what is the punishment for RAPE, INCEST, MOLEST under Christian Law

kompia23

"do remember God gave the Laws & He still can changed the Laws".

You dont know the difference between laws and grace ?

I think you misunderstand me completely. I did said God can changed the Laws. And this is very true indeed. Let me gives you an example... Before the time of Moses, in your opinion did or did not Abraham and his generation ate the forbidden food? I believe so. Because God never forbid them from doing so.... The laws were given only to Moses after the Israelites departed from Eygpt. My question is did God changed the laws? In this case, He clearly did. He allowed before Moses and then He disallowed on Moses time and through Jesus Christ, He allowed it again.

Christians still have to follow the Laws, but we are not punishable anymore under Laws, but under Grace of the Lord. Under Laws when we break them, it is a sin. More laws means more sins would occured. Thus, under Laws, you are not a freeman but a slave to sin. Thus, grace of God come into the picture. Jesus died as a sacrifice to redeem every sins in the world; past, present and future. This is a gracious act of God to mankind. And it is up to man to accept or decline it.

Here are few verses for you to ponder upon:-

Exo 33:19; And the LORD said, "I will cause all mygoodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, theLORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

Rom 5:15-17; But the gift is not like the trespass.For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more didGod's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, JesusChrist, overflow to the many! 16Again,the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: Thejudgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the giftfollowed many trespasses and brought justification. 17Forif, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man,how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of graceand of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man,Jesus Christ.

Rom 5:20; The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21sothat, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign throughrighteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 6:14; For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

Is this the way you trying to cheat people who read your postings ? Or, you are a confused creature....

I'm not a cheater and I don't intent to cheat. Please remove your bias view, or we will never be able to share our knowledge diligently.

Again, I'm not either confuse or cheating, because the Word of God clearly say so.

Regards

[ Last edited by  kompia23 at 24-4-2009 14:17 ]

kompia23

Who cares about your reference. You dont understand what dying means ! Dying and then rose again means your god was faking on you ! He made himself dying and then he made himself rose again... hehehe it seems not real death, but there is element of faking here !

So, what is the purpose of you being here then, if not to discuss about what Christian believe on the death of Jesus Christ. Are you implying that you asking but not wanting the answer? Funny if like that.

As i said before, Jesus did died on the cross. if not His disciples won't record it done in their writing. This is also proven because for the past 2000 years, no one argue on that. Thus, it is the truth, if not, it would have been rebuked at then.

Regards.

kompia23

so if you do bad things to God, and you do not want to admit your mistakes.. what would God do? let you go?

If i did bad things and I did not repent... That would be sin... If i don't admit my sin... I would be in danger of been punished to hell.

God would want me to repent. And He would never let me go, because He loves me. But He has to uphold His standard. Just to judge, without any favourism. If I'm the one who don't admit, I have to be responsible to it not God.

Regards.

gunblade712

so your view of God is that God DOES have retribution-attributes, right?

God WILL punish you if you do bad things and did not repent..

so does this punishment happens on Earth or on the Hereafter?

kompia23

so does this punishment happens on Earth or on the Hereafter?

Some will happens on Earth. Rest will be hereafter.

Rom 12:19; Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," [ Deut. 32:35] says the Lord.

Mat 12:36; But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

Rom 14:12; So then, we will all give an account of ourselves to God.

Heb 4:13; Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Regards

gunblade712

i see..

so when a person did commit sins, and this particular sin is a crime towards another human being, how does Christendom see to this? Do you let this criminal scott-free, or do you take him and punish him for his misconduct against a fellow human being..?

Oreng

Originally posted by kompia23 at 24-4-2009 14:01
As i said before, Jesus did died on the cross. if not His disciples won't record it done in their writing. This is also proven because for the past 2000 years, no one argue on that. Thus, it is the truth, if not, it would have been rebuked at then.

You said jesus died on the cross but then you also believe jesus is resurrected alive. It means jesus is not actually dead ! It is not the real death that we human understand. In human understanding, the death is a faking death. You rely only on the record by his disciples. His disciples never actually seen he died, never check his pulses or did any scientific test to ensure jesus is dead. His disciples rely only on circumstancial evidence. You are being duped actually by His disciples.