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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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My response:-
As far as I'm concerned, never heard or read anything that the prophet molested underage children except married once to a 9 yr old Aisya'. |
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Originally posted by KENNKID at 2005-2-28 11:36 PM:
You already lost.
The holy prophet was not a paedophile because paedophilia is a sickness and carries a negative stigma to it. My beloved prophet married a yo ...
Marriage in no way justifies paedophilia.
Paedophilia is having sex with a child regardless of marriage or no marriage.
Mo fits its definitiuon to the tee.
I don't see any reason why you should be ashamed of Mo's paedophilia soince Allah alledgely endorses it.
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-28 10:30 PM:
So why are you muslims asahmed that Mo was a paedophile when allah endorse his paedophilia?
How are we supposed to be ashamed of the Prophet being a paedophile when there is no proven record to show that the prophet was such?
Show us te proof that says Allah endorses Prophet Mohammad's paedophilia?
Tell us who the Ansari women are?
ARI FUZZMAN |
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Why are you in denial of what the hadiths recorded abt Mop having sex with a 9 year old girl? |
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we do not deny that he lived together with nine year old aisyah after marrying her...
we do not see anything wrong about it... becoz our standards will always be relevant...
christians are different...
their book says must cover hair when go to church... they say its optional...
their god said its ok to marry more than one wife... they say cannot...
does bible says anything about the age of marriage? |
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He didn't just live with her, he had sex with her.
Muslims may think paedophilia is OK but please don't force us non Muslims accept your morals. |
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-1 09:07 AM:
He didn't just live with her, he had sex with her.
Muslims may think paedophilia is OK but please don't force us non Muslims accept your morals.
You better watch what you say Debmey. Just because you have lost this debate and have not proven at all that our beloved prophet is a sick man like your clergies, it does not mean that you have to be rude. Keep your frustration to yourself and shut up.
[ Last edited by KENNKID on 1-3-2005 at 11:16 AM ] |
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samerosie This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by Debmey at 1-3-2005 09:07 AM:
He didn't just live with her, he had sex with her.
He was also married to her, don't forget. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-1 09:07 AM:
He didn't just live with her, he had sex with her.
of cos laaa... takkan married je tak had sex... itu understood la... ayoo... why u people always think about sex... marriage is more than just sex... the polite way to say it is 'living together as a husband and wife'...
one question... what age is actually allowed to get married in bible? |
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Peace.
Prophet Muhammad never married a little girl of have sex with a 9 year old. They are no more than LIES to give the Prophet a Bad image.
My post from page 2
[quote]All Muslims agree that the Quran is the book of guidance. So, we need to seek the guidance from the Quran to clear the smoke and confusion created by the eminent men of the classical period of Islam in the matter of Ayesha抯 age at her marriage. Does the Quran allow or disallow marriage of an immature child of seven years of age?
There are no verses that explicitly allow such marriage. There is a verse, however, that guides Muslims in their duty to raise an orphaned child. The Quran抯 guidance on the topic of raising orphans is also valid in the case of our own children. The verse states:
揂nd make not over your property (property of the orphan), which Allah had made a (means of) support for you, to the weak of understanding, and maintain them out of it, clothe them and give them good education. And test them until they reach the age of marriage. Then if you find them maturity of intellect, make over them their property...擺/b](Quran , 4:5-6).
In the matter of children who have lost a parent, a Muslim is ordered to
(a) feed them,
(b) clothe them,
(c) educate them, and
(d) test them for maturity 搖ntil the age of marriage |
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please note:
lolipop is different...
he does not pray 5 times a day... |
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lolipop9 wrote: The marriage of Ayesha at the age of seven years would violate the maturity clause or requirement of the Quran . Therefore, the story of the marriage of the seven-year-old immature Ayesha is a myth.
Well, thats interesting. Sort of giving our debate here a different side of perspective. So according to you, marriage of muhammad to a child, aisha did not occur, so the hadith record it wrongly somehow? Meaning the hadith is not reliable?
kyas wrote: lolipop is different...
he does not pray 5 times a day...
In what way he/she is different?
Does praying 5 times daily makes you better than him/her?
[ Last edited by DivinePonytail on 1-3-2005 at 04:11 PM ] |
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Marriage or not, its still paedophilia.
What else? |
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-1 04:02 PM:
Marriage or not, its still paedophilia.
What else?
No, it wasn't. It was a marriage to a girl who had attained puberty. Paedophilia is not a marriage. |
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Paedophilia having sex with children, Aisha was a child. It does not mnatter wteher she was married to Mo or not.
The arsb by talking the first mentration as a sign of sexual and reproductive maturity have been proven wrong by science and by aisha herself. Poor Aisha was still playing with toys nad had no idea what was ahppeneing just prior to Mo takling her to bed. She ended up barren and developed psychological problems from her teens.
Mo was a paedophile whether you like it or not. You as a muslim shld not be ashamed of his ways because it was alledgely endorsed by allah cos it is your religious duty to accept it as good.
peace |
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DP wrote:Well, thats interesting. Sort of giving our debate here a different side of perspective. So according to you, marriage of muhammad to a child, aisha did not occur, so the hadith record it wrongly somehow? Meaning the hadith is not reliable?
I threw Hadith a long time ago...hadith if nothing but pure conjecture and hearsay..nothing more than that..when i say hadith, i mean ALL hadith collected my muslim scholars, not just bad ones.
eg.
Bukhari, Book of Nikah 3:52
The Prophet said that the best man amongst his followers is the one who has the greatest number of wives .
what kind of logic is this??
The prophet have the strength of 30 men for sexual actions+the prophet go on all his nine wife day and night (ref Bukhari:Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268)
On the other hand Bukhari recorded that the prophet always spend his night praying to God.
This is pure rubbish.
The Qur'an is only for me.
And what did the Quran tell about Prophet Muhammad?
68:4 And you(Muhammad) are of a high moral character.
Thats all i need to know.
Have to study for my final exam. sorry.
Peace.
[ Last edited by lolipop9 on 1-3-2005 at 05:35 PM ] |
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-1 05:25 PM:
Paedophilia having sex with children, Aisha was a child. It does not mnatter wteher she was married to Mo or not.
The arsb by talking the first mentration as a sign of sexual and reproductive matu ...
Paedophilia is not defined as a marriage. There is no matrimonial bond in paedophilia. |
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samerosie This user has been deleted
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The fact remains that Debmey as always is unable to proof that this marriage was not acceptable in ancient culture.
If Debmey was in ancient China, his parents would have "sold" him to the emperor's palace to become a eunuch! If Debmey was a girl then, his parents would have "sold" him as early as 5 years old to a taukeh's home to be married to the taukeh's son. |
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by samerosie at 2005-3-1 05:49 PM:
The fact remains that Debmey as always is unable to proof that this marriage was not acceptable in ancient culture.
If Debmey was in ancient China, his parents would have "sold" him to ...
But of course, Debmey will deny paedophillia because it doesn't serve his purpose. His only hatred is for the final messenger of God. I'm sure satan has the same stand. |
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