee (Lee Hee-hyang)
A famous singer in her heyday, Kyong-hee was framed by Sung-chun for a drug charge. She learns of Yong-jun抯 death and is unable to forgive Myong-ja for remarrying. Upon learning of Sung-chun抯 involvement in Yong-jun抯 death, she leads San-jae to the truth and convinces him to seek revenge for his father. Impressed with Sae-na抯 talent, she offers her an opportunity to be a singer. |
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BD Episode 1
It is the night of a music awards event. The climax of the evening would be the "Best Singer" award contended by Jung Tee-na from Victory Records and Yang Kyong-hee of Min Yong Records. The respective owners, Lee Sung-Chun and Lee Yong-Jun are best friends cum business competitors. It has been anticipated that the win would go to Yang Kyong-hee, however, the result proved otherwise. Just as Jung Tee-na was named the winner, Yang Kyong-hee is being led away by the police on a drug charge.
Suspecting his friend of the frame-up, Yong-jun confronts him. In the midst of argument, Sung-chun accidentally kills Yong-jun. He manages to cover up the incident, with the help of his assistant Jang Bong-tal, to look as if Yong-jun had committed suicide. Myong-ja, depressed over her husband's untimely death, had given birth to their son, Lee San-jae. Sung Chun promises to take care of Myong-ja and San-jae.
Sung-chun's wife had just passed on. He fetches Myong-ja and San-jae back to his home. As he was introducing San-jae to his children, his mother-in-law barged in and threw spiteful remarks at Myong-ja. She could not accept the fact that Sung-chun had brought another woman home immediately after her daughter's death. Myong-ja attempts to explain but was rebutted, however, she maintains her composure as she knows she is doing this for her son.
Since this incident, Sung-chun's children, Lee Min-chul and Lee Min-ji, treated San-jae and his mother with animosity. Sung-chun's tells Min-chul that San-jae is his son too, this admission furthers destroys Min-chul's faith in his father. Unaware to all, Sung-chun is taking up the responsibility for San-jae out of his guilt towards Yong-jun.
Sung-chun arrives at the orphanage with San-jae. While playing, San-jae interrupts a small birthday celebration. The older girl Kim Yeon-soo and her younger friend Kim Sae-na, are celebrating their birthday ; as they never knew the actual date of their births, they had decided this day to be their birthdays. Yeon-soo had drawn a picture as a gift for Sae-na but Sae-na is unhappy about it, witnessing this, San-jae gives her his watch, Sae-na is elated. However, Yeon-soo is adamant about receiving gifts without a proper reason. To pacify her, San-jae takes her drawing in return.
Yeon-soo scalds Sae-na accidentally, Sung-chun, present at the orphanage rushes the little girl to the hospital. Since then, Yeon-soo vows to take good care of Sae-na .It is finally time for Yeon- soo to leave the orphanage. Although both Yeon-soo and Sae-na are sad about leaving each other, Yeon-soo has to do so in order to provide a better future for Sae-na. On the day of her departure, Yeon-soo promises Sae-na they will reunite at the Seoul Tower on their birthday. She gives Sae-na a ring to wear around her neck as a rememberance.
San-jae has done well in his studies and gained entrance into medical school. Sung-chun is excited about his success. As they are celebrating, Min-chul returns. He has just completed his studies overseas. He is upset about his father's indifference towards his sister's absence. Myong-ja tells him that Min-ji is staying with her grandmother. Arriving at his grandmother's home, he finds his grandmother at her deathbed, he promises her that he will take good care of his sister. With his grandmother's death, Min-chul's hatred for his family intensifies, he swears that he will not let Myong-ja, San-jae and his father live happily.
Yeon-soo leads a hard life in Seoul, juggling her studies and a job. This day, she receives a shocking call from the orphanage : Sae-na was accused of stealing and she had ran away. Sae-na finally calls her, relieved, they set an appointment to meet at the Seoul Tower. While Sae-na is happily waiting for Yeon Soo to arrive, Yeon-soo meets with an accident. Unaware of the real reason behind Yeon-soo's absence, Sae-na leaves in a fit of anger.Since then, Yeon-soo would wait at the tower every Christmas, in hope of reuniting with Sae-na but her wait proved to be futile.
