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Lebih 30,000 hadir dengar ceramah Dr Zakir Naik di Terengganu
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salmon-suki replied at 17-4-2016 04:40 PM
Ooo...ok..i will rest my case here...sbb awk pn mcm xtaw ape y awk ckp kan,berbelit2 dan xde input ...
Macam tu la selalunya berlaku, bila hujah x. B bersumber, lazimnya akan berlaku misconstrued context, attacking figures berkaitan islam dan paling2 last resort mcm tu lah name calling etc . Lumrah tangan berbuat fasad |
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mujer_in_espejo replied at 16-4-2016 06:45 AM
Sama je dgn agama lain bro pada zmn tersebut.. yg femes dgn sistem penghambaan zmn2 dulu..tell me. ...
Maybe dorg amek y surface aje..dorg xblaja psl ayat al-qur'an y dihazafkan semua tu,hadith sahih,dll...cume y sy pelik,knp mesti nak attack islam based on sexual orientation only ek?
Sebelum ni psl isu kawen ngn budak2 bwh umur,now slavery issue y main point dorg highlight ialah sex with the slaves by which sy rase irrelevant sbb skrg mcm da xde hamba abdi (based on my observation kt malaysia tanah air y terchenta ajela,tmpt lain sy xtaw)....byk lagi isu y bley highlight selain drpd sex,like liberalism,secularism in islam...nak tgk jgk set2 secular n liberal defense their belief..hehe~ |
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mbhcsf replied at 17-4-2016 04:58 PM
Macam tu la selalunya berlaku, bila hujah x. B bersumber, lazimnya akan berlaku misconstrued conte ...
Xpela sis..die cuma tgh emosi aje tu..cume dlm kes die,lebih baik kita berdiam diri sbb die berada dalam denial state...apa y kita cakap die akn bantah,asalkn die puas ati walaupun xde kena mengena dgn previous statement die...unless we said sth that suits him/her,baru die stop...hehehe~ |
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mbhcsf replied at 17-4-2016 04:53 PM
Bagi bukti sahih beserta rujukan.
Aku tanya kat kau kalau senario tu berlaku pada kau. Adakah ko rela.
Nak bukti sahih tak abis2 drpd dulu sampai skang. Berlambak hadis sahih drpd dulu sampai skang lagi mau tanya. |
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salmon-suki replied at 17-4-2016 04:59 PM
Maybe dorg amek y surface aje..dorg xblaja psl ayat al-qur'an y dihazafkan semua tu,hadith sahih,d ...
Irrelevant ko cakap slavery tu?
We are questioning why a religion that kononnya to save mankind allow slavery and even have sex pancut dalam with them |
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The talk by Dr. Zakir Naik yesterday also attended by Chief High Priest of Malaysia, Ven. Datuk K Sri Dhammaratana from Buddhist Maha Vihara temple. Both DZN &Datuk K Sri have a light exchange. We extended our invitation to various Not Yet Muslim NGOs but only Buddhist Maha Vihara temple respond. Nevertheless is a good start. As Dr. Zakir Naik rightly said; "We work on similarities and common ground. The differences we talk tomorrow."
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abangbikerz replied at 17-4-2016 05:21 PM
Aku tanya kat kau kalau senario tu berlaku pada kau. Adakah ko rela.
Nak bukti sahih tak abis2 ...
Ler. Kalau tak ada sumber ia hanya dakwaan dan bukan bukti, tak pe selalunya begitulah , surface assumptions |
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salmon-suki replied at 17-4-2016 05:05 PM
Xpela sis..die cuma tgh emosi aje tu..cume dlm kes die,lebih baik kita berdiam diri sbb die berada ...
Hehe, lazimnya. |
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abangbikerz replied at 17-4-2016 05:23 PM
Irrelevant ko cakap slavery tu?
We are questioning why a religion that kononnya to save mankind ...
