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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

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Post time 2-3-2005 04:00 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-2 03:10 AM:
Marriage  have a legal binding,

Phaedophile have no legal binding and offcourse it's illegal, raping a minor without any legal binding is a phaedophile absolutely!!!


Wasn't it a marriage??a ...


Married or not married, boinkng a 9year old IS an act of pedophilia.

A person who is viewed as an moral example for others should know better and should not have boinked a 9 yer old. period.


Boink boink boink
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Post time 2-3-2005 08:41 AM | Show all posts
JESUS SAY NO TO THAT?
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Post time 2-3-2005 10:02 AM | Show all posts
Allah did not speak out against paedophilia and pornography or ganja too. Does that mean you can have sex with toddlers?
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Post time 2-3-2005 10:53 AM | Show all posts
Does that mean you can have sex with toddlers?
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According to Judaism, you can.


Why are you being so daft Debmey? Didnt I ask you to give proof that marriage like that was opposed to in the 7th century.  You can't cos it wasn't illegal.


From http://www.oneworldmagazine.org/focus/etiopia/falash2.html

About Ethopian Jews migrating to Israel

In Ethiopia, girls were often engaged and even married by the time they reached puberty. If the girl was particularly young (some were as young as nine when they married), sexual relations were deferred until she was ready to bear children. Whatever her age, a girl was expected to be a virgin when she married. If it was discovered that she was not, the marriage would be annulled and she would be returned to her family. After she was married, the bride went to live in her husband's village with his family. She also became the responsibility of her husband, who was expected to support and protect her.

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/GUS/YEMEN.HTM

揥ell aware of its effectiveness for retaining control over females, Yemenite Jewish men [from the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century] submitted to the rabbinical ruling which permits a man to have sexual intercourse with a female once she is three years and one day old (b. Niddah 44b). Although it seems to have been rare in Yemen to acquire a female under the age of eight there were a fair number of cases where girls were procured and raised in the boy's father's house until the groom at least was sexually mature. Between one-third to one half of acquisitions in this study took place between a sexually mature male and a just pubertal female. I know of only one out of over two hundred where the female had not yet entered menarche. Nearly all the females were transferred to new owners by their parents before the age of fourteen whether or not they were sexually mature. About half the males who acquired them were between fifteen and eighteen. [匽 At the turn of the century in southwestern Yemen a widowed mother, barely able to feed herself and her infant daughter, gave her pre-pubertal ten-year-old away to a man nearly three times her age.


From http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/re ... ractical.shtml#wife

No-one is absolutely certain of her age when she married the Prophet, but it could have been as young as 6; some scholars believe she was ten years older. However, the majority go for the age of 6. The marriage that took place then was an agreement on paper, there was no physical relationship until Aishah reached puberty - but this in itself could have been at around 9 or 10 years old. That is not an unusual age for menstruation to start in hot climates, and once a girl is capable of producing a child she is regarded as technically a woman. Sex for children under 16 is forbidden by law in the UK at the moment, but this has not always been the case and it is nonsense to suppose that there is no sexual activity amongst children under 16 in this country. No-one is able to stop them and if the girls get pregnant they frequently have abortions.

In Muslim countries it is considered far better to get youngsters married as soon as they show inclinations to have sex - then they can have it honourably, as much as they like, and the children born are not *****s. Many Muslim countries in fact do try to keep to the age of about 16 for marriage (as is the legal age in the UK), and prefer not to marry off their girls too young.


http://www.stormloader.com/munaypata/India.htm

In India during the 1860抯, marriage meant girls getting married below 8 or 9 years old. Socio-reform religious movements such as the Brahmo Samaj and the Arya Samaj pioneered work against child marriage. Late in the 1860抯 some success was met when the Indian Penal Code prohibited intercourse with a wife who had not reached ten years of age.
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Post time 2-3-2005 10:58 AM | Show all posts
Sorry sir, not in my religion.
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:00 AM | Show all posts
so in ur religion... what is the right age to get married?
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:01 AM | Show all posts
Is that all you can say?  