Yeon-soo finds a good friend in a spirited girl, Kang Na-rae. They are working together at Victory Records as retail assistants. Yeon Soo could not forget the little boy she met at the orphanage, she knows he is the son of the owner of Victory Records. She tells Na-rae that she has a higher chance of meeting Sae-na if she continues to work at Victory Records. This is because Sae-na has dreams of becoming a singer and she might turn up at Victory Records one day.
Min-chul's new appointment at his father's company has driven the company in a new direction. Today, is the day of a music award events and he expects his singer to excel. He tells his employees of a celebration at the disco after work. Due to a publicity contest, many winners have gathered at the entrance waiting to meet the singer and the situation is getting out of control. As the singer is late and unable to fulfill the meeting session, Min-chul starts to think of an alternative. Grabbing the singer's outfit, he moves about the retail floor scouting for a suitable stand-in. He spots Yeon-soo, dresses her in the outfit and drags her out of the store to divert the attention of dozens of fans. He pushes her into a waiting vehicle and drives away. At the main road, he instructs the driver to stop and orders Yeon-soo out without any explanation and drives away.
Still in a daze, Yeon-soo returns to the store and overhears her co-workers talking about Min-chul. Then did she realise that he is the son of the owner. She recalls her encounter with the young boy at the orphanage and wonders if Min-chul is the little boy. Just then, they were alerted to the presence of a thief. Yeon-soo spots the thief in a red cap, gives chase and catches her , to her horror, the thief is none other than Sae-na. Sae-na pulls away and escapes.
[ Last edited by goggle7724 on 12-8-2003 at 04:16 PM ] |
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BD Episode 2
Yeon-soo returns to the store, dejected. Her supervisor suspects her of being in cahoots with Sae- na and gives her a thrashing down. Na-rae, stands up for Yeon-soo and enters into an argument with her. To resolve the dispute, Yeon-soo tells her supervisor that she will pay for the stolen merchandise.Yeon-soo confides in Na-rae that the thief is actually her long-lost sister, Sae-na. Na-rae is taken aback by Yeon-soo's revelation. Yeon-soo is perplexed about the drastic change in Sae-na, she wonders if Sae-na has given up her dream of being a singer and vows to guide Sae-na back in the right direction.
Sae-na returns to her place of residence. She has been living in a run-down club. Her attention is riveted on Min-chul whom she sees on the music awards brodcast. She makes a note to remember that he is her chance to stardom.Na-rae insists that Yeon-soo join the others at the disco for the celebration; Yeon-soo attends reluctantly. At the disco, she sees a young girl making a scene ; she was drunk and removing her clothes. Yeon-soo thought of her rebellious sister and walks up to the girl, shielding her with her coat and telling her to stop making a scene. The girl splashes a cup of drink at Yeon-soo. Just then, Min-chul arrives and apologises to Yeon Soo, he drags the girl away. Na-rae is shock to realise that the young girl is Min-chul's sister, Min-ji.
San-jae meets Min-chul at the entrance of their house, he hands a bouquet of flowers to Min-chul, congratulating him on his win but Min-chul is too pre-occupied with Min-ji to pay him any attention. Not wanting to bring attention to their father, they entered by the back door, however, Sung-chun discovers Min-ji's drunken state her scolds her. Another argument ensues.In her room, Min-ji pours out her displeasure staying at home. Min-chul is troubled by his sister's rebellious nature and is at a loss. Myong-ja brings Min Ji a drink but Min-ji reciprocates her kindness by throwing it back at her. Min-chul apologises to Myong-ja. Myong-ja cuts her finger while picking up the broken glass, San-jae is upset by Myong-ja's predicament.
Sung-chun is celebrating with his friends at home, he proudly introduces San-jae to them. Min-chul, witnesses the scene and is clearly affected. Upset, San-jae takes a ride on his bike, he knocks into Sae-na accidentally. He is relieved that she has not sustained any injuries. Bored and alone, Sae-na asks him to treat her to supper, San-jae obliges. Sae-na reveals to San-jae that she was betrayed by someone she loves dearly, San-jae assumes she is lost in love.
San-jae hears Sae-na singing a song repeatedly, Sae-na tells him the song is a composition from her favorite composer, lyricist and singer: Zero. Zero is a musician who publishes his music on the Internet. San-jae invites Sae-na to listen to Zero's music together, this will be his Christmas gift to her.
