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Post time 19-4-2013 09:17 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
This lecherous toothless doggy ustazy is still halucinating that his Zaatarian style imbecilic absurd questions about Chritianity have gone unanswered by Christians when in fact it has been answered zlllion time....oh wait a minute, this demented lecherous ustazy still stand statically in the same spot and day dreaming his surreal victory...good doggy, he is at least a good and obedient doggy to the alpha male doggy, Sami Zaatari.:lol

Why talk about the Triune God when the lecherous ustazy (virtually all muslims) is seriously lacking God wisdom in understanding it ? Poor soul, still unawake even the impending second death is awaiting them in the Revelation..

Allah, a phsycal pagan god(as testified by the lecherous ustazy) which is a created being(being physical), have all the human diabolic lust and of course being a created being, can die !
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Post time 19-4-2013 09:45 AM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 09:17 AM
This lecherous toothless doggy ustazy is still halucinating that his Zaatarian style imbecilic absurd questions about Chritianity have gone unanswered by Christians when in fact it has been answered zlllion time....oh wait a minute, this demented lecherous ustazy still stand statically in the same spot and day dreaming his surreal victory...good doggy, he is at least a good and obedient doggy to the alpha male doggy, Sami Zaatari.:lol

Why talk about the Triune God when the lecherous ustazy (virtually all muslims) is seriously lacking God wisdom in understanding it ? Poor soul, still unawake even the impending second death is awaiting them in the Revelation..

Allah, a phsycal pagan god(as testified by the lecherous ustazy) which is a created being(being physical), have all the human diabolic lust and of course being a created being, can die !

Ha ha , you cannot answer even simple questions with regards to the fundamentals of your faith. Merely claiming that the said questions have been answered a zillion times does not answer the question. The sad fact is that you nor any christians do not have any answers but just beating around the bush trying to imply that you have answered the questions.

Refer to my previous post , the question remains
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide your reasons. Why so scared to answer? You need to look for your testicles first before answering or what?

Ha ha , now you claim that one needs God's wisdom to understand the Trinity? You possess God's wisdom? Are you implying that you don't even understand the Trinity? Then why believe in something you don't understand? I thought you claim to be an intellect who had made a very careful investigation.

This is the strawman of year .... to you Allah is a physical created being? Again , this is what happen when you learn islam from 'proF' Sam Solomon and / or 'dR' Ali Sina. Ha ha ....

Since you are in adoration of Br Sami Zaatari , his apologetic site is muslim responses. Have fun going thru it.

You follow the religion of biblical Jesus or the religion about biblical Jesus? Answer lah , don't be shy nor scared .... ha ha.

You must be the angriest man in the world. Not tiring that you are fuming mad all the time? Do you actually know what you are fuming mad about? Ha ha .... poor you.

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sam1528 posted on 19-4-2013 09:45 AM
Ha ha , you cannot answer even simple questions with regards to the fundamentals of your faith. Me ...
Refer to my previous post , the question remains
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide your reasons. Why so scared to answer? You need to look for your testicles first before answering or what?
you sound like the zombie guy ..thin like sick fella....zakir naik...i noticed each time muslims question about Holy spirit and Jesus...they been cursed....just like the deedat after mocking  Jesus he was totally cacat.....
now the tootless ustaz....hahahhah

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Post time 19-4-2013 04:20 PM | Show all posts
The lecherous ustazy statement from post #22; "Nobody is arguing about God , a physical being(s). You are arguing on a strawman. " and yet his statement in post #42 he wrote; "This is the strawman of year .... to you Allah is a physical created being? Again , this is what happen when you learn islam from 'proF' Sam Solomon and / or 'dR' Ali Sina. Ha ha ...."

This lecherous toothless doggy ustazy really perfect his art of deception from his alpha male doggy guru Sami Zaatari who has been proven repeatedly to be just another muslim charlatans pretending to be a Bible scholar. http://www.answering-islam.org/rebuttals/zaatari.html.......:)

It's crystal clear now Islamic god is just a physical being limited by quantum of physics as testified countless time here by muslims. It is just like any other man made god which has all the limitation of a created physical being and being a created being....will sure be PERISHABLE !
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Post time 19-4-2013 04:36 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 19-4-2013 11:11 AM
you sound like the zombie guy ..thin like sick fella....zakir naik...i noticed each time muslims question about Holy spirit and Jesus...they been cursed....just like the deedat after mocking  Jesus he was totally cacat.....
now the tootless ustaz....hahahhah

Ha ha , like I stated - I am starting to have pity on you and 'wkk5159'. You guys have this pathological fear in answering questions about the fundamentals of your faith. Yet you want to engage in comparative religion. I repeat my issue
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide reasons for your answer. I cannot understand why you are so scared to answer. If you are unable to do mental arithmetic , use your fingers.

