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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:48 PM | Show all posts
Sukhois
have so many hard points. They have no problem carrying R-27s and Kh-31s
at the same time

Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:23 PM

KH-missiles are faster but it doesnt mean it cannot be shot down as SAM missiles are usually even faster and more agile. However, your KHs will be launched from your Su-30s. You need to make a choice. Arm them with air to air missiles to face a veritable swarm of SG fighters or arm them with air to surface missiles and impact your air to air fighting capability. You only have 18 su-30s and they will be shot down first.

Their greater 憂o escape zone
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:50 PM | Show all posts
Yes it can


That site is not updated.  And there is no confirmation whatsoever. If there is such a version, the varient`s name will be out by now. And again, any proof My actually purchased it? To use a heavy air-surface missile in an air to air mode is clumsy.  The G550 AWACs is more maneuverable than the old hawkeyes.


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An active/passive air-to-air version for use against slow-moving support aircraft, a so-called "AWACS killer", was announced at the 1992 Moscow air show with 200 km (110 nmi) range.[1] That would be less than the 300-400km (160
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:55 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Sukhois
have so many hard points. They have no problem carrying R-27s and Kh-31s
at the same time


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Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:23 PM

KH-missiles are faster but it doesnt mean it cannot be shot down as SAM missiles are usually even faster and more agile. However, your KHs will be launched from your Su-30s. You need to make a choice. Arm them with air to air missiles to face a veritable swarm of SG fighters or arm them with air to surface missiles and impact your air to air fighting capability. You only have 18 su-30s and they will be shot down first.


Their greater 憂o escape zone
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:57 PM | Show all posts
Ok. Got to go rest. See you again when i come back Botak Chin for more fun time from moi. And remember we are all friends.
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 10:02 PM | Show all posts
Like i said. Sukhois cannot be jammed.
They don抰 even have to use active sensors for their Kh-31s.
And Kh-31 itself also cannot be jammed.
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:26 PM

Im not sure anti-radiation missiles cannot be jammed but they can be fooled. Also, Sg wont be jamming your missiles only silly. But your Su-30s; the planes carrying your KH-31s. So, any proof you have Kh-31? And you cannot destroy our radars when you cant see them because of jamming but most importantly because your Su-30s are too busy trying to fight off the entire RSAF.


Sukhois and other malaysian fighters will concentrate on destroying singaporean fighters first. In the meantime our artilleries will not open fire and remain undetected until singaporean air force are decimated after the turkey shoot. Only when they finish destroying Singaporean fighters will our sukhois hunt singaporean artillery locating radars
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Post time 2-2-2009 10:14 PM | Show all posts
weh..tak tukar tajuk thread ni lagi ke
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 10:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:55 PM

And you must be kidding if you believe that a fighter can out-maneuvre missiles effectively. This isn`t a cartoon show.  

Nope. I never said fighters can outmaneuvre missiles.

On the other hand it was you who said AWACS can out out maneuver the Kh-31
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 10:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:39 PM

It is not about finding a clear space to shoot. It`s the time to move, take off camo, finding that space and prepare to shoot, dis-engage and scoot and re-arm again. It takes a lot of time. It just takes seconds for fighter to shoot and it takes a whole less time for counter artillery Himars and normal artillery to shoot back.


I said it once and I抣l say it again. Malaysian artillery can only be detected when opening fire. Before that, Singaporean aircraft won抰 be able to find them due to Metrokoats special camouflage and coatings.
Even when we use our artillery , we wont use all of them at the same time. The first portion of our artillery will knock out Singaporean main and makeshift runways. One or two hours later another portion will attack the same runways to destroy any repair gangs together with their equipment and also making sure Singaporean runways stay out of order.
By sticking to this strategy, whatever Singaporean fighters that managed to survive the carnage of the 憈urkey shoot
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Post time 3-2-2009 12:39 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mmc at 2-2-2009 22:14
weh..tak tukar tajuk thread ni lagi ke


lobai,kao kalu tak kacau dua ni tgh gado2 tak bleh ka? kao dah ganggu konsentrasi pejuang kita tu.....
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Post time 3-2-2009 12:40 AM | Show all posts

