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Originally posted by stargate at 29-6-2006 11:23 PM
VVti...power lebih dan jimat minyak.
vvti..cuma jimat minyak jer..xde power...jgn salah faham...ko rase power sbb enjin tu pakai 2 camshaft jer...vvti direka utk jimatkan minyak sbb tu variable gear dipasang sebelah exhaust camshaft...kalau vtec mmg utk power sbb variable gear dipasang sebelah intake camshaft.Ramai org ingat vvti ni kasi lagi power... |
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Originally posted by rambutan at 30-6-2006 12:02 PM
apa saja dr jepon vvti, dvvt, vtect, vcool, vitagen... blablabla.. semua power oo... keta conti mana ada tulis2 kat blakang camtuh, tak power ler tuh gamaknyer.. hihihi
Keta cnti x tulis pun org dah tahu kehebatannya..keta jepun ni mcm2 nak kena tulis mainly for marketing purpose...semua gimik jer...xde class la naik keta yg pelekat mcm2 sticker... |
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Originally posted by peYno at 30-6-2006 12:45 AM
kawan bagitau ke???
minyak tu bape liter/100km tu
tapi kat belakang myvi tu tulis dvvt..bukan vvti...apa beza..tolong ajar skit
original passo/sirion aku tgk kat spore depa tak letak pon sticker ...
OK..ni nak kongsi skit pengalaman aku masa keja salah satu kilang keta and masa training kat japan...
DVVT ni stand for Dynamic Variable Valve Timing....perodua dan daihatsu jer yg guna...basically to improve fuel consumption and less emission gas sbb kat jepun dia concern pasal fuel supply and pollution. So..nothing to do with power...
VVTi lak...mechanism 100% sama dgn DVVT...tp Toyota yg pakai(parent company for Daihatsu). VVTi..stand for Variable Valve Timing intelligent...bezanya dgn DVVT pada dia punya brain or org panngil ECU...program x sama.
Keta di jepun mmg xde pelekat DVVT atau VVTi...sbb ini cuma marketing purpose kat malaysia.VTEC Honda mmg x sama dgn DVVT atau VVTi sbb VTEC utk power. Untuk saing dgn Toyota, honda kuar kan i-VTEC, jimat kan petrol tp ada skit power sbb Honda maintain variable gear pada intake camshaft. Kalau compare VTEC dgn i-VTEC, VTEC lagi power. |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 1-7-2006 04:59 PM
OK..ni nak kongsi skit pengalaman aku masa keja salah satu kilang keta and masa training kat japan...
DVVT ni stand for Dynamic Variable Valve Timing....perodua dan daihatsu jer yg guna...basi ...
So kalau compare ngan injin campro, ade byk beza tak dari segi power, efficiency, fc?.... |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 1-7-2006 04:46 PM
vvti..cuma jimat minyak jer..xde power...jgn salah faham...ko rase power sbb enjin tu pakai 2 camshaft jer...vvti direka utk jimatkan minyak sbb tu variable gear dipasang sebelah exhaust camsha ...
depa ingat dvvt tu cam vtec la tu...heheh kena tifu je |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 1-7-2006 04:59 PM
Keta di jepun mmg xde pelekat DVVT atau VVTi...sbb ini cuma marketing purpose kat malaysia.
sebab mereka tau dvvt tu tak hebat mana..nak tampal pon malu .tapi kat mesia sume kagum tu yg dok tampal tu...marketing purpose nak menifu rakyat la tu..hehehe |
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Originally posted by apam at 1-7-2006 08:43 PM
So kalau compare ngan injin campro, ade byk beza tak dari segi power, efficiency, fc?....
se tau aku ler...CAMPRO ni stand for camshaft profiling..tp engine campro yg proton pakai skg ni mmg xde apa2 special mechanism..cuma pelekat jer CAMPRO...so sama la mcm engine biasa yg wira dan waja pakai...nak kata power tu power gak ler sbb DOHC..tp kalau nak kata jimat minyak kalau compare dgn VIOS yg pakai VVTi tu...Campro lagi kuat makan minyak ...tak silap aku cylinder head utk campro ni..perodua yg buat sbb proton takde iron casting facilities...Sampai skg pun Proton sendiri tak pernah cerita apa kelebihan engine campro yg digunakan gen2..asyik citer chassis yg di 'tune lotus jer...kalau tak mesti proton dah pukul gendang pasal campro ni... |
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err............ neo ni cun gak bagi aku.... nampak mantap.... tapi sayang cuma 2 pintu je..... :geram: |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 2-7-2006 01:29 PM
se tau aku ler...CAMPRO ni stand for camshaft profiling..tp engine campro yg proton pakai skg ni mmg xde apa2 special mechanism..cuma pelekat jer CAMPRO...so sama la mcm engine biasa yg wira da ...
