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Reply #60 free2rhyme's post
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yes... but you are asking me the validity of the reincarnation theory |
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Reply #61 wei_loon5063's post
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that means Buddhism is actually a belief because you can't verify it , you just have faith ? |
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Reply #62 free2rhyme's post
faith is what religion is all about... don`t you agree??
base on al quran you believe the existance of allah....  |
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Reply #61 wei_loon5063's post
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we can use our reason to verify something that we can't see, can't we? |
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Reply #64 free2rhyme's post
you cant see god.. you cant see heaven you cant see hell... how are you going to verify it? or can you?? if yes then how?
your reason?? what reason? scientific or religion?
the supernatural world and supernatural being is something beyond our imagination.... but you can feel it... when you pray.. do you feel the existence of god? |
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Reply #63 wei_loon5063's post
in your post #16 : "it teaches us to be better human in our life.... some non buddist also can agree with the phylosophy as it has nothing to do with god.... "
it has nothing to do with God but it has everything to do with the unseen...  since reincarnation is an unseen theory right? |
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Reply #66 free2rhyme's post
nice word twister.... are you a lawyer?
yes.. it is an unseen "theory" that is accepted by buddist by faith.... |
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Reply #65 wei_loon5063's post
you cant see god..
I can see His creations as proof of His existence
you cant see heaven you cant see hell...
I can see the reason for the existence of hell and paradise
how are you going to verify it? or can you?? if yes then how?
By using common sense, by using reason .....
your reason?? what reason? scientific or religion?
scientific and religion .... both
the supernatural world and supernatural being is something beyond our imagination....
true, but we can use our common sense to verify the unseen... not scientifically of course.
but you can feel it... when you pray.. do you feel the existence of god?
For people who believe in God yes but you said yourself that you don't believe in God so how does that apply to reincarnation? Can you feel the reincarnation? Do you pray to the reincarnation?
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Reply #67 wei_loon5063's post
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I don't twist people's words, I just like to verify them , to understand them instead of swallowing them whole without thinking |
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I can see His creations as proof of His existence
i can see that too.... and i still wonder why, how, who, when... all the time
true, but we can use our common sense to verify the unseen... not scientifically of course
aren`t common sense= skeptic?? we cant accept waht we are not used to
For people who believe in God yes but you said yourself that you don't believe in God so how does that apply to reincarnation? Can you feel the reincarnation? Do you pray to the reincarnation?
no..... like i said.. the meaning of praying in buddism is totally different in islam...
i practise buddism for good deeds and free my mind from hatred and be a better person.. ( like other person) but not to pray to reincarnate better next life |
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Reply #67 wei_loon5063's post
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if it is an unseen theory accepted by faith then that means Buddhism has nothing to do with philosophy since philosophy means the use of reason to understand .... |
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Reply #65 wei_loon5063's post
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common sense = the basic level of practical knowledge and judgment that we all need to help us live in a reasonable and safe way so as not to be manipulated or deceived or fooled |
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Reply #71 free2rhyme's post
from my understanding of religion, it is pray the ultimate god...
which is abrahamic religion like jewism, islam and christian
but buddism is nothing like tat... so if it is not a phylosophy (sorry)
then it is classified as dharmatic religion
what do you mean by unseen theory?? |
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Reply #73 wei_loon5063's post
Well, since Buddha had no way of knowing the truth of reincarnation since he was still alive when he came up with the theory and now he is dead thus he has no way of telling you of the truthfulness of his theory thus his theory can safely be referred to as unseen theory....  |
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Reply #73 wei_loon5063's post
so what makes you want to swallow whole his theory or what makes you want to have faith in his theory?
[ Last edited by free2rhyme at 8-4-2007 10:19 PM ] |
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Reply #76 wei_loon5063's post
if you wan, i can tell you more chinese after life theories 
it is now taken as culture, folklore, legend and myth... not as religion |
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Reply #70 wei_loon5063's post
I can see His creations as proof of His existence
i can see that too.... and i still wonder why, how, who, when... all the time
then what makes you don't want to believe yet in His existence ? You said yourself that you can see the proof of His existence.... |
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Reply #78 free2rhyme's post
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Category: Belia & Informasi
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Post time 8-4-2007 09:30 PM
