Peluang pelaburan di Public Mutual

Jelita

PM funds yg china based mmg jatuh sikit....as usual....buy low..sell high. kan??

time to invest more......good for the med to long term investment.

kabukiman

buleh bagi nav movement for the last 15 trading days for this fund?

Jelita

bulih...jab ekkkk.

anasue

Originally posted by Jelita at 4-1-2008 03:16 PM
bulih...jab ekkkk.

sis.....u penah mai penang tak december.?
mcm nmpk u je cpe course

mat403

betul ke P. Ittikal dah dibuka semula ?
kalau yea, boleh guna duit epf ke?

Swift

Originally posted by Jelita at 4-1-2008 03:16 PM
bulih...jab ekkkk.

huishh...lama nye ko punya sekejab tu...dah seminggu dah ni..
aku pon nak info yg sama gak..
biasanya ko punya sekejab tu, berapa lama ekk...

kabukiman

sabo je la

digitizer

Originally posted by Swift at 11-1-2008 09:59 AM


huishh...lama nye ko punya sekejab tu...dah seminggu dah ni..
aku pon nak info yg sama gak..
biasanya ko punya sekejab tu, berapa lama ekk...

tu lar
wa pon tunggu gak ni.......

Mas916

Originally posted by mat403 at 11-1-2008 09:54 AM
betul ke P. Ittikal dah dibuka semula ?
kalau yea, boleh guna duit epf ke?

yup..dh dibuka semula..tp utk cash only...
epf hanya PIDF dgn PIBF.

Swift

Originally posted by Mas916 at 11-1-2008 10:36 AM

yup..dh dibuka semula..tp utk cash only...
epf hanya PIDF dgn PIBF.

depa dah increased the fund size ke?
and kenapa epf tak leh pulak dah skang ni? ada overseas investment ker..

Swift

ok, aku dah tau dah..baru tadik sembang ngan my utc.
kata dia, bukannya da increased fund size, tapi ada investors yg take profit, i.e. jual depa punya units.
musti banyak giler unit yg dijual, sampai terbukak balik fund ni kat org lain..padahal lama dah org dok tunggu fund ni available..

hmm...buat kan aku terpikir plak..pasai apa dorang jual units banyak-banyak ni...
saja je nak amek profit, ...atau pon hmmm...speculation..speculation..

kitt_fisto

Originally posted by Swift at 11-1-2008 03:08 PM
ok, aku dah tau dah..baru tadik sembang ngan my utc.
kata dia, bukannya da increased fund size, tapi ada investors yg take profit, i.e. jual depa punya units.
musti banyak giler unit yg dijual, ...

Well, mcm 4 kwn aku ejen dia pi switch ke Islamic Bond masa market drop bulan Feb tahun lepas..Mereka2 ni sume frust sbb ejen mereka2 ni buat tanpa pengetahuan mereka...Skrg keempat-empat mereka dah tukar ejen lain...

whomyd

Originally posted by kitt_fisto at 11-1-2008 08:56 PM


Well, mcm 4 kwn aku ejen dia pi switch ke Islamic Bond masa market drop bulan Feb tahun lepas..Mereka2 ni sume frust sbb ejen mereka2 ni buat tanpa pengetahuan mereka...Skrg keempat-empat mer ...

agent2 mcm ni la yg memburukkan nama agents lain yg ok... adeh... susah2...

whomyd

Originally posted by Swift at 11-1-2008 03:08 PM
ok, aku dah tau dah..baru tadik sembang ngan my utc.
kata dia, bukannya da increased fund size, tapi ada investors yg take profit, i.e. jual depa punya units.
musti banyak giler unit yg dijual, ...

ittikal is good... kalau ramai yg kluarkan duit diorang pun, masih terlalu kecil bilangannya jika dibandingkan dgn investment yg masih ada dan yg baru di invest.... unit trust ni bukan saham atau forex yg terlalu sensitif dgn speculation yg boleh menjadikan ia merudum mcm stocks n forex etc.... hehehhehe....

market review by experts said that klci is expected to reach 1,600 - 1,700 points end of this year... this is speculation too.. tapi speculation ni bagus rasanya.... hehehehe....

