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Perihal Lalat dalam Minuman dan Makanan

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 Author| Post time 16-12-2016 08:35 AM | Show all posts
Allah itu kan Al  HAKIM ....kan ?

so iman abu bakar tu tinggi maknanya kan : kami dengar dan kami taat
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Post time 16-12-2016 12:03 PM | Show all posts
Edited by ussopp at 16-12-2016 12:05 PM

kita tak perlukan alasan untuk printah.......itu semua untuk puaskan hati sendiri....

hakikat taat yg sejati tidak perlu memuaskan hati....sebab dunia ni ujian, bukannya dunia ni utk puaskan hati sendiri....
kalau hati puas Alhamdulillah, kalau tak puas , bersabarlah...kepada Allah jua kita kembali...


ketika nabi ibrahim diuji , dia tidak bertanya scientific reason di sebalik ujian itu...


Maka tatkala anak itu sampai [pada umur sanggup] berusaha bersama-sama Ibrahim, Ibrahim berkata: "Hai anakku sesungguhnya aku melihat dalam mimpi bahwa aku menyembelihmu. Maka fikirkanlah apa pendapatmu!" Ia menjawab: "Hai bapakku, kerjakanlah apa yang diperintahkan kepadamu; insya Allah kamu akan mendapatiku termasuk orang-orang yang sabar". (37: 102)



nilai taat paling tinggi bukan bertanya utk kepuasan diri,

tapi katalah "sami'na waato'na." kami dengar dan kami taat...


memang lalat menggelikan, tapi bersabarlah.....
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Post time 16-12-2016 07:46 PM | Show all posts
adakah kajian saintifik membuktikan penawar pada SAYAP LALAT?   
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Post time 16-12-2016 10:23 PM | Show all posts
hmmmmmmmm..............


Firman Allah Taala:

وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِكُمْ رَحِيمًا

Maksudnya: Dan janganlah kamu berbunuh-bunuhan sesama sendiri. Sesungguhnya Allah sentiasa Mengasihani kamu.

Surah al-Nisa’, (4:29)

pray for yemen?
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Post time 16-12-2016 10:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sabar_sabariah replied at 15-12-2016 09:32 AM
Alhamdulillah
dah dapat jawapan kat sini
dulu pernah baca pasal ni

Ikut suka kita.

Dlm satu hadith ada sahabat ni tengok air minuman dia dah dimasuki byk semut. Dia tanya nabi, nk buat mcm mana. Nabi kata buangla semut2 tu.

Dia kata lagi dia tak lalu dah nk telan air bersemut tu. Jadi, nabi kata buang je lah semua air tu klu x lalu minum.

Ni saya cerita ikut bahasa saya la,  tp begitulah kisah dari hadith tersebut.
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Post time 16-12-2016 10:27 PM | Show all posts
[size=0.8465em]Acta Odontol Scand. 1998 Oct;56(5):250-6.
Antimicrobial function of human saliva--how important is it for oral health?[size=0.923em]Tenovuo J[size=0.8461em]1.
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Abstract
[size=1.04em]Human saliva contains a number of physical physicochemical, and chemical agents that protect oral tissues against noxious compounds, in particular those produced by various microorganisms. Among such protective factors, the flushing effect of saliva flow is the most important one, not only because it so effectively removes exogenous and endogenous microorganisms and their products into the gut but also because a steady supply of saliva guarantees continuous presence of both non-immune and immune factors in the mouth. A great number of studies with controversial results have been published regarding various individual agents and their possible association to oral health, particularly to dental caries. It appears that no single chemical agent is far more important than the others. For example, patients with selective IgA deficiency have normal levels of non-immune defense factors and often display a compensatory increase in the other immunoglobulin isotypes. The concerted action of all agents in whole saliva, both saliva- and serum-derived, provides a multifunctional protective network that is collapsed only if salivary flow rate is substantially reduced. In this mixture of defense factors, many show additive or even synergistic interactions against oral pathogens. Increased knowledge of the molecular functions of various agents has made it possible to prepare oral hygiene product that include host-derived antimicrobial agents instead of synthetic agents. Although the clinical efficacy of such products is still unsatisfactory and poorly described, new technologies, for example in the production of specific antibodies against oral pathogens, may considerably improve the antimicrobial power of these products.


PMID: 9860091
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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 Author| Post time 18-12-2016 03:29 AM | Show all posts
baulu replied at 16-12-2016 10:23 PM
Ikut suka kita.

Dlm satu hadith ada sahabat ni tengok air minuman dia dah dimasuki byk semut. D ...

eh kalau ada masa boleh dak u bagi sumber ye...menarik pulak...

tapi logiklah kan...

sebab i know u ada sarjana in biology so best jugak cakap dalam hal ini

kalau kita tengok lalat kan - kita tahu dia hos pada pathogen atau bakteria yg berbahaya , dan of course nama pun bacteria kan surely haiwan yg pembawa tu menghasilkan anti microbial  yg melindungi dia dari -athogen yg menumpang badannya atau terlekat pada badannya kan in  a way...



