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Animals performs homosexuality. why God allowed this??

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Post time 18-11-2006 06:51 PM | Show all posts
this time make it simple okay...

lebih banyak belitan cakap ko tuh...
maka akan lebih banyak lar kebodohan ko terserlah..

straight forward aje...


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 Author| Post time 19-11-2006 03:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 18-11-2006 06:48 PM


is this one the "blame game" tactic they teach u ? :lol
example:

1- all human (up until today) are sins because Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit..
2- people are killing each ...


so u saying ur allah create all those animals non vegetarian include first humans. u also believed that ur allah create bad nature in begining?
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Post time 19-11-2006 05:35 PM | Show all posts
Correction : vegetarian AND meat eaters....
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 Author| Post time 19-11-2006 08:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 19-11-2006 05:35 PM
Correction : vegetarian AND meat eaters....


so, u alllah creat meat and vegetarian in begining for adam, eve and animals?
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Post time 19-11-2006 08:23 PM | Show all posts
that is right

vegetarian and meat eaters make up what you call the ecology or (food chain)
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 Author| Post time 19-11-2006 08:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 19-11-2006 08:23 PM
that is right

vegetarian and meat eaters make up what you call the ecology or (food chain)



show me koran verses or hadith verses to support ur claimed.
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Post time 19-11-2006 10:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-11-2006 08:24 PM



show me koran verses or hadith verses to support ur claimed.


let me make this clear before i/we provide facts from Quran and Hadith..
then, what's next ?? :cak:

because i still remember...
u have this weird of ideology about eating...
as u keep on pasting before
"God's plan .........................bla bla bla..."
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 Author| Post time 19-11-2006 11:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 19-11-2006 10:41 PM


let me make this clear before i/we provide facts from Quran and Hadith..
then, what's next ?? :cak:

because i still remember...
u have this weird of ideology about eating...
as u keep on  ...




Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 19-11-2006 08:23 PM
that is right

vegetarian and meat eaters make up what you call the ecology or (food chain)



show me koran verses or hadith verses to support ur claimed.


[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 19-11-2006 11:01 PM ]
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Post time 19-11-2006 11:07 PM | Show all posts
its simple logic ... the Quran did specified that it was He who made everything in the world , but its not a book of science to elaborate on detail about ecology and food chain, but its a book of signs...
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Post time 19-11-2006 11:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-11-2006 03:27 PM


so u saying ur allah create all those animals non vegetarian include first humans. u also believed that ur allah create bad nature in begining?




erkkk ....anyway tell me...
1- are u questioning God what He should or shouldn't do ?
2- what is your "measuring tape" when u said good or bad nature ??

the animal kingdom is a more sexually complex place than most people know..
for your information, homosexual animal NOT ONLY between dolphins...
and NOT ONLY happens between male-male...
it also can be happen to female-female..
Giraffes do it, goats do it, birds and bonobos (chimplike ape)...bla bla bla
and guess what...
there are 450 different species also do it too :

surprise ??
tell u what...
it's more surprise to see HUMAN also behave like animal....
didn't God give them brain and mind ?

remember when i said this

binatang --> ada otak tapi tak berakal
manusia  --> ada otak dan diberi akal


bila manusia tak menggunakan akal yg diberikan oleh Tuhan dengan cara yg sihat..
atau berperangai macam binatang (contohnya kes homoseksual nih)..
memang lar orang lain gelar dia "binatang" atau "babi" atau "setan"...
sebab dah tak ada gelaran yg lebih hina dari tuh..

kalau ada yg lagi hina...gelaran binatang tu dah tak relevan lagek..
ada paham ?
erkkk umur ko berapa tahun ?


through animal...
God has show many signs,messages and warnings to human...
what one should or shouldn't do...
in simple words... "u do this, u would be the same level with animal/satan"

it's only stupid and ignorance who cannot understand it...
the funny thing is...sometimes they come with a weird ideology...
for what ??? :dia: to suits their ASSUMPIONSSSSSS :

i hope this clear enough for u to understand :nerd:
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Post time 19-11-2006 11:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-11-2006 11:00 PM




show me koran verses or hadith verses to support ur claimed.



يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ كُلُواْ مِمَّا فِي الأَرْضِ حَلاَلاً طَيِّباً وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ خُطُوَاتِ الشَّيْطَانِ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ {168}

Hai sekalian manusia, makanlah yang halal lagi baik dari apa yang terdapat di bumi, dan janganlah kamu mengikuti langkah-langkah setan; karena sesungguhnya setan itu adalah musuh yang nyata bagimu " (al-Baqarah:168)

ii- Firman Allah SWT:

وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ الْخَبَآئِثَ

Dia menghalalkan bagi mereka segala yang baik dan mengharamkan bagi mereka segala yang buruk (al-A'raf:157)

Al-Quran telah menegaskan bahawa makanan yang dihalalkan oleh Tuhan ialah yang baik-baik sahaja...
sebab makanan yg tak baik ,Tuhan nyatakan pada dalil yg lain pulak..

erkk...so what's next ? :nerd:
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Post time 19-11-2006 11:39 PM | Show all posts
i'm Logging Out for a while...

gik keluar minum dengan kengkawan lama (minuman yg baik2 jek)
erkk...ko takde kawan ke Truth.8 ?


i'll be back...
tak sabar nak tengok apa jawapan budak Teruyet lol
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2006 03:28 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 19-11-2006 11:24 PM




erkkk ....anyway tell me...
1- are u questioning God what He should or shouldn't do ?
2- what is your "measuring tape" when u said good or bad nature ??

the animal kingdom is ...


The Bible says " In begining everything was created Good and vegetarian.

did not u see how ur koran contradict it? did not u see ur allah says in begining ur allah create bad and good nature ?
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2006 03:31 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 19-11-2006 11:36 PM

168}

Hai sekalian manusia, makanlah yang halal lagi baik dari apa yang terdapat di bumi, dan janganlah kamu mengikuti langkah-langkah setan; karena sesungguhnya setan itu adalah musuh yang nyata bagimu " (al-Baqarah:168)

ii- Firman Allah SWT:

????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ???????

Dia menghalalkan bagi mereka segala yang baik dan mengharamkan bagi mereka segala yang buruk (al-A'raf:157)

Al-Quran telah menegaskan bahawa makanan yang dihalalkan oleh Tuhan ialah yang baik-baik sahaja...
sebab makanan yg tak baik ,Tuhan nyatakan pada dalil yg lain pulak..

erkk...so what's next ?  
...


am i talking abt clean and unclean meats? No. If you were to compare my Bible on clean and unclean meats, ur koran made very silly mistake by asking unclean shellfish to be eaten. worst even ostric, camel, rabbit and few others consider clean in ur koran but the Bible says unclean.

so, i am not discussion abt clean/unclean meats.
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2006 03:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 19-11-2006 11:07 PM
its simple logic ... the Quran did specified that it was He who made everything in the world , but its not a book of science to elaborate on detail about ecology and food chain, but its a book of s ...


the book of  sign? not even single prophecy did ur koran mentioned but the Bible hve many prophecy events in Bible

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 20-11-2006 03:41 AM ]
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Post time 20-11-2006 11:22 AM | Show all posts
oh well you can believe in your 'Bible' if you want... No harm done ..
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Post time 20-11-2006 03:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-11-2006 10:16 PM
I have watch the recent programme called 'wild sex' among  animals in astro.
to my surprise , some animals performs same sex. for example dolphin.

why God allowed such? Is God just says OK with ...

You know what, your question is like "Why God allow the predator like lions and tigers to kill an innocent prey". Does killing are allowed in human society. The answer is no and so does the homosexual. Animals are not going to be put any reponsible in their shoulder for anything they've done in this world for they are not equipped with enough mind to think rasionally with no cognitive or metacognitive ability to enable them to distinguish between good and bad. Animal can do anything they want such as killing, homosexual, bisexual, raping, adultery (they dont have to marry to perform sex), slavery (this happen in the insect world as i watched National Geographic), etc. Animal can even commit incest which dad can have sex with daughter, son can have sex with mother, brother can have sex with sister and so on. In fact they are not going to be resurrected in The Day of Judgment which in this case is different with human being. What God want to show here is that there are much different between human being and animal and a human should know that if they commit such 'disgusting' act then they can be considered as animal or worst. Human are bound by this laws/restriction as they were given mind/"akal" to think rasionally and soon  they'll be questioned for every deed they've done in The Day of Judgment. Ada paham ka truth8?
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Post time 20-11-2006 05:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-11-2006 03:28 AM