Then why do you bother at all?
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:26 AM | Show all posts
Actually, there is no age specified because God knows it is not the same for everybody.
The general guideline in Christian marriage is appropriateness and compatibility.
You may be 30 years old and still not be ready for marriage simply because you may have a flawed character or are highly incompatibvle with your partner's faith level or  background.
On the other hand, a 9 year old girl that is still playing with dolls is definitely inappropriate for marriage.

See how smart the Bible is? It is broad enough and has the wisdom to take into account the uniqueness of each individual. At the same time, it is absolutely correct. The Bible is perfect.

In the Islamic world today, many girls were married at 9 or right after their first menstration. This is one flawed and lousy guideline. Thats why muslims societies are so messed up today because they do not know the law & wisdon of God.
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:42 AM | Show all posts
In the Islamic world today, many girls were married at 9 or right after their first menstration. This is one flawed and lousy guideline. Thats why muslims societies are so messed up today because they do not know the law & wisdon of God.
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Are you an idiot?  Cos you definitely give me that impression.

There is no guideline on marriagable age for women in the Bible.  You can never find any figure of age there except the word "young woman".  BUT the bible specifies being a virgin or not.  

It is only by the COMMON LAW or to daft people like you CIVIL LAW that the age of consent is written, not by god, but by MAN.

It is you that does not understand the wisdom of the Almighty even if it smacks it right in the middle of your face.  I can tell you two wisdoms behind marrying at puberty

1)  Notice how there were hardly any social illness 100 years ago when people were married at young age
2)  People's lives were shorter then than now, you know the phrase life is too short, well it didnt appear in 1999.  

If you don't understand the above, then you are really daft.
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:54 AM | Show all posts
Oh btw, according to the laws of canon and Christian Acts, anyone who has attained PUBERTY (described as age 7-14) can contract marriage.

Why are you lying Debmey?
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Post time 2-3-2005 11:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 2-3-2005 05:54 AM:
Oh btw, according to the laws of canon and Christian Acts, anyone who has attained PUBERTY (described as age 7-14) can contract marriage.

Why are you lying Debmey?



Debmey did not lie samerosie..

He just doesnt know. Why?
Simple, he did not read his Bible!
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:05 PM | Show all posts
Tsk, I dont know which is worst, ignorance or lying about it.
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 2-3-2005 06:05 AM:
Tsk, I dont know which is worst, ignorance or lying about it.


Oh come on.. dont you know that Debmey fit to both of the mentioned situations? Not only he is an ignorance person, but also a good liar too!
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:19 PM | Show all posts
Good liar?  No way...he cant lie to save his life!  Hehehe
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 2005-3-2 11:54 AM:
Oh btw, according to the laws of canon and Christian Acts, anyone who has attained PUBERTY (described as age 7-14) can contract marriage.

Why are you lying Debmey?


Where? please show me.

I've shown you that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was only 9 years old.
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 2-3-2005 06:19 AM:
Good liar?  No way...he cant lie to save his life!  Hehehe


ok... ok... he's a good twister.... he had twisted so many things... he claims that he knows islam very well, but from his posting, i see nothing.. it;s like someone who did not even know what is islam....

what a pity debbie!

hihihi.... what can we say samerosie..
he was meant to be... to be.. a liar, a crap.....
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:35 PM | Show all posts
So how do you explain Mo's morality in having sex witha  9 year old Aisha?
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2-3-2005 06:35 AM:
So how do you explain Mo's morality in having sex witha  9 year old Aisha?


so, what is your base case to use the hadith from aisha, and to attack aisha?
if you want to use aisha's hadith, i think you have to accept every hadith as made source from aisha.

aisha did not claim that mo did bad to her!

and why dont you try now to answer samerosie's question about your ignorance of your own holy book? dont be good at other books, while you  cannot finish your own book!
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:47 PM | Show all posts
So do you reject sahih bukhari or what?
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Post time 2-3-2005 12:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2-3-2005 06:47 AM:
So do you reject sahih bukhari or what?


see, debmey twist again!

did i mentioned so debbie?
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