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JTF2 in combat in Afghanistan
Secretive commando unit in high gear conducting counter-insurgency operations, officials confirm


CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA — Canadian special forces soldiers in southern Afghanistan have killed Taliban and Al Qaeda rebels over several operations in recent months as they work secretly in small units, military sources say.

The modest contingent of troops from Joint Task Force 2 is an integral part of coalition efforts to stem the tide of insurgency that has risen since campaigning began for Sunday's parliamentary elections.

JTF2 commandos have joined counterparts from the United States and some British Commonwealth countries, such as Australia, in fighting that has claimed more than 1,200 lives in six months, say the Canadian defence sources.

Authorities wouldn't — or couldn't — put numbers on the dead, but some said there could be dozens.

Some engagements are long-range; others are close-in. Some involve a degree of infiltration into enemy compounds and "behind enemy lines" — though no lines really exist in the mountainous and desert terrain where they operate.

The commandos, some of whom speak a smattering of area dialects, often work in collaboration with locals who know the lay of the land.

Using specialized weapons and equipment, Canadian snipers have played their deadly cat-and-mouse games at night and in the 50-degree heat of Afghan summer days.

Many of their victims — whom the chief of defence staff recently called "murderers and scumbags" — never knew what hit them, one source told The Canadian Press.

Beyond acknowledging that JTF2 is in Afghanistan, defence officials and the federal government have maintained their usual strict silence about the unit's exploits.

They plan a briefing on Tuesday, where Defence Minister Bill Graham promised military authorities will provide a few more details about what JTF2 has been up to since it deployed to Kandahar earlier this summer.

But, without providing many specifics, defence sources who spoke on condition of anonymity confirmed that the highly trained commandos are bringing their full repetoire to bear in Afghanistan.

"They're doing counter-insurgency operations," said one official. "They're quite vigorous ones."

Canadian special forces have maintained an almost-constant presence in Afghanistan since Ottawa first sent troops to the former terrorist haven in early 2002.

They've done everything, from providing security to the prime minister and NATO commanders in Kabul, to launching search-and-destroy missions in hostile territory far to the south.

The unit, with several U.S. counterparts, earned a Presidential Citation for heroism in battle in Afghanistan in 2002, but Canadians have heard few details of its accomplishments, due partly to its size.

Between the SEALs, the Green Berets, army Rangers, Marine recon, Delta Force and air force special operations units, the Americans have tens of thousands of special forces soldiers.

The Defence Department has never released figures, but it is believed that — even with a post-9/11 expansion — the Ottawa-area unit has fewer than 1,000 members.

The unit says its small size makes its members more vulnerable to identification and possibly retaliation, and it claims secrecy is one of the elements that sets it apart from other units of its kind.

"Being open and transparent about certain aspects of the unit could seriously compromise the effectiveness of Canada's counter-terrorism capability," says a National Defence statement on JTF2.

"History has shown only too clearly that terrorist organizations will use information about a unit's personnel, weapons, tactics and procedures to great effect by modifying their methodologies to counter the very forces designed to defeat them."

With specialized qualifications such as Pathfinder and Ranger badges, many regular reconnaissance soldiers in Canada are considered on par with almost any U.S. special forces unit.

Canadian snipers — both regular force and JTF2 — are regarded as the world's best. One broke a 30-year-old record in 2002, killing an enemy soldier with his .50-calibre rifle from 2,443 metres — almost 2 1/2 kilometres.

Regular-force snipers earned U.S. Bronze Stars for their stellar work in Afghanistan three years ago.

Canada's elite and highly trained JTF2, which accepts fewer than one in 10 applicants, is considered among the best of its kind.

The nature of their bloody work — which can involve covert ``hits" on enemy commanders and operatives or pitched battles with war-hardened fighters — is another reason Ottawa doesn't like to talk about what its commandos do.

JTF2 kills people, and that runs contrary to many Canadians' idea that their military are strictly peacekeepers and conciliators who rebuild schools and hand out aid to refugees and other victims of war.