The following is the painting of the triune Godhead by Diego Velazquez (Coronation of the Virgin) , in Museo del Prado I believe.


How many God(s) do we have. BTW , the dove is the depiction of the Holy Spirit. Can you now count just how many God(s) in the triune Godhead?

Ha ha , if you are scared to answer then way start any Islam - Christianity debate? You are a coward , yes? Now you are trying to threaten people that the Holy Spirit cannot be questioned. Where in the bible that state such? Do you read much less understand the bible?

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Post time 19-4-2013 04:41 PM | Show all posts
Certain retarded muslim here is having tough time appreciating the wonderful Triune God, i think i better give a simple analogy for him or else his condition of echolalia is worsening....

Water is fully H2O          Father is fully God
Steam is fully H2O          Son is fully God
Ice is fully H2O               Holy Spirit is fully God

But we don't have 3 different molecules but only one common molecule, That is H2O !

Likewise, we don't have 3 different God but only one God, That's our Lord Jesus Christ ! Hallelujah !
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Post time 19-4-2013 05:03 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 17-4-2013 07:00 PM
divination more than miracles not parting red sea...Jesus fasted more than 40days...Jesus remain ...

Sorry Truth.8, your not making a point here.

You told us this :

When Jesus was in earth, he did  so many  miracle and etc...that show He is equal to God throne...when come end times, it will the Messiah Jesus will judge us....


So I am just reminding you that Jesus wasn't the only person, according to the Bible, that performed miracles. Moses performed miracles too. Hence, miracles are not proof of divination;  unless you want to tell me that Moses is also a part of your 'trinity'.

Fasting also doesn't prove divination. There are people, even in today's modern world, that can fast for 40 days. So I'm sorry, this 'proof' of yours is still invalid.

Screwing underage girl? I don't understand why are you stating this but I believe that John the Baptist also did not 'screw any underage girl' so is he divine, too? I don't think so.

So nope, I'm sorry. You haven't provide a single proof that Jesus is divine. Plus, we have answered your question, that Jesus Christ is not divine, but he is merely a messenger of God. We have answered with proof of your allegations that "Muslims do not answer the questions."

I believe you should remain silence, for you're only making a fool of yourself.
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Post time 19-4-2013 05:04 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 04:20 PM
The lecherous ustazy statement from post #22; "Nobody is arguing about God , a physical being(s). You are arguing on a strawman. " and yet his statement in post #42 he wrote; "This is the strawman of year .... to you Allah is a physical created being? Again , this is what happen when you learn islam from 'proF' Sam Solomon and / or 'dR' Ali Sina. Ha ha ...."

This lecherous toothless doggy ustazy really perfect his art of deception from his alpha male doggy guru Sami Zaatari who has been proven repeatedly to be just another muslim charlatans pretending to be a Bible scholar. http://www.answering-islam.org/rebuttals/zaatari.html.......:)

It's crystal clear now Islamic god is just a physical being limited by quantum of physics as testified countless time here by muslims. It is just like any other man made god which has all the limitation of a created physical being and being a created being....will sure be PERISHABLE !...

Ha ha , like I stated , I am starting to have pity on you. You are so scared to answer questions with regards to the fundamentals of your own faith. Now you are trying hard to side track the issues. Ok then , explain what is your issue with the following :
- '.. Nobody is arguing about God , a physical being(s). You are arguing on a strawman  ..'
- '.. This is the strawman of year .... to you Allah is a physical created being? Again , this is what happen when you learn islam from 'proF' Sam Solomon and / or 'dR' Ali Sina. Ha ha ..'

Ha ha , are you not arguing on the strawman that Allah is a created being? Aiyoyo .... you seem to suffer from short term memory loss. Is your embarrassment taking toll on you?

Apa daa tambi , you can talk about bro Sami Zaatari but you are now facing me in this debate. The point here is that if you compare the writeups in 'answering Islam' against what bro Zaatari wrote , 'answering Islam' has lost an lost big time.

You still need to answer the following :
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide reasons for your answer. I cannot understand why you are so scared to answer. If you are unable to do mental arithmetic , use your fingers.