On the way back to the disco, Min-chul spots Yeon-soo. He stops his car and expresses his thanks to her for shielding Min-ji earlier. Yeon-soo could not forget the little boy and fixed her stare on him, an amused Min-chul bid her farewell and drives away.
Tomorrow is Christmas day and Yeon-soo hopes to meet Sae-na at the tower. She tells Na-rae to apply a day off at work on her behalf. Yeon-soo arrives at the tower but Sae-na fails to turn up. Na-rae arrives at the tower and urges Yeon-soo to give up the wait. Unable to dispel her sorrow, Na-rae can only console her friend.Yeon-soo arrives at work and is told that Min-chul wants to see her. Assuming it is because of the stolen merchandise, Yeon-soo apologises to Min-chul and assumes responsibility but urges him not to terminate her service. Min-chul is curious about Yeon Soo's insistence about working at Victory Records despite her academic qualifications, he teases her about falling for him. Yeon-soo explains that she is waiting for someone. Despite her rejection, Min-chul insists she accepts his gift of a new apparel in replacement for the one that Min-ji had soiled the night before.
It is the day of a singing audition at Victory Records. Sae-na arrives to try her luck but enters into an argument with Min-ji and her friend Hwang Kum-suk. While Min-chul is breaking up the fight, Sae- na rushes in and hops on stage to sing but she was buzzed off almost immediately. Unsatisfied, she asks Min-chul for his comments, Min-chul affirms that she is not cut out to be a singer. Faced with Min-ji and Kum-suk's jeering, she dashes at them but was held back by Yeon-soo.
The two sisters finally meet at the cafe for a talk. Sae-na, still angry with Yeon-soo, injected much sarcasm into the conversation. She insists that Yeon-soo visits her place of residence and gives her the impression that she is working as a club hostess. Witnessing Sae-na's poor state, Yeon-soo could not contain her sadness and runs out of the club crying. Sae-na rushes out in tears, she badly wants to make up with Yeon-soo but her ego proves to be too strong.
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Originally posted by yellow belmont at 2003-8-12 01:51 PM:
betul ler tu 
sandarkan pada kenangan ke yellow???  |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-8-12 01:05 PM:
Kalau nak beli vcd BD carilah edaran ALFA EQUITY sebab it's in Korean. Yang lain are all Mandarin-dubbed. Tapi maybe now dah ada more Korean version di pasaran. Saya pun dah lama tak survey vcd ni. ...
hai katt...
goggle postkan episod guide kat sini sikit demi sikitlah,sbb nak post byk sekali,masa x cukup lak.bak kata org kat office ni,sambil myelam sambil minum air .goggle harap episod guide ni x spoilkan sesiapa yg blm tgk BD (u^jin x kisah kan.. ).bg goggle,wpun baca episod guide,tp ada juga part yg kita nak tgk sendiri macamana mereka mlakonkannya kan..
selamat mbaca... |
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Originally posted by Duta lover at 2003-8-12 03:33 PM:
yah yah
aku terer
tp napa ex pulak...
hmm takpela...personal ni...
jgn ditanya duta..nanti mlukakan hati yellow. |
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BD Episode 3
Yeon-soo arrives at work the following morning, still unable to forget the scene with Sae-na. Min-chul arrives and witness her tears through the glass window, unable to stop himself, he starts to wipe her tears through the window. His actions leaves Yeon-soo in a daze. Regaining her composure, Yeon-soo runs after him. In his office, she begs him to groom Sae-na. Min-chul promises to meet Sae-na without any obligations.
Min-chul receives a call from the police station to bail Min-ji. Min-ji and her delinquent friends have been caught spraying graffitti on public walls. Min-chul tells Min-ji to show him her artwork. Seeing her talent for art, Min-chul persuades Min-ji to enrol into art school and reveals that it is the wish for their mother for Min-ji to study art. This night, Min-ji is feeling happy since a long while as she is spending time with her beloved brother.
The sibling's happiness is short-lived. Upon reaching home, Sung-chun lashes out at Min-ji, Min-ji directs her anger at Myong-ja. San-jae, unable to withstand his mother being the centre of blame all these years, defends his mother and engages into a confrontation with Min-chul.Min-chul, weary of the earlier happenings, returns to the company. He is surprised to see Yeon-soo busy at work. Teasing her a little, he makes her a cup of tea. Yeon-soo is deeply touched by Min Chul's sensitive ways. Min-chul insists on giving Yeon-soo a ride home and he enquires about Yeon- Soo's relationship with Sae-na. Yeon-soo's love for Sae-na strikes a chord in him. Na-rae could not stop teasing Yeon-soo after she saw Min-chul dropping her off at home.