Based at the Kandahar airport, the special forces troops are working under U.S. command, independently from Canadian soldiers running a provincial reconstruction team nearby or peacemakers patroling under NATO in Kabul.

The defence chief, Gen. Rick Hillier, made headlines in July when he said Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar and their followers are ``detestable murderers and scumbags."

"We are not the Public Service of Canada," he declared. "We are not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces and our job is to be able to kill people."

Its been fun dweeb reading your rants and all... but 2moro got class one lahh... need sleep... see u 2 moro 4 for brain bashing...

Debmey

Thank you. Its fun too talkin to you.

mmc

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2005 06:13 PM
Wo siang ken ni ma wen hao. Ahahahahahahaha....................

Ni xiang women zheli bu keyi mingbai ni shuo shenme, ......bu guo ni hai bu keyi mingbai women zheli...nuren!

(awak fikir kami tak faham awak cakap apa,.....tetapi awak masih tak faham kami disini....betina)

taiaha

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2005 06:13 PM
Wo siang ken ni ma wen hao. Ahahahahahahaha....................

Kah,kah, betul mmc-baru di bai bejako jaku lain ka dikena ba Msia alu terus bai ia jaku Cina, tang sapa nda nemu jaku Cina ditu? Ny lah datai ke menua org nda nemu belajar jaku org. Mua nda malu, ngayan ke pemeli ba menua org.

mmc

wei bahaso ko aku dak faham da

Debmey

Wah! you people are vely gud at cursing. Cursing 1st class man. Ahahahahahaha................

mmc

ni mingbai Taiha shuo shenme ma...shuo da keyila....pull the string debs..

(ko faham apa taiha cakap ke...cakap besar bolehlah...)

yipun78

THE STAR

Thursday September 22, 2005

BY BERNARD SEE

PENANG: The 50% discount offer on traffic fines, which was supposed to end today, has been extended to Sept 30.

The offer by the police was made in conjunction with National Day celebrations.

Internal Security and Public Order director Comm Datuk Othman Talib said the extension was to give motorists more time to settle their summonses.

揑 have been told by my officers that there are long queues at the payment counters in all states,

yipun78

Wednesday September 21, 2005




BY BERNARD SEE

It was Lok Wan Loo's first roadblock duty and also his last.  

His police volunteer reserve (PVR) colleague Ong Choon Keong, 30, said Lok was not supposed to be on duty on Sunday but had volunteered his service.  

Lok, 35, was one of seven people killed in an accident on Jalan Tengku Kudin, Penang, when a car went out of control and crashed into a roadblock.  

揌e was in the front of the roadblock, checking a motorcyclist抯 licence when the car crashed into him and then the motorcyclist,

yipun78

New Straits Times

bulat

[quote]Originally posted by yipun78 at 22-9-2005 09:28 AM
New Straits Times

yipun78

Thanx Bulat

bulat

You're welcome,

bulat

Tentera di sempadan Thailand berjaga-jaga
Oleh Norfatimah Ahmad dan Rohaniza Idris

KUALA LUMPUR: Pasukan keselamatan di sempadan Malaysia-Thailand diletakkan dalam keadaan berjaga-jaga bagi mengelak kemungkinan anggota militan dari negara itu menceroboh dan menjadikan Malaysia sebagai pangkalan untuk menyerang balas.

Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak, berkata langkah yang berkuat kuasa serta-merta itu diambil berikutan pergolakan dan keganasan terbaru di Selatan Thailand, kelmarin.

“Kita juga akan memantau perkembangan di kawasan terbabit, termasuk memastikan jika ada pelarian atau rakyatnya hendak lari daripada keadaan di sana,” katanya selepas melancarkan Biasiswa Kecemerlangan Maxis di Pusat Konvensyen Kuala Lumpur City Centre (KLCC) di sini semalam.