The Bible says " In begining everything was created Good and vegetarian.

did not u see how ur koran contradict it? did not u see ur allah says in begining ur allah create bad and good n ...


dUhhh...
what a fool... :lol

ko mintak aku tunjukkan apa dalil dalam Quran tentang makanan...
biler aku dah tunjukkan....ko kata "contradict" pulak...
obviously lar tolol....that's what makes u a Christian and i'm a Muslim
bangang ! keh keh keh :lol

aku pun boleh kata yg Bible bertentangan dengan Quran...
bezanya antara aku dengan ko ialah...
bila aku menyangkal apa2 yg dituliskan dalam Bible...
aku akan beri bahasan serta bukti dari segi logik...

sebab tu sebelum aku provide ayat2 Quran tu aku tanya

Originally posted by karengkang at 19-11-2006 10:41 PM


let me make this clear before i/we provide facts from Quran and Hadith..
then, what's next ?? :cak:

because i still remember...
u have this weird of ideology about eating...
as u keep on  ...



remember ? :cak:
and please ...don't get lost again and again from our discussion


[ Last edited by  karengkang at 20-11-2006 05:09 PM ]
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Post time 20-11-2006 05:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-11-2006 03:31 AM


am i talking abt clean and unclean meats? No. If you were to compare my Bible on clean and unclean meats, ur koran made very silly mistake by asking unclean shellfish to be eaten. worst even ostric, camel, rabbit and few others consider clean in ur koran but the Bible says unclean.


there...
u show your ignorance and stupidity again.... :lol
u want to know what is written in Quran about what human can eat --> there, i already paste it :nerd:

BTW,i only show u the basic guideline of it...
sebabnya penerangan Tuhan bukan sampai setakat tu jek...
Tuhan dah tau yg manusia ni mmg BANYAK SOAL (macam ko lar :lol)
jadi dalam Quran Tuhan beri guideline yg lengkap tentang apa yg tak boleh dimakan

bila manusia dah tau apa yg Tuhan kata sebagai tak boleh dimakan...
jadi secara automatik, selain yg dinyatakan tu boleh lar dimakan..
so far, are u following me ?
ada paham ? heh

so, dengan pernyataan ko sebelum nih ...
aku rasa tak perlu lar aku tunjukkan dalil apa makanan yg diharamkan dalam Quran..
kan ??

Hai sekalian manusia, makanlah yang halal lagi baik dari apa yang terdapat di bumi" (al-Baqarah:168)

ayat ni adalah amaran untuk manusia supaya makan dalam keadaan yg berpada walaupun benda tu HALAL...
berpada means bukan dalam kadar yg melampau....

that's why lepas tu Tuhan kata:
"dan janganlah kamu mengikuti langkah-langkah setan; karena sesungguhnya setan itu adalah musuh yang nyata bagimu"

in fact bukan untuk makan jek..
apa pun yg kita lakukan sehari2 hendaklah dalam keadaan berpada...
kalau tak perbuatan kita tuh (tak kira lar kerja ke,makan ke,setubuh ke) akan memberi effect yg buruk pada diri kita balik..


erkk...are u still following ? :bgrin:


[ Last edited by  karengkang at 20-11-2006 05:45 PM ]
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Post time 20-11-2006 05:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by zonan at 20-11-2006 03:16 PM

You know what, your question is like "Why God allow the predator like lions and tigers to kill an innocent prey". Does killing are allowed in human society. The answer is no and so does ...



tu lar brO...
berapa kali aku dah cakap..
siap kasi contoh lagek..
tapi makhluk Tuhan seekor nih tak paham2 :lol

kalau mengikut Bible Tuhan nih digambarkan sebagai lemah , bodoh dan membuat silap..
sebab apa ?

1- kononnya mula2 Tuhan jadikan manusia dan semua binatang supaya makan tumbuh2an..
2- bila manusia/haiwan tak mengikuti apa yg Tuhan suruh tiba-tiba : turun ayat nih

Genesis 9:3-5 (New International Version)
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man.


Tuhan pulak yg kena ikut kehendak makhluk yg Dia cipta ??
Tuhan jenis apa lagu nih ??
har har har :lol


[ Last edited by  karengkang at 20-11-2006 05:46 PM ]
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