Reply #488 BotakChinPeng's post

thanks..u are a great strategist....we hope it can be used in the war...
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Post time 3-2-2009 01:39 AM | Show all posts
bagus lobai2 perang sekalian, perbincangan perang yg sangat bernas dan menarik, strategi dan counter strategy yg boleh memberi faedah bagi jenderal2 perang musuh agar tidak cuba menyerang mesia, yg sememangnya tampak koman spanar, tapi di sebalik tabir mmg diakui sbg antara terbaik di dunia buat masa nih... (boleh caya ka?)
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Post time 3-2-2009 01:49 AM | Show all posts
tapi bab singapor kontrol ekonomi mesia sampai nak makan ikan berkualiti pon susah mmg sungguh tak bertanggungjawab....nelayan2 mesia nih patut boikot jer agen2 singapor nih...bagi rakyat sendiri makan lagi baguih...jangan la pikiq duit double jer.... sekarang tengok siapa yg susah?


[quote]Kumpulan dari Singapura kawal hasil laut negara?
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Post time 3-2-2009 06:55 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BotakChinPeng at 2-2-2009 10:35 PM

I said it once and I抣l say it again. Malaysian artillery can only be detected when opening fire. Before that, Singaporean aircraft won抰 be able to find them due to Metrokoats special camoufla ...



Don't you know our aircrafts are based in Thailand, Philippines and Australia too? Can your artillery shoot the airfields there?
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Post time 3-2-2009 08:00 AM | Show all posts
Like i said. Sukhois cannot be jammed.
They don抰 even have to use active sensors for their Kh-31s.
And Kh-31 itself also cannot be jammed.

QUOTE:
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:26 PM

Im not sure anti-radiation missiles cannot be jammed but they can be fooled. Also, Sg wont be jamming your missiles only silly. But your Su-30s; the planes carrying your KH-31s. So, any proof you have Kh-31? And you cannot destroy our radars when you cant see them because of jamming but most importantly because your Su-30s are too busy trying to fight off the entire RSAF.




Sukhois and other malaysian fighters will concentrate on destroying singaporean fighters first. In the meantime our artilleries will not open fire and remain undetected until singaporean air force are decimated after the turkey shoot. Only when they finish destroying Singaporean fighters will our sukhois hunt singaporean artillery locating radars


You must be the first person in the world who says thag Sukhois cannot be jammed. All fighters can be jammed. And purlease...you do not have enough fighters to deal with Singaporean airforce in a head-on clash. There will be a turkey-shoot and it will be on you. Hornets that cannot fire amraams and yet to be upgraded; high maintainence Migs which are about to be retired plus new Sukhois in limited numbers. You havent answered my question. Haave you bought weapons for your Sukhois yet? Finished paying for it?
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Post time 3-2-2009 08:03 AM | Show all posts
Nope. I never said fighters can outmaneuvre missiles.

On the other hand it was you who said AWACS can out out maneuver the Kh-31


The air to air version doesnt exist.  Your fighters will have use thier anti-aircraft missiles. And again, where is the proof that Malaysia actually bought any version of KH-31s? Or you are in la0-la dreamland.
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Post time 3-2-2009 08:14 AM | Show all posts
[quote]I said it once and I抣l say it again. Malaysian artillery can only be detected when opening fire. Before that, Singaporean aircraft won抰 be able to find them due to Metrokoats special camouflage and coatings.
Even when we use our artillery , we wont use all of them at the same time. The first portion of our artillery will knock out Singaporean main and makeshift runways. One or two hours later another portion will attack the same runways to destroy any repair gangs together with their equipment and also making sure Singaporean runways stay out of order.
By sticking to this strategy, whatever Singaporean fighters that managed to survive the carnage of the 憈urkey shoot
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Post time 3-2-2009 08:45 AM | Show all posts
dasat jenderal2 ni berperang time org bercuti:bg: :bg:
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Post time 3-2-2009 09:16 AM | Show all posts
Tak habis lagi ke war game nih...
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Post time 3-2-2009 10:03 AM | Show all posts

Reply #498 tangopapa's post

Biasalah Jenderal baru dapat 5 paku..biorle..semangat masih meluap2 nak berperang mulut esok dah letih berentilah war games tu..padahal takde apa2 hasilpun. Sg takkan cari pasal nak perang dengan Mesia..Mesiapun takde hingin nak menjajah pulau tu..tanah yg ada nipun tak habis potong balak lagi..
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Post time 3-2-2009 10:05 AM | Show all posts

Reply #489 razhar's post

the art of war is not to be distracted from ultimate victory
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