Kelmarin, sekurang-kurangnya tiga penduduk mati ditembak penyerang tidak diketahui, manakala dua anggota Tentera Laut Diraja Thailand mati ditikam dalam keganasan di Ranae, Narathiwat, Selatan Thailand.

Keganasan di Kampung Tanjung Lima itu bermula jam 8 malam selepas sekumpulan lelaki dipercayai tentera berpakaian preman, melepaskan tembakan rambang ke arah kedai kopi di kampung itu.

Mengenai kedudukan 131 penduduk Islam Thailand yang lari ke Malaysia untuk mencari perlindungan bulan lalu, Najib yang juga Menteri Pertahanan berkata, keterangan enam daripadanya sudah diambil sejak seminggu lalu.

“Kita akan benarkan pihak berkuasa Thailand menyoal siasat semua pelarian terbabit. Bagaimanapun isu ini perlu dikendalikan dengan terperinci kerana mereka masih dalam keadaan trauma berikutan pergolakan yang berlaku,” katanya.

Kumpulan penduduk Islam Selatan Thailand itu masuk ke Malaysia kerana bimbang berikutan pembunuhan Imam Kampung Lahar, Ban Rahan dekat Sungai Padi, Narathiwat pada 30 Ogos lalu.

Najib berkata, kerajaan berpendapat pelarian terbabit perlu tampil secara sukarela untuk memberi keterangan dan bukannya dipaksa.

Mengenai wartawan Malaysia yang memasuki kawasan bergolak itu, beliau berkata, tidak ada sebarang jaminan berhubung keselamatan mereka yang membuat liputan di kawasan itu.

“Kalau mereka pergi ke kawasan berkenaan, itu atas risiko mereka sendiri,” katanya.

Kelmarin, sekumpulan wartawan Malaysia dibawa tentera Thailand ke selatan negara itu untuk bertindak sebagai perunding bagi membebaskan dua anggotanya yang dijadikan tebusan penduduk sebuah kampung.

Tindakan itu dibuat atas permintaan penduduk berkenaan yang menuntut agar kejadian itu diberi liputan oleh media Malaysia kerana dikatakan tidak mempercayai media tempatan dalam melaporkan keadaan sebenar di wilayah itu.

http://www.bharian.com.my/m/BHar ... 0923003910/Article/

Hmmm... bila laa nak abis mende2 mcm ni... nampak gaya makin tenat lagi ada. Sama2 lah kita doakan semoga saudara kita kat sana dilindungi Allah...

RainbowSix

KABUL (AFP) - Five crew members have been killed when a US military helicopter crashed in strife-torn southern Afghanistan, but there were no indications hostile fire brought the chopper down, the military says.

"A US military CH-47 Chinook helicopter crashed southwest of Deh Chopan today killing all five crew members onboard," the military said in a statement.

Although the cause of the crash was unknown, there were "no indications of hostile fire involved at this time", it added.

US military ground forces are at the crash site providing security and recovery operations are ongoing, the statement said.

Debmey

Why are you gloating?

Originally posted by Debmey at 25-9-2005 06:04 PM
Why are you gloating?

dont be a provocative trublemaker la kiasuuuu

Debmey

Its the worst dishonour for a military man to gloat over the military mishap of others.
Are you a military man? You ever been one?

lipanlapan

Originally posted by Debmey at 26-9-2005 06:38 AM
Its the worst dishonour for a military man to gloat over the military mishap of others.
Are you a military man? You ever been one?

This is the thing that come form someone that claimed/wrote in this forum had "10 medals" , "recon 1" & praised by Encik (Malay word, i thougt Latin  eh?) :

Originally posted by Debmey at 22-9-2005 12:27 PM
Lt Adnan episode was only one small battle involving a platoon of soldiers.
Its perhaps the only one that you have no choice but to blow up up like hell.
Thats the truth.

Originally posted by Debmey at 22-9-2005 10:46 PM
Regiment? More like a puny platoon my fren out of millions of malays.