Yep..still to me,irrelevant..kecuali di sini masih mengamalkn slavery..awak nak ckp sy ignorant pun ikut awk laa...sbb sy lebih berminat nak taw isu y lain berbanding isu sex semata2...
lagipun sy tgk da ramai forumer y bg bukti mengenai slavery in islam ni,tp masih ramai lg yang menafikan semua bukti tu....bak kata seorg forumer,slavery cuma terjadi bila ada peperangan,dan hamba abdi tu ada hak mereka tersendiri,tp masih lg segelintir manusia nak memutarbelit,mengajukan soalan tp xmemahami ape y dah dihujahkn oleh forumer2 tersebut..
tp pd sy maybe abangbikers tanak taqlid,by which sy puji sikap abangbikers...cme agak sedey bile org asyik nak memburukkan islam tp hny menunjukkan lg kejahilan mereka..maafkn sy jika sy tersalah ckp.. |
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Dah lama x menjenguk tred ni. Dah panjang dah hujah masing2 ..  mcm2 peel |
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Meanwhile... saat korg membahaskan pasal slavery, meh jenguk tred nih.. sebenci2 korg kat islam.. dah 4 org masuk isle saat Dr. Zakir kat Mesia nih. Maka meraung la puak2 anti isle yg dok dr minggu lepas bahas pasal slavery x abis2. Klu nk pertahankan hujah sgt.. gi la attend Dr.Zakir punya ceramah. Tanya la mcm2 pasal slavery.. pasal sex dlm islam.. pasal menutoh bagai. Korg kan suka bab2 gini. Sia2 je korg berforum menentang dr.zakir.. ape pun x dpt
http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=985116&mobile=2 |
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mbhcsf replied at 17-4-2016 06:01 PM
Ler. Kalau tak ada sumber ia hanya dakwaan dan bukan bukti, tak pe selalunya begitulah , surface a ...
Hadis sahih pon ada sis. Nak tak nka terima je. Kalo dah jadi religious bigot macam lembu dicucuk hidung. Tunjuk apa pon xnak ngaku. Kahkahkah |
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salmon-suki replied at 17-4-2016 06:12 PM
Yep..still to me,irrelevant..kecuali di sini masih mengamalkn slavery..awak nak ckp sy ignorant pu ...
Yg nampak in denial ialah muslim yg cuba tegakkan benang basah.
Kalau ko perang sekalipon apa guna hangkut pompuan buat jadi hamba seks sekalipon. Ko tinggal je le.
And why do u have to wage a war to preach a religion? |
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abangbikerz replied at 17-4-2016 06:32 PM
Yg nampak in denial ialah muslim yg cuba tegakkan benang basah.
Kalau ko perang sekalipon apa ...
http://www.al-islam.org/slavery-from-islamic-and-christian-perspective-sayyid-akhtar-rizvi/islam-attacks-slavery
For ur reading...harap dpt membantu...saya cme jwb ikut ape y sy pernah baca n blaja..tp soklan abangbikers tu sy xdpt jwb sbb sy x arif psl tu...tp at least dgn soklan2 abangbikers dpt juga sy bukak minda n amek taw sikit sbnyk psl hal ni..so,thanks n harapnye dgn info drpd web tu dpt mjawab persoalan abangbikers td... |
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Hamba memang halal disetubuhi dan mempunyai iddah selayaknya seorang isteri cuma tempohnya sedikit berbeza.Ada banyak dalil tentang iddah bagi hamba yg ko boleh google.Motif ko mahu putar belit?
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salmon-suki replied at 17-4-2016 06:47 PM
http://www.al-islam.org/slavery-from-islamic-and-christian-perspective-sayyid-akhtar-rizvi/islam-a ...
Terima kasih le link tu. Aku tak nak baca pon sebab aku dh byk baca sblm ni dan mmg ianya hanya hujah apologetic dan damage control.
Dan ko tak perlu utk jadi pakar atau ahlul atau ada phd utk faham berdakwah tidak perlukan peperangan. |
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jonidep replied at 17-4-2016 07:07 PM
Hamba memang halal disetubuhi dan mempunyai iddah selayaknya seorang isteri cuma tempohnya sedikit ...
So apa isis buat tu betul le kan. Tawan pompuan jadi hamba. Pastu kongkek. Sharia compliant le kan? |
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abangbikerz replied at 17-4-2016 06:28 PM
Hadis sahih pon ada sis. Nak tak nka terima je. Kalo dah jadi religious bigot macam lembu dicucuk ...
Ler, dakwaan bukan bukti yg dibawa, pernyataan demi pernyataan shj dan name calling |
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