Why are you so scared to answer? Lost your testicles or what?

Ha ha , Allah is a man made God? You are getting more and more zany. Evidence? As usual , none. How to believe you? The bible states that biblical Jesus has a God and he as a matter of fact state that the said God is also your God , joh20:17
....I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God

This is funny. Biblical Jesus admitted that he has a God which is the same God in which you should worship. Somehow or rather you worship biblical Jesus. It is biblically clear that you follow the religion about biblical Jesus (Pauline Christianity) rather than the religion of biblical Jesus.

Sad but true .... ha ha. Oops .... hang on folks ... 'wkk5159' will start frothing in his mouth & gnashing his teeth. You good folks better get your rabies shot. Ha ha .... you are the angriest person in the world. Is it not tiring?

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Post time 19-4-2013 05:06 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 04:41 PM
Certain retarded muslim here is having tough time appreciating the wonderful Triune God, i think i b ...

when a water is in it's water form, it cannot be water and steam at the same time. The same goes for steam. When H2O turned to steam, it cannot be water and steam. It can only be in one form at a time, unless if you have 'multiple body' of H2O (i.e you have a cold water AND an ice, two H2Os, in the same cup)

Though I respect your metaphor, I don't think it can befit your ideology of Triune God or whatever you call it, as it's proven to be insufficient to explain it.
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Post time 19-4-2013 05:16 PM | Show all posts
gunblade712 posted on 19-4-2013 05:06 PM
when a water is in it's water form, it cannot be water and steam at the same time. The same goes f ...

Can't blame you for being a genuine science illiterate muslim !

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Post time 19-4-2013 05:33 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 04:41 PM
Certain retarded muslim here is having tough time appreciating the wonderful Triune God, i think i better give a simple analogy for him or else his condition of echolalia is worsening....

Water is fully H2O          Father is fully God
Steam is fully H2O          Son is fully God
Ice is fully H2O               Holy Spirit is fully God

But we don't have 3 different molecules but only one common molecule, That is H2O !

Likewise, we don't have 3 different God but only one God, That's our Lord Jesus Christ ! Hallelujah !

Ha ha , you are appealing to the 'triple point of water' argument?
Water is fully H2O          Father is fully God
Steam is fully H2O          Son is fully God
Ice is fully H2O               Holy Spirit is fully God

Can the same ice , water and steam coexist separately and in all environments? You claim your triune Godhead can coexist separately. Ha ha , the 'ice - water - steam' argument is for people who cannot think logically. Yet you claim to be an intellect?

I need to remid you , if you believe in the 'ice - water - steam' argument , you are committing the heresy of 'modalism' - 1 being 3 different modes or manifestation. Ha ha , you are now a heretic.

Lets start again -
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide reasons for your answer. I cannot understand why you are so scared to answer. If you are unable to do mental arithmetic , use your fingers.

Poor you. In a feeble and illogical attempt to answer me , you've committed heresy. Ha ha , you are now a heretic. You need be careful , 'truth.8' might burn you at the stake .... ha ha


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Post time 19-4-2013 06:13 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 05:16 PM
Can't blame you for being a genuine science illiterate muslim !

thank you for not blaming me. so enlighten me. The three subjects cannot exist in all three forms at the same time. If you have an ice cube and a glass of water, you have two existence; the ice AND the water.

Let's take only ONE existence; let's take the science of how the clouds/rain is form. For the sake of the discussion, let's take a lake. The heat of the climate heats up the lake, hence the lake transform into steam. The steam is no longer a body of water, but in fact, a steam. Correct?

So the lake and the steam cannot coexist at the same time. H2O must abandon it's initial form to evolve into another form; water -> steam. Correct?

If I am wrong, sir, then please correct me. How can a body of water becomes water and steam at the same time?

Seeing that it's your example and it's your metaphore, I believe you alone can explain to us 'science illiterate Muslims' on how 'science literated Christians' like you, understands as to how a single H2O can be both water and steam and ice at the same time.

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. (Glorious Quran; 4:171) http://quran.com/4/171

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Post time 19-4-2013 08:04 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 19-4-2013 04:41 PM
Certain retarded muslim here is having tough time appreciating the wonderful Triune God, i think i b ...
Certain retarded muslim here is having tough time appreciating the wonderful Triune God, i think i better give a simple analogy for him or else his condition of echolalia is worsening....