The next day, Yeon-soo arrives at the club to look for Sae-na and persuades Sae-na to move in with her but is met with her refusal. An upset Sae-na calls San-jae to meet her and confides in him. Sae-na is upset that she has not been short-listed in Victory Records's talent search, she writes an e-mail to Zero to express her frustrations.
Kum-suk has been shortlisted in the talent search, she and Min-ji are celebrating at the club where Sae-na is working. Min-ji and Kum-suk could not resist taunting Sae-na ; in a fit of anger, Sae-na sets fire to their room . Min-chul and Yeon-soo arrive at the scene, unaware that both their sisters has gotten into a fight. Min-chul sends Min-ji home while Yeon-soo pleads with the manager of the club to forgive Sae-na. Yeon-soo is clearly aware that Sae-na is ruining her life because she has no dreams to hold her down, at this thought, Yeon-soo pains deeply. |
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Let's share & discuss your thoughts on Beautiful Days
Originally posted by goggle7724 at 2003-8-12 02:44 PM:
hai katt...
goggle postkan episod guide kat sini sikit demi sikitlah,sbb nak post byk sekali,masa x cukup lak.bak kata org kat office ni,sambil myelam sambil minum air .goggle harap episod guide ni x spoilkan sesiapa yg blm tgk BD (u^jin x kisah kan.. ).bg goggle,wpun baca episod guide,tp ada juga part yg kita nak tgk sendiri macamana mereka mlakonkannya kan..
selamat mbaca...
Thanks goggle....
Harapnya u^jin tak pening kepala pulak. Maybe we should go slow with the episode guides. So, u^jin & others too, tell us what do you think. Hopefully the guides doesn't spoil anything.....
Insya Allah, saya akan cuba pastekan gambar to make the guides more interesting.....goggle, too?
To others:
Nak minta pendapat those yang dah tengok Beautiful Days ni, tak kisahlah masa on TV2 dulu atau pun vcdnya.
About
1 - your most memorable scene(s) dalam Beautiful Days, yang menarik, gembira, sedih, funny etc?
2 - pandangan terhadap characters, tak kiralah yang utama atau sampingan
3 - mesej berguna from the drama, jika ada
4 - is it a good idea kalau TV2 or any other station ulang drama ni?
5 - apa-apa yang relevan to BD.....bad points, maybe? |
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BD Episode 4
After sending Min-ji home, Min-chul returns to the scene of the fight. He meets Yeon-soo and they enter a diner to have a talk. Min-chul mentions Yeon-soo earlier request to groom Sae-na, in returns, he wants Yeon-soo to move into his home to guide Min-ji. Min-chul is prepared to give Yeon-soo a ride home but she rejects his offer and moves on to the subway. Impulsively, Min-chul follows her to take a subway ride.Min-chul's spontaneous ways are starting to mesmerize Yeon-soo.
Yeon-soo draws out her entire savings to compensate the manager of the club. Sae-na is enraged by her actions and demands her manager to return the money to Yeon-soo but he refuses, he hopes Sae-na leaves his club so as to avoid further troubles. Once again, a frustrated Sae-na writes to Zero, pouring out her troubles. Zero replied with a consolation, Sae-na is estactic.
Sae-na looks for San-jae again and got a treat out of him. She tells him she is penniless and San -jae agrees to pay for her new clothes for her meeting at Victory Records the next day. She gives San-jae her ring, given to her by Yeon-soo, and tells him she will repay his kindness when she becomes a famous singer at Victory Records. Sae-na insists at lodging at a motel, San-jae is worried about her safety and tells her to be careful. Sae-na is happy that San-jae cares for her.
The next day, the new talents gathers at Victory Records and they are introduced to the respective executives. The appointed trainer, Oh Jung-hun seems to have his sights set on Sae-na. Sae-na spots Sung-chun, approaches him and expresses her thanks towards him for sending her to the hospital when she was at the orphanage. Sung-chun recalls the incident and is surprised that she has join his company as a potential singer. He encourages her to do well in her career.