iron casting facilities kat perodua tu ..perodua buat utk apa bang????
anyway...bang kalau variable valve timing tu ko kaitkan dgn Jimat FC...mmg ko silap la...toyota sendiri tak claim vvti mereka utk jimat minyak sebaliknya lebih pada enviroment..
tu yg rakyat mesia terpedaya dgn dvvt tu
[ Last edited by peYno at 2-7-2006 07:46 PM ] |
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Originally posted by peYno at 2-7-2006 07:41 PM
iron casting facilities kat perodua tu ..perodua buat utk apa bang????
anyway...bang kalau variable valve timing tu ko kaitkan dgn Jimat FC...mmg ko silap la...toyota sendiri tak claim vvti mere ...
Ada logik gak tu, macam honda city, model untuk jimat FC, pakai enjin IDSI. Untk power, pakai Vtec. Injin IDSI ni ada pakai variable valve ke? |
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Originally posted by peYno at 2-7-2006 07:41 PM
iron casting facilities kat perodua tu ..perodua buat utk apa bang????
anyway...bang kalau variable valve timing tu ko kaitkan dgn Jimat FC...mmg ko silap la...toyota sendiri tak claim vvti mere ...
Bila masa aku ckp pasal variable valve timing...variable valve timing ni VTEC yg guna...aku ckp variable gear...DVVT & VVTi guna variable gear attached pada exhaust camshaft...so opening valve exhaust boleh buka lama utk exhaust gas keluar ..sbb tu dia boleh jimat FC...bila dah jimat FC ...emission gas pun rendah..environment frenly... kalau FC x bagus ...lean burn x sampai camne nak environment frenly yg mcm ko claim tu...anyway terserah la pada pendapat masing..aku pun dah x keja kat sana cuma nak share pengalaman dan pengetahuan yg aku belajar masa training kat TMC jer..bukan nak promote... |
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interior dia nampak murah la.. patut buat cam honda ker.. |
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Originally posted by ameer at 3-7-2006 01:06 AM
interior dia nampak murah la.. patut buat cam honda ker..
Perodua punya lagi nampak murah terutama MYV, macam barang mainan terutama dashboad dia... nak dibandingkan kalaulah ianya radio.. umpama HiFi(neo) vs Mini kompo(myvi) yg dijual kat pasar malam.
Sekarang memang style gitu agaknya, lebih plastik...honda pun sama apa. |
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Originally posted by daunlot at 3-7-2006 08:23 AM
Perodua punya lagi nampak murah terutama MYV, macam barang mainan terutama dashboad dia... nak dibandingkan kalaulah ianya radio.. umpama HiFi(neo) vs Mini kompo(myvi) yg dijual kat pasar malam ...
tu dia pasang cukup syarat jer..mmg nak kaut untung seboleh yg mungkin...sbb tu aku beli keta seken-hen conti jer...tp puas hati biar pun dah tua... |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 3-7-2006 09:42 AM
tu dia pasang cukup syarat jer..mmg nak kaut untung seboleh yg mungkin...sbb tu aku beli keta seken-hen conti jer...tp puas hati biar pun dah tua...
kao pakai conti cap ape? |
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Originally posted by apam at 3-7-2006 10:45 AM
kao pakai conti cap ape?
cap kipas kapalterbang... |
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Originally posted by fushigii at 3-7-2006 12:30 PM
cap kipas kapalterbang...
Wow, BMW tu. Patutla tak nak pakai keta jepung dah. |
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pakai lh mana yg anda mampu.
aku mampu jgk NEO ni tp tk mampu nk let go satria yg sedia ada. huhuhu... |
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Originally posted by apam at 3-7-2006 10:45 AM
kao pakai conti cap ape?
cap "ibu & anak" kot.. |
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ohh...
kalau variable kat intake macam VTEC and VANOS ( e36 single vanos intake )...itu untuk power aja ka ?
Dapat info baru hari ini...thanks dude |
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