Water is fully H2O          Father is fully God
Steam is fully H2O          Son is fully God
Ice is fully H2O               Holy Spirit is fully God

But we don't have 3 different molecules but only one common molecule, That is H2O !

Likewise, we don't have 3 different God but only one God, That's our Lord Jesus Christ ! Hallelujah !
one common molecule,but different state

Water = liquid
Steam = Gas
Ice = Solid

So,now.3 gods or 1 god??????????



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Post time 20-4-2013 08:59 PM | Show all posts
The muslims here really lacking the most basic common sense and the very fundamental intelligence to understand the simple analogy i put forward. That's the consequences when one's mind is being constantly intoxicated with spurious doctrines since childhood.

This is just a simple analogy to assist you Allah retarded mind to hopefully able to comprehend the nature of God, Bear in mind these Water, Ice and Steam thingy are not God ! Got it ?

By the way, did i ever mention that these three,  water, ice and steam which i simile it with Father, Son and Holy Spirit are existed in the same enviroment at any given time and space ???

Take example Son (Jesus Christ), he came to earth and was born a human, He was definitely in a different enviroment as the Father ( Godhead), how on earth do you think human will be able to see and feel Jesus if He didn't came in flesh ??? Use your cerebral neuron muslim !




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Post time 20-4-2013 09:22 PM | Show all posts
sam1528 posted on 19-4-2013 05:33 PM
Ha ha , you are appealing to the 'triple point of water' argument?

Can the same ice , water and ...

Hey lecherous toothless doggy ustazy, still got the testicular fortitute to call true Christians heretic ?
Didn't Hamas decapitated your doggy head already last time around when you annoyingly try to associate yourself with Jewish rabbi......i'm sure that rabbi want a piece of you too.

Until now you still haven't figured out the mystery of Triune God ah ??? Poor doggy......anyway i don't expect you to understand since with that under average intelligence of yours coupled with constant indoctrination of your doggy brain with Islamic nonsense since chilhood, your prognosis sure not very optimistic in the eye of a physician like me....

Why your Allah is just a physical being as advocated by you and the quran ???

Physical being is confined by quantum of physic and this imply that it is a created being, understand ?

Does it mean that your Allah need to eat, drink, shit, pee, sleep and fxxk like a God created creature, a physical being ?

Being a pysical being, it is destructible and finite !

From the enthusiastic reply you've given, i guess the answer is defnitely a YES !
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Post time 20-4-2013 09:23 PM | Show all posts
gunblade712 posted on 19-4-2013 06:13 PM
thank you for not blaming me. so enlighten me. The three subjects cannot exist in all three forms  ...

Refer my answer in post #54

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Post time 20-4-2013 09:24 PM | Show all posts
cmf_BeachBoys posted on 19-4-2013 08:04 PM
one common molecule,but different state

Water = liquid

Refer my answer in post #54
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Post time 20-4-2013 10:50 PM | Show all posts
wkk5159 posted on 20-4-2013 09:22 PM
Hey lecherous toothless doggy ustazy, still got the testicular fortitute to call true Christians heretic ?
Didn't Hamas decapitated your doggy head already last time around when you annoyingly try to associate yourself with Jewish rabbi......i'm sure that rabbi want a piece of you too.

Until now you still haven't figured out the mystery of Triune God ah ??? Poor doggy......anyway i don't expect you to understand since with that under average intelligence of yours coupled with constant indoctrination of your doggy brain with Islamic nonsense since chilhood, your prognosis sure not very optimistic in the eye of a physician like me....

Why your Allah is just a physical being as advocated by you and the quran ???

Physical being is confined by quantum of physic and this imply that it is a created being, understand ?

Does it mean that your Allah need to eat, drink, shit, pee, sleep and fxxk like a God created creature, a physical being ?

Being a pysical being, it is destructible and finite !

From the enthusiastic reply you've given, i guess the answer is defnitely a YES !

Ha ha , you are a heretic with your appeal to 'modalism' with regard to your 'ice - water - steam' argument for the Trinity. I don't think you even heard of 'modalism' till it being pointed out. The definition of modalism with regards to the trinity :
Modalism was an early heresy which taught that the Persons in the Trinity were "modes" of the One God. In other words, the Father became the Son, and the Son became the Holy Spirit. What we are essentially saying in this analogy is that the one Being of God goes through three different states - which is precisely what Modalists argued.

Water's stages cannot co-exist like the Persons in the Trinity. Water cannot be ice, liquid and steam all at the same time. It can be between two stages, but this is not co-existing so much as transforming from one stage to another.

