Preservation and Authenticity of the Holy Quran

salam03

sebelum kau cabar org tulis semula Al-Qur'an....baiki kau tulis semula kitab suci hindu kau tu,sbb barney50 kata ada org 'alter' kau punya kitab suci dr yg sebenar...menyebabkan fakta polygamy dalam kitab kau dah tak betul....

Al-Qur'an takde lagi aku dengar tersilap/ada org ubah....so mana lebih utama..?
Semestinya kau yg kena tulis semula kitab engkau sephiroth!

kau tak leh cabar org lain sesuatu yg kau takde!

NIXAR

Originally posted by salam03 at 23-3-2007 02:41 PM
sebelum kau cabar org tulis semula Al-Qur'an....baiki kau tulis semula kitab suci hindu kau tu,sbb barney50 kata ada org 'alter' kau punya kitab suci dr yg sebenar...menyebabkan fakta polygamy da ...

hmmm...camne la diorang nak tulih balik, diorang tgh tunggu "messenger" diorang datang. Selagi tak sampai "messenger" camne nak tulih. Pakai je la dulu yg tak complete dan dah kene alter tuh....;)

sedondon

ala sepiroti......setakat tahu konsep Gita tu apa lah sangat, Gita Karen ke?

WLIO

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 23-3-2007 12:51 PM


Kalau tak boleh buat, cakap je tak boleh buat. ;)

nak buat apa lagi

Al Quran dah elok tu

my nephew can recite and memories the Holy Book of Quran from cover to cover

so no need to rewrite the Quran again lah

kharrrr  kharrrrrr  kharrrrrr

DARSITA

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 3/21/07 16:12
Jangan banyak cakap (kpd semua Muslims). Saya cabar kamu - TULIS BALIK AL QURAN KAMU TANPA SEBARANG REFERENCE.

Kalau kamu tak dpt buat begitu, macam mana kamu boleh kata yg nenek moyang Arab  ...

Kamu ingat AL Quran tu ada 5 pages sahaja ka? Kamu ingat kami ni semua mahir tulis dalam Arab ka?

Debmey

Originally posted by WLIO at 23-3-2007 04:55 PM



nak buat apa lagi

Al Quran dah elok tu

my nephew can recite and memories the Holy Book of Quran from cover to cover

so no need to rewrite the Quran again lah

kharrrr  kharrrrrr  ...

Did he memorise using the Quran as reference?

Lets say he slip in memory, does that mean the quran is corrupt and not preserved? Or does he need to go back to the quran to get corrected?

You see how muslims love circular reasoning to justify their quran? silly isn't it?

salam03

Just pay a visit to any darul qur'an..then your question is answered bvy itself!

if only you dare to find the truth how qur'an preserved.....

WLIO

Originally posted by salam03 at 24-3-2007 12:50 PM
Just pay a visit to any darul qur'an..then your question is answered bvy itself!

if only you dare to find the truth how qur'an preserved.....

dengan cadangan ko tu

cuma aku malas nak layan dia

nanti meleret lah soalan dia tu

kharrrrr   kharrrrr  kharrrrrrr

Debmey

Originally posted by salam03 at 24-3-2007 12:50 PM
Just pay a visit to any darul qur'an..then your question is answered bvy itself!

if only you dare to find the truth how qur'an preserved.....

in other words, there is no proof that the quran was preserved just because you have people memorising it cos they all refered to the printed quran for that purpose.

salam03

there is a proof...thats why i show u where u can get teh information..just pay a visit to any Darul Qur'an in Malaysia....u'll know the answer....

Anyway,ever heard the words "TASMI' ".....? that also will definitely answer your question....indeed!

..and may i ask u a question...which one comes first...Qur'an in the form of text or from muslim who memorize it..?

WLIO

Originally posted by salam03 at 26-3-2007 02:35 PM
there is a proof...thats why i show u where u can get teh information..just pay a visit to any Darul Qur'an in Malaysia....u'll know the answer....

Anyway,ever heard the words "TASMI' &qu ...

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Debmey

Originally posted by salam03 at 26-3-2007 02:35 PM
there is a proof...thats why i show u where u can get teh information..just pay a visit to any Darul Qur'an in Malaysia....u'll know the answer....

Anyway,ever heard the words "TASMI' &qu ...

How can there be proof when the reciters were never indepednent from the written or printed script at all?

WLIO

Originally posted by NIXAR at 23-3-2007 04:40 PM


hmmm...camne la diorang nak tulih balik, diorang tgh tunggu "messenger" diorang datang. Selagi tak sampai "messenger" camne nak tulih. Pakai je la dulu yg tak complete da ...

dia orang tu tengah tunggu despatch rider lah


kharrr  kharrrrr  kharrrrr

sedondon

The words  came from the god,  it wasnt a 'cincai' work to compile it easily,

Debmey

there is no evidence it was even properly compiled.
Besides, the earliest actual evidence of the quran came about only in the 9th or 10th century.

salam03

mmm..u already have a preconceived idea...no wonder la u cannot accept the truth....its ok for u to hold with whatever u believe...no need to ask anyone here how Al-Qur'an preserved anymore,since u already have the answer in your brain..is'nt it..?

Debmey

nope, its based on primary reserach. There is no historical evidence to show that the quran existed from the 7th century.

WLIO

Originally posted by salam03 at 26-3-2007 09:59 PM
mmm..u already have a preconceived idea...no wonder la u cannot accept the truth....its ok for u to hold with whatever u believe...no need to ask anyone here how Al-Qur'an preserved anymore,since ...

itu lah jawapan yang sungguh memuaskan

teruskan dengan jawapan yang sedemikian


kharrrr   kharrrr   kharrrrrr

Sephiroth

Originally posted by <i>DARSITA</i> at 23-3-2007 08:26 PM<br />

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Kamu ingat AL Quran tu ada 5 pages sahaja ka? Kamu ingat kami ni semua mahir tulis dalam Arab ka?

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Kamu mahir merepak. Tak kan tak mahir tahu apa yg kamu merepak itu.

sedondon

aku dari dulu asyik tertanya2 apakah yg dimaksudkan merepak? aku ingatkan typing error,:bgrin: