[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

snipersnake

so deb..that were the hadith of the prophet married her..so what proof u have there??nothing..NADA ZILCH..

snipersnake

Church sexual abuse scandal dominates sermons
Monday, March 1, 2004

By KEN MAGUIRE
Associated Press Writer

BOSTON -- Roman Catholics confronted the problem of clergy sex abuse from pulpits, at protests and in parishes on Sunday, two days after the release of reports outlining the scandal's scope and the church's failure to protect children.

While some victims took to the streets in protest, claiming the church hierarchy was trying to whitewash the problem, others said they felt relieved the church is coming to terms with the issue.

"I don't want it to go away," said Maurice Smith, 52, a Boston resident who attended Mass at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross. "The more we address it, the more we can feel it's not going to be swept under a rug or covered up."

Two church-sanctioned studies were released Friday by the National Review Board, a lay watchdog panel formed by church bishops. One, compiled by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, found there had been more than 10,000 abuse claims against nearly 4,400 priests from 1950 to 2002.

"We must pray ourselves out of this wilderness," said Monsignor Richard Sniezyk, who was installed administrator of the Springfield Diocese in February after Bishop Thomas Dupre resigned in the face of abuse allegations. "We need not panic. We need to pray."

Nancy Fitzpatrick, 44, a registered nurse who attended a service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York, called the report's numbers "shocking."

"But I do think the church is doing its best to address this," she said. "Releasing these figures means they're acknowledging how big a problem this is, and that's a good step."

Others feared the church might not have given a full account of the abuse claims.

"It's just staggering the numbers of people who were abused," said Joan Smola, 59, of Hadley, Mass., who attended a vigil for victims in Springfield. "Do we know whether all of the dioceses were honest in what they put in their reports? I'm sure there are many victims who have not come forward."

About 100 victims and their supporters marched Sunday in Boston from Holy Cross to the Statehouse to urge Gov. Mitt Romney to appoint a clergy abuse task force to oversee the church in Massachusetts, where the sex abuse scandal erupted with reports in the Boston archdiocese.

Organizers said the church should reveal information about priests who are no longer in ministry and live in the community, but acknowledged there may be legal roadblocks because most accused priests were not convicted.

"The solution can't be merely to respect the civil liberties of these men and let kids get raped," said Anne Barrett Doyle, co-founder of the Coalition of Catholics and Survivors. "We can do better than that."

Romney spokeswoman Shawn Feddeman said Sunday that the Republican governor would consider the group's request, but wouldn't elaborate.

Along with the John Jay College report, the second report examines the causes of the molestation crisis, putting much of the blame on American bishops for not cracking down on errant priests.

In that report, the National Review Board pointed out the evolution of the crisis in the Boston archdiocese, where the crisis exploded following the revelation that the late defrocked priest John Geoghan had been shuffled among parishes despite allegations of abuse.

"The picture that emerged was that of a diocese with a cadre of predator priests and a hierarchy that simply refused to confront them and stop them," the report said.

Robert Bennett, the lay person who oversaw the study, said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he thinks bishops who sheltered guilty priests should resign.

The lay reform group Voice of the Faithful, which was created in response to the abuse scandal, took out a full-page advertisement in The New York Times urging Pope John Paul II to seek resignations from bishops who "knowingly transferred sexually abusive clergy."

Cardinal Bernard Law, who was archbishop of Boston when the crisis erupted in his archdiocese, is the only church leader who has stepped down over transferring predator clergy from parish to parish.

During Mass at Our Lady of Angels Cathedral in Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony talked about the sex-abuse crisis without referring to the John Jay report.

"In my own life, the last couple of years have been very difficult because of the sexual conduct problems of some clergy," Mahony said. "Very often I (say) 'Anything but that, Lord. Change this cross to something easier to bear, change this cross for me."'

The report found that the Los Angeles Archdiocese had California's highest number of sexual abuse claims, 656, and highest number of accused clerics, 244. The National Review Board study found the Los Angeles diocese to be "troubled" and singled out Mahony for resisting subpoenas seeking priest personnel files.

During Mass at San Fernando Cathedral in San Antonio, Archbishop Patrick F. Flores, head of the Archdiocese of San Antonio for 25 years, asked for personal forgiveness for not doing more in the past to protect children.

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Deb needs to be educated on ancient culture!

Debmey

ancient Arabian culture accepts paganistic worship. Does that make it correct?
Doe ancient culture mean paedophilia, human rights abuse, slavery and human scarifice correct?

snipersnake

u still didnt answer me deb..where is the hadith that aisya's father rejected muhammad??

Doe ancient culture mean paedophilia, human rights abuse, slavery and human scarifice correct?
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Ancient culture is not not comparable to modern terms silly!  That is why it's ancient.  And culture evolves as the world goes round, not stagnant!

Go and take this statement to the scholars and historians, they will laugh you out the door!

Debmey

The real question is, was Mo bi?

The real question is, was Mo bi?
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No, the real question is, are you stoopid?

13Friday

yes - period - in the terms of old and new.

what thrill is there in the 9 year old if not a man after LUST,
and lust is SIN.

God's law does not change for the basic human being.


Mohd's followers do change the law and Mohd did make his law

Oreng

Stupid debmey think that marriage is paedophilism, that's why he never married !

Oreng

Originally posted by 13Friday at 2005-2-2 03:23 PM:
yes - period - in the terms of old and new.

what thrill is there in the 9 year old if not a man after LUST,
and lust is SIN.

God's law does not change for the basic human being.


Mohd's  ...

Poor 13Friday. He doesn't know that LUST is a tool. It can be good or bad, depending on how you use it. Not every lust is a sin. A controlled LUST according to rules and law is good but uncontrollable lust is bad.

Look at what Prophet Muhammad SAW had done..how long He consumnated the marriage after the contract of getting marriage ? 3 years... I dont see any element of uncontrollable lust here. I think 13Friday thinking of blue films at all times !!

Originally posted by 13Friday at 2-2-2005 03:23 PM:
yes - period - in the terms of old and new.

God's law does not change for the basic human being.

Wrong.  Marrying a young bride was not only a middle eastern culture, it was the norm in almost every country there was, china, india, egypt, even in the anglo saxon countries.

In India, only in the 19th century that the law prohibited intercourse with a wife who had not reached the age of 10.  (Because previously, girls were married off to adult men as young as two years old).  

Even in this 21st century, in Chile and Mexico, the legal age of consent for female is 12, in Italy is 14, in Korea and Spain is 13,  in Missouri and South Carolina in the US is 14.

Dont forget what the Talmud said 3 year old girls can have s*x and in OT condones it (see Numbers 31).

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-2 02:40 PM:
The real question is, was Mo bi?

No Debmey. The real question here is DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING MOST OF THE TIME?

Can you show Fuzzman proof that Prophet Mohammad is a CONVICTED or CONFIRMED paedophile through legitimate and direct-linked sources?
But what I can tell is that St. Paul had high regards for paedophile clergymen [ 1 Corinthians - Chapter 5:1-13 ] where at first he admonishes contact with such despicable and evil clergymen but then again in a surprise turnaround St. Paul requires you to receive them back into congregation without first "forgiving" them for indulging in paedophilia in 2 Corrinthians - Chapter2: 5-7?

So once again provide us New School with solid proofs that Prophet Mohammad is either a CONVICTED or CONFIRMED paedophile or else you can SHUT THE [F-WORD] UP.

ARI FUZZMAN

sonny~~

wow
instead of bro deb***sfe harpin on prophet mohammad bein paedophille, its FUZZ himself now
but theres a twist to the thread to put it blunt
or theres a turn of tide logically speakin
dict says paedophilia is condition of bein sexually attracted to children
in other words as FUZZ puts it - paedophilia is when one repeats wot ones doin.  hence wheres the HARDproofs of repetition?
lets c the threads on right track
no hecklin, no spammin, no incitin hatred, no cursin
jest HARDfacts, HARDevidences  

peace

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-2 10:32 AM:

Nope not me. It is you. Show me ir-reversable proof that pinpoints Prophet Mohammad as a "CONFIRMED" paedophile. First of all you need to confirm that that is proof showing ...

I'm sure you already know that paedophilia is a repetitive regressive condition. So by this count can you successfully tag the prophet to it?

Debmey

First of all, i see that all of you do not deny Aisha's account in the hadiths that Mohd had sex with her when she was only 9 years old.

Thats a very good start

[ Last edited by Debmey on 2-2-2005 at 10:01 PM ]

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2-2-2005 10:22 AM:
You still didn't answer my question. Providing Aishah's complete and precised narrative of the  pre-engagement excitement is not what I asked of you. I know that narrative like the back ...

What more do you need?

All Debmey has to ask Fuzz is: Will you (Fuzzy) have sex with a 9 year old?

Question 2: And if yes/no, why?

Thus, this is the best way to answer Fuzzy's question.

Baiduri Othman

Actually how many underage girls did the Prophet have sex with? Only then we can conclude that he's a paedophile! Any records on that?

Debmey

How many women must a man rape to be a rapist?

Fuzzman

Debmey wrote: First of all, i see that all of you do not deny Aisha's account in the hadiths that Mohd had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Thats a very good start

Yes I salute you. Tis' indeed a very very good start and I'm just lovin' it. For starters, you cannot support the paedophile accusation thrown at Prophet Mohammad. You can't openly start for the records that Prophet Mohammad was EITHER A CONVICTED OR CONFIRMED paedophile or engages in acts of paedophilia. That's really unprofessional for a person like you who claims to represent the Old School here.Then as we proceed, you make marriage sound so dirty. What next Debmey, in your quest for your "brand" of truth?

ARI FUZZMAN