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Kelirukan Penonton! Salah Letak Hukum Anak Tak Sah Taraf, Peguam Syarie Kritik Drama Suamiku Lelaki Pendosa
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Yg iols faham drp tulisan peguam tu, walaupun mak budak tu mengaku dia berzina dan anak tu bukan anak suaminya tapi selagi suaminya tak buat lian' makanya tetap sah nasab budak tu kepada suami maknya tu. Jadi sepatutnya suami maknya tu yg jadi wali dan bukannya guna wali hakim. |
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So conclusion? Malaika tu berbin kan Firdaus dan bukan anak sah taraf?
Wpun mak romen dgn lelaki lain. Berzina. |
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nolya replied at 16-3-2022 09:17 PM
Soal pak sanggup tu satu hal. Tapi jika wanita yg dinikahi mengandungkan anak yg bukan dari benih ...
Dah macam kes si azlee khairi tu je. |
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Tunan replied at 17-3-2022 01:09 AM
Cuba baca balik sampai habis tulisan peguam tu
Mmg sama mcm tulisan Maza sampai habis..
A'ah eh. Aiol lagik fokus baca komen forumer daripada baca A-Z pendapat peguam syarie tu. |
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Seorang suami yg sedar kalau anak trs bukan anaknya, sah tiada dna dia ttpi tidak lakukan li'an, merelakan pula anak tu berbintikan dia, adakah suami itu boleh dianggap bersekongkol dgn dosa dn perzinahan. Yes, taubat nasuhah memang Allah terima ttpi nasa/binti anak itu sendiri, bolehkah ditukargantikan kpd bapa yg tidak membenihkan.
Interesting kalau perkara begini dpt diluruskan dgn penuh hemah dari sudut hukum syari'e itu sendiri. Of course, it shall be rumit untuk dileraikan kerana akan melibatkan maruah dn aib si anak yg tak berdosa, but then keabsahan perwalian anak kena diambil kira juga. Not unless, si bapak tak declare kpd kadhi kedudukan sebenar pertalian dia dgn anak, kadhi tak akan tau. Tapi adakah si bapak tak ada guilty conscious mewalikan anak yg bukan anak kandungnya? Adakah pada akhirnya kita semua harus redha mengatakan 'itu antara bapak dia dgn Tuhan.
Pernah terbaca kesah realiti yg serupa begini di CI ni, suami tau, sedar dn kecewa ttpi mereka tidak bercerai kerana tak ingin timbulkan kekecohan kpd anak2 yg lain.
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dua_chzy replied at 17-3-2022 03:56 PM
A'ah eh. Aiol lagik fokus baca komen forumer daripada baca A-Z pendapat peguam syarie tu.
Ai baru tau fatwa kelahiran n nasab ni macam boleh diubah2 @ fleksibel rupanya |
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Tunan replied at 17-3-2022 08:39 AM
Ai baru tau fatwa kelahiran n nasab ni macam boleh diubah2 @ fleksibel rupanya
Isu ni pernah keluar di CI lamaaaa bertahun dulu. Tu yang ai tau sikit2. |
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nolya replied at 17-3-2022 01:51 PM
OK lah, masyarakat bolehlah berandaian poji lelaki baik yg tetap terima isteri curangnya serta ana ...
Dorg nikah kt pejabat kadi...wali hakim... |
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Edited by Tinot7 at 17-3-2022 10:11 PM
iols pun baru blajaq nih..
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
Ibn Zam'ah and Sa'd (Ibn Abu Waqqas) referred a dispute to the Prophet concerning the son of Zam'ah's slave woman. Sa'd said : " O Messenger of Allah my brother (Utbah bin Abu Waqqas) left instructions in his will that when I come to Makkah, I should look for the son of the slave woman of Zam'ah and take him into my care." 'Abd bin Zam’ah said: "He is my brother and the son of the slave woman of my father; he was born on my father's bed." The Prophet ffi saw that he resembled 'Utbah, and said: "He belongs to you, O 'Abd bin Zam'ah. The child is for the bed. Observe Hijab before him, O Saudah." (sahih)
| Reference | : Sunan Ibn Majah 2004 |
Chapter: The child is for the bed and the fornicator gets nothing
sahih bukhari chapter 48
Hadith No: 719
Narrated/Authority of Aisha
Utba bin Abi Waqqas authorized his brother Sad bin Abi Waqqas to take the son of the slave-girl of Zama into his custody, telling him that the boy was his own (illegal) son. When Allah's Apostle (SAW) went (to Makkah) at the time of the Conquest, Sad took the son of the slavegirl of Zama to Allah's Apostle (SAW) and also brought Abd bin Zama with him and said, "O Allah's Apostle (SAW)! This is the son of my brother Utba who authorised me to take him into my custody." Abd bin Zama said, "O Allah's Apostle (SAW)! He is my brother, the son of Zama's slave-girl and he was born on his bed." Allah's Apostle (SAW) looked at the son of the slave-girl of Zama and noticed much resemblance (to Utba). Allah's Apostle (SAW) said, "It is for you, O Abd bin Zama as he was born on the bed of your father." Allah's Apostle (SAW) then told Sauda bint Zama to observe veil in the presence of the boy as he noticed the boy's resemblance to Utba and Sauda was the wife of the Prophet (SAW).
sahih bukhari chapter 34
[color=rgba(136, 136, 17, 0.667)]Hadith No: 421
Narrated/Authority of Aisha
Sad bin Abi Waqqas and Abd bin Zama quarreled over a boy. Sad said, "O Allah's Apostle! This boy is the son of my brother (Utba bin Abi Waqqas) who took a promise from me that I would take him as he was his (illegal) son. Look at him and see whom he resembles." 'Abd bin Zama said, "O Allah's Apostle! This is my brother and was born on my father's bed from his slave-girl." Allah's Apostle cast a look at the boy and found definite resemblance to Utba and then said, "The boy is for you, O Abd bin Zama. The child goes to the owner of the bed and the adulterer gets nothing but the stones (despair, i.e. to be stoned to death). Then the Prophet said, "O Sauda bint Zama! Screen yourself from this boy." So, Sauda never saw him again.