Swift

aku ingat nak beli p ittikal la since da open to public again.
tapi, utc aku suggest aku beli PCIF (dari dulu dia dok usha aku beli pcif ni..)
kata dia, kalu nak compare on short term punya pulangan, mmg p ittikal ni lagi cepat pulangan dia.
but for long term, PCIF is better coz dia nye nav skang is still very low..

kang aku beli dua-dua kang....

whomyd

Originally posted by Swift at 12-1-2008 09:24 AM
aku ingat nak beli p ittikal la since da open to public again.
tapi, utc aku suggest aku beli PCIF (dari dulu dia dok usha aku beli pcif ni..)
kata dia, kalu nak compare on short term punya pul ...

kalau aku pun, aku suggest beli pcif buat masa skarang ni... unit price is very low skarang... 24sen je... market china skarang ni pun tgh drop skit... might rebound again soon... ittikal pulak, mainly affected by malaysia market... skarang klci pun dah naik tinggi... ittikal pun tgh menaik skarang... so pilih la memane... 2 2 pun ok

tapi kalau aku... aku pilih yg mana yg murah, dan ada potensi besar utk naik dlm masa terdekat... china, taiwan and hong kong market mmg potensi sgt2 besar....



[ Last edited by  whomyd at 12-1-2008 09:40 AM ]

Swift

ok. Thanks for the insight.  Aku nak kena pikir lagi ni.
ni tgh gatai tangan nak invest lagi..

putragold

Originally posted by kitt_fisto at 11-1-2008 08:56 PM


Well, mcm 4 kwn aku ejen dia pi switch ke Islamic Bond masa market drop bulan Feb tahun lepas..Mereka2 ni sume frust sbb ejen mereka2 ni buat tanpa pengetahuan mereka...Skrg keempat-empat mer ...

kalau silap tulun betulkan, bila switch ke bond, macam kita jual yg sedia ada then beli yang baru. kita rugi banyak pasal double charge tapi itu agen untung atas komisen. takde cara ke, sebarang penswitchan memerlukan kita punya authorization. nampak macam ada flaw kat sini.

kitt_fisto

Originally posted by putragold at 12-1-2008 11:36 AM


kalau silap tulun betulkan, bila switch ke bond, macam kita jual yg sedia ada then beli yang baru. kita rugi banyak pasal double charge tapi itu agen untung atas komisen. takde cara ke, sebar ...

Bila switch ke Bond bukan jual, tp switch je dan xde komisen utk ejen tp bila switch dikenakan charge RM25 utk setiap switching...cuma yg rugi adalah Bond return 5% to 7% setahun, mcm keadaan skrg market yg terus naik dan Whomydi ckp speculation utk KLCI naik antara 1,600 ke 1,700 point by end of this year, yg dah switch ke Bond tu mmg rugi la sbb equity boleh buat profit...

putragold

Bila check balik info yg pernah saya baca, memang saya silap. Kalu dari equity ke bond, switch charge RM25 jer. Tapi bila nak balik ke equity dari bond kena Rm25 & 6.5%. Agen tu dapat komisen bila sales saja. Utk dapat sales, redeem yg equity then beli bond. Ini info dia;

This is something true about an experience that slyeo related to me from his friend and I hope people will take notice about and not be fooled. Servicing agent advised to switch from one fund to another fund (equity to bond). But in actual fact, it抯 redeeming and then reinvesting the money into another fund (cheque involved). This will cause the investor to profit less cause he抣l have to pay service charges again when he reinvest the money. Moreover, if it抯 a so-called equity switch to bond, he抣l charge 0.25% which is more that the actual switching of RM25. Then, if want to switch back to equity, now have to pay another 6.5% and RM25. This is so burden to the investor and profit for the unethical agent (he抣l receive the commission).

Jika perkara ini boleh berlaku, para pelabur nampaknya kena ambil tahu pelaburan masing-masing dan memilih agen yg beretika. Thanks kitt_fisto for your reply.