Modalism is exactly per your argument , post#46
Water is fully H2O          Father is fully God
Steam is fully H2O          Son is fully God
Ice is fully H2O               Holy Spirit is fully God

But we don't have 3 different molecules but only one common molecule, That is H2O !

Either you are trying to lie your way thru (in a hope that we muslims don't know) or you simply don't even know the heresy of 'modalism' (then your knowledge in Christianity is pretty shallow). I believe its a combination of the 2. Now you are a heretic. You better repent else your 'brother in Christ' , 'truth.8' might burn you at the stake. BTW , I am pretty sure 'truth.8' don't even know about 'modalism' but he will not admit it .... same like you .... ha ha

Another problem of your 'ice - water - steam' argument is that 'Triple point of water' exist only at a temp of 273.16K and pressure of 0.6117kPa. Therefore your God , the Trinity , can only exist at such environment of temp and pressure. Ha ha , in other environments , your God , the Trinity cease to exist. Ha ha , this is a self defeating argument. If you say biblical Jesus so called came to earth in the flesh , then there are 2 different environments between him and the Father. However the 'Triple point of water' exist only and specifically in an environment of 273.16K & 0.6117kPa. Ha ha , I thought you are an intellect and scientifically literate. This is fundamental thermodynamic equilibrium with regards to water. This one also don't know aaaah?

Whaaat? To you the Trinity is a mystery? The definition of mystery
something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain

Why believe in something that you don't understand? Such is called blind faith. You claim to have investigated Christianity. Not much of investigation issit?

Try to answer me again :
Lets start again -
- the Father is fully God
- the Son is fully God
- the Holy Spirit is fully God
How many fully God(s) do we have? 1 or 3? Provide reasons for your answer. I cannot understand why you are so scared to answer. If you are unable to do mental arithmetic , use your fingers.

Nobody nor the Quran advocated that Allah is a physical being. Your evidence? None as usual. You are arguing from your fantasy or your wet dreams. Suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. This is an indication that you have lost and lost badly. You are now making up arguments from your fantasy. Data talks bullshit walks .... ha ha

However your God in biblical Jesus
- eat
- drink
- shit
- pee
Are the above the attributes of God? He cannot even tell if it is the season for figs but cursed the tree instead of owning up to the fact that he was simply ignorant , mark11:12-14 / 20-21
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.
13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.
14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots.
21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”

Is this the so called all knowledgeable God that you worship?

Aiyoyo , This mean you follow the religion about biblical Jesus rather than the religion of biblical Jesus. Poor you ...

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Post time 21-4-2013 12:19 AM | Show all posts
This lecherous ustazy statement from post #22; "Nobody is arguing about God , a physical being(s). You are arguing on a strawman. And yet his reply in post # 58; Nobody nor the Quran advocated that Allah is a physical being. Your evidence? None as usual. You are arguing from your fantasy or your wet dreams. Suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. This is an indication that you have lost and lost badly. You are now making up arguments from your fantasy. Data talks bullshit walks .... ha ha

Hey lecherous toothless doggy ustazy, you have been caught with your pant down exposing your stinky necrotic VD infected dicky again and again and yet still haven't learn anything, don't you ? This is the typical muslim we are seeing in this forum much too often, not only deceptive but seriously Alzheimerish and echolalic......

When i mentioned mystery, this Islamic zombie sure having a tougher time in appreciating this meaning.....Job1:7, Col 4:3, Eph 3:3,4....

Hey stupid, you understand what you wrote or not ? Don't go to the distance of explaining the different state of waterini different circumstances, you don't understand it anyway. As per your argument; Father, Son, Holy Spirit = God, (thank you for ackowledging that !) Then Water, Ice and Steam = ???? H2O lah you moron. It doesn't matter what enviroment there are in, they are all still H2O !


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Post time 21-4-2013 12:33 AM | Show all posts
One imbecilic lecherous ustazy sure don't know why Jesus is Son of God....and being Son in the form of flesh, not only a true human but a perfect human(last Adam), and on material earth he sure will eat, drink, pee and shit ( but don't fxxk harems of virgins like Muhammad lah ! ).

p/s- Father and Holy Spirit being in God's dimension(heaven), no need to eat, drink, pee and shit BUT on the contrary Islamic " heaven " are full of munching, boozing, peeing, shiting and even fxxkxxxg....mind you ! This is all truth as viciously testified by the lecherous ustazy.
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