kiranya apa yg mamat tuh habaq adalah benar, sekiranya tak dinafikan dgn lian, maka nasab berdasarkan lelaki yg bertaraf suami, melainkan dia lafaz lian yang mana ada consequences. iols speku kes tedung ruski dgn mamat serambi mekah tuh isu sama, dah kena lian.
kita tak voley pertikaikan samada si suami bersekongkol atopon tak. sbb hadith sudah mengatakan sebaliknya. elok ikut hadith. bkn tmpt iols utk persoalkan.
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cmf_premierleag replied at 17-3-2022 10:58 AM
Citer bodoh...akak tgk sbb nk tgk part gambit menutoh harun je
Yg lain2 tu sgt2 fake
Asal pi jmpe ba ...
Yeah...acik pun ckp...cite nih..fake sgt...dgn gaya pelakon2nya...
Cakap lemah gemalai...bckp mcm ada intan wal berluan dlm mulut...terkemam2 dah kenapa..
Pastu semua mcm control2...aiyooo..sakitnya kepala...
Rasa best part awal2 yg ada gambit jer..menjadi lentik ngadernya...geram nengok...tp mmg pandai la dia bawa watak tu ..tp tu la...kejap pulak watak dia..
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uda replied at 16-3-2022 03:25 PM
Orang2 ni selalu ambil kesempatan tentang 'waktu 6bulan' ie kalau bersalin within 6 bulan selepas be ...
Btul...walau baby tu bin bpak dia tp dia d kandung sebelum nikah still ank x sah taraf n x boleh kwen berwali kn bpak dia n dia nasab ibu dia 100% ...segala hrta bpak dia x boleh dpt satu sen pon melaui faraid melain kn bpak dia ikhlas bagi dia...klo kata mak pak dia bercerai sekali pun mak dia x bleh tuntut nafkah dkt si bapa walau tu mmg bpak kandung dia ..
Sama jgak mcm nk kwen . Kalau pompuan tu dh pernah berzina n x suci ... Mak bapak pompuan tu kena tanggung seratus peratus mahar perkahwinan ank perempuan mereka. .. n pihak perempuan x layak nk letak harga mahar kepada pihak lelaki atau memintanya . |
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Allah maha pengampun. Anak tu tak berdosa. Mak yg berdosa berzina sampai melahirkan anak. Suami mak nya sanggup lagi terima anak tu walau bukan benih dia. Jadi kenapa la tak boleh di nasab kan kpd suami mak nya. Unless lah suami mak nya mmg tak nak mengaku dia anak. So mmg undang2 syarie dah terbaik lindungi anak2 yg tk berdosa ni. |
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Still tidak boleh berbintikan lelaki yang mengahwini ibu dia wpun lelaki itu jadi pak sanggup. Ini adalah hukum Allah.
Sebab itu jangan berzina. Kena fikir dahulu sebelum berbuat zina. Ini adalah akibatnya.
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Edited by uda at 18-3-2022 09:21 AM
Nak tanya tentang mahram dan aurat.
Bagaiman aurat anak perempuan yang tak sah taraf dengan adik beradik dia yang lain? dengan bapa kpd ibu dia dan adik beradik lelaki ibu dia?
Tkasih
Dah dapat jawapan:
Mereka bukan mahram kepada anak perempuan ini.
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Suchi replied at 17-3-2022 09:04 AM
Kalau ikut apa yg loyer tu ckp camtu sbb mak cahaya tu curang masa masih jd isteri fauzi.
Pastu fa ...
Kan.. Mcm dayus gila la plak laki dia. Pastu pelik plak nk binkan nama dia walhal bkn benih dia. Fening la iols. |
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Tinot7 replied at 17-3-2022 10:09 PM
iols pun baru blajaq nih..
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
kalau gitu hukuman islam bg isteri yg bzina kena rejam tu pun boleh lepas la ek? |
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Rengsek aku tengok aron ajis berlakon! Seropa tak reti berlakon je dia! Macam bbnu baru berjinak2 di dunia lakonan! |
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sebab tu jangan buat maksiat sebelum kahwen... Allah murka.. kesian dekat keturunan sendiri nanti... |
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kalau kena tangkap, kena rejam dulu.. tak sempat veranak lerr.. kalau si suami dpt tau lepas anak dah veranak, dan minta lian, mau kena rejam si isteri.. sbb tu deme tak voley kembali bersama lepas lian, sbb sorang tuh dah takde kena rejam... rasanya la..
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Edited by Drmu at 18-3-2022 10:32 PM
Tinot7 replied at 18-3-2022 04:06 PM
kalau kena tangkap, kena rejam dulu.. tak sempat veranak lerr.. kalau si suami dpt tau lepas anak ...
Ada kisah prempuan tgh mengandung jumpa Nabi Muhammad mngaku yg dia dah berzina. Nabi suruh tunggu dlu. Lahirkan anak, susukan, tunggu smpai anak tu besar n blh makan dgn tangannya, pastu kne carikan kluarga angkat..barulah direjam.Gtulah. I pernah dgr kisah ni mse iol skolah dlu. Huhu
Ni link kisah Tu
https://ayong17.blogspot.com/2011/07/kisah-taubat-seorang-penzina-yang.html?m=1
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Post time 17-3-2022 02:53 PM
Post time 17-3-2022 10:09 PM