Yeon-soo's supervisor notices Sae-na and finds her familiar, Yeon-soo fears that she will realise that Sae-na was the thief and ruin her career, she quickly distracts her attention. Na-rae grabs Sae-na and brings her along to meet Yeon Soo. Yeon-soo has kept her agreement with Min-chul a secret from Sae-na, she tells Sae-na she has found a job as a live-in tutor and urges her to move in with Na-rae. Sae-na, unaware that she has gotten into Victory Records with Yeon-soo's help, proudly informs her of the news and warns her not to acknowledge her even if they should meet in the company. Na-rae promises Yeon Soo that she will get Sae-na to move in with her as she has hopes of becoming her manager in the future.
Yeon-soo thanks Min-chul for his help and tells him to keep mum their agreement from Sae-na, he agrees. Min-chul is pleased that she will be fulfilling her side of the agreement soon and gives her a cell phone. He tells her the cell phone is only for both their use.
Na-rae is angry that Yeon-soo is moving soon but understands that she is doing it for Sae-na. She is worried that Min-ji will make life difficult for Yeon-soo, Yeon-soo appeases her. Na-rae promises Yeon-soo that she will take good care of Sae-na. Yeon-soo expresses her gratitude to Na-rae for taking such good care of her.It is pouring heavily, while Yeon-soo is on her way to Min-chul's house. San-jae, who was on the same bus with her, hands her an umbrella and offers to carry her luggage. San-jae is surprised that that they have arrived at the same destination. At this time, Min-chul returns and takes over the luggage from San-jae, he informs him that Yeon-soo is Min-ji's governess. Sung-chun expresses his displeasure about engaging Yeon-soo as a governess for Min-ji, however, Min-chul's defends his decision.
Min-chul briefly explains to Yeon-soo about his estranged family and hopes she will do her best to guide Min-ji. Min-ji returns and is unhappy to find Yeon-soo in her room. Knowing the reason for Yeon-soo's presence, she barges into her brother's room and demands an explanation. Min-chul patiently explains that Yeon-soo will be able to help her come to grips with her life. He urges her to be patient and co-operates with Yeon-soo. Understanding her brother's love for her, Min-ji reluctanly agrees. |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-8-12 04:20 PM:
Thanks goggle....
Harapnya u^jin tak pening kepala pulak. Maybe we should go slow with the episode guides. So, u^jin & others too, tell us what do you think. Hopefully the guides doesn't ...
InsyaAllah katt,kalau goggle jumpa pic yg menarik tu,goggle akan pastekan kat sini.cuma maybe xdelah nak paste sekali dgn episode guide sbb dah satu episod tu pun dah lebih limit kat sini .mmm..goggle akan postkan episode guide BD sikit demi sikit,so sapa yg blm tgk lg blh baca episode guide BD ni tanpa pening kepala kan.. |
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Originally posted by goggle7724 at 2003-8-12 02:39 PM:
sandarkan pada kenangan ke yellow???
err..ntahlah :stp: |
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Originally posted by goggle7724 at 2003-8-12 04:06 PM:
jgn ditanya duta..nanti mlukakan hati yellow.
takpe..its ok :2cool: |
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Originally posted by katt at 2003-8-12 04:08 PM:
Since yellow belmont dah dengan rela hati (dalam terpaksa) mengaku......
ngko ler punya pasal :cf:
Here's something for you. Ini bukan perli tapi 'a gift' for being so sporting and cool about it. Enjoy......:2cool: ...
anyway..thanks for the pic ;)
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sekian dulu off topic hari ini..mari kita sambung citer pasal BD :2cool: |
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Back to Beautiful Days
Oklah, cerita pasal yellow belmont dah tamat. Sekian, terima kasih :2cool:.
Sekarang kita concentrate pasal Beautiful Days.......
Probably about:
1 - your most memorable scene(s) dalam Beautiful Days, yang menarik, gembira, sedih, funny etc?
2 - pandangan terhadap characters, tak kiralah yang utama atau sampingan
3 - mesej berguna from the drama jika ada
4 - is it a good idea kalau TV2 or any other station ulang drama ni?
5 - apa-apa yang relevan to BD....the bad points, perhaps?
*goggle, keep on posting the episode guide for us......:bg:.
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Post time 12-8-2003 02:03 PM