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 Author| Post time 18-12-2016 04:13 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 18-12-2016 04:25 AM
Atheist_1 replied at 16-12-2016 10:27 PM
Acta Odontol Scand. 1998 Oct;56(5):250-6.
Antimicrobial function of human saliva--how important is  ...

u are jumping from one question on sayap lalat to another

a) sayap lalat

- i dah jawab dengan 3 joournal write ups  on - anti microbial properties discovered in the alimentary tract of a fly  - oxford journal tu
- i dah bagi laporan journal dari egypt yg KAJI DIRECT effect SAYAP lalat
- i dah bagi an australian entomologist ( ahli kaji serangga ) excerpt on  the anti microbial properties found  on the surface of flies' bodies.

so 3 sumber

then you bawa  hujah  lawak as if undermining org kat sini - on antimicrobial properties of human - yelah skin pun first line barrier ? salive yes humoral Ig mediated antibody  yes nothing new

b) but persoalannya hadis  nabi on lalat dibuat sebelum sciencse discover those ? do u get me?

so nak kata rasulullah saw  tu tak bijak ? nope - sebab fatonah bijaksana sifat wajib , bodoh islah sifat mustahil bagi rasul ni basics

now what ?

nak bawa humoral mediated immune system of saliva? why dont you bring anti coagulant properpties found in mosquitoes? hmm bagus jugak nak cakap pasal penawar ?



okay sure
nanti i tanya pasal MHC complex


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Post time 18-12-2016 05:17 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 18-12-2016 04:13 AM
u are jumping from one question on sayap lalat to another

a) sayap lalat

lampu dicipta pd zaman firaun........ pasti bukan ciptaan nabi kamu  

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 Author| Post time 18-12-2016 07:27 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 18-12-2016 07:30 AM
Atheist_1 replied at 18-12-2016 05:17 AM
lampu dicipta pd zaman firaun........ pasti bukan ciptaan nabi kamu

agama yg diutuskan Allah kepada rasulullah saw

telah mencegah alcohol yg memudaratkan - alocoholic liver disease, addiction , foetal alcohol syndrome
telah mencegah health related risky behaviour - promiscuity - yg membawa penularan STDs, veneral disease
telah mencegah sistem  riba
telah mencegah judi , zina dan arak

so u know too bad

firaun pun mati kan lemas pulak tu tak daya selamatkan diri tapi tak pa dia cipta lampu ? okay hehehe
okay , sian dia...tak sempay taubat ..even iblis pun kagum dengan dia sebab dia ( firaun ) ngaku dia tuhan ..sebab iblis tu bekas ketua malaikat tu ...iblis tahu siapa ALLAh ...tapi firaun wow...so u tak kesian ke?logically speaking ?

tak nak tengok ke ibnu haytham avicenna
annafis dalam nilai islam ?tarbiyyah dalam tamadun islam ?


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Post time 18-12-2016 06:55 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 18-12-2016 07:27 AM
agama yg diutuskan Allah kepada rasulullah saw

telah mencegah alcohol yg memudaratkan - alocoh ...

dah ada kondom kan..........  

telah mencegah health related risky behaviour - promiscuity - yg membawa penularan STDs, veneral disease


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 Author| Post time 19-12-2016 05:06 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 19-12-2016 06:21 AM
Atheist_1 replied at 18-12-2016 06:55 PM
dah ada kondom kan..........

kan?
u mention particle ...'kan' - eh macam tak sure je jawapan?

okay

dalam Islam , ada prinsip maqasid syariah yg memelihara  akal, jiwa, keturunan ( genetik / nasab) , harta dan agama.

so ia menjamin kebaikan untuk semua penganut agama ini - dan mencegah  kemudaratan. kemudaratan dalam aspek aspek di atas tu.

so fahamkan

dengan menggunakan kondom - yes ia mencegah kehamilan
tapi perbuatan zina itu - adakah ia menjamin kesejahateraan akal  pada si isteri yg halal apabila kes curang berlaku. kan banyak kes kes isteri makan hati bila membaca text message hubby pun dengan wanita lain, inikan pula zina?
zina - kondom - ada juga failure rates

adakah ia perbauatn yg mulia - zina? u zina u tak jamin hak wanita yg disetubuhi / dizinai itu dengan jaminan fizikal dan jaminan hak yg dia sepatutnya dapat - adakah ini dikatakan menaikkan martabat wanita ? secara konkrit ? no...cuma pertalian fizikal yg tak jamin apa apa bentuk sense of security pada wanita itu...kalau apa apa pun u tengok sendirlah kan ..siapa yg akhirmnya akan buang anak? akan face all the musics?

wanita itu jugak . so ini menjamin sense of weel being seorang wanita itu dalam segenap segi? tidak jugak. malah lebih teruk.

ia mencegah hamil tapi bukan zina

kalau kondom untuk merancang keluarga dalam konteks halal dalam islam - mufti kl dah ada penyataan sahih untuk itu .

so, again jawapan awak tu tak menunjukkan pada say aanda berfikir?

sedangkan islam - memupuk pemikiran dengan ijtihad para ulama tradisi dalam karya karya , sintesis mereka tentang penilaian hadis tu ( KBAT lah tu )
dah lama terpupuk.


menjawab persoalan you ...
Condoms and STDs:Fact Sheet for Public Health PersonnelConsistent and correct use of male latex condoms can reduce (though not eliminate) the risk of STDtransmission. To achieve the maximum protective effect, condoms must be used both consistently and correctly.Inconsistent use can lead to STD acquisition because transmission can occur with a single act of intercourse withan infected partner. Similarly, if condoms are not used correctly, the protective effect may be diminished evenwhen they are used consistently. The most reliable ways to avoid transmission of sexually transmitted diseases(STDs), including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), are to abstain from sexual activity or to be in a longtermmutually monogamous relationship with an uninfected partner. However, many infected persons may beunaware of their infections because STDs are often asymptomatic or unrecognized.

https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/docs/condoms_and_stds.pdf

so ...sistem nilai mana lebih menyeluruh , LEBIH LOGIK ?


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Post time 19-12-2016 08:24 AM | Show all posts
baulu replied at 16-12-2016 10:23 PM
Ikut suka kita.

Dlm satu hadith ada sahabat ni tengok air minuman dia dah dimasuki byk semut. D ...

senang cite, kalao lalu minum air bersemut (even dah dibuang semutnya) boleh lah minum
kalao tak lalu, takyah minum
sekian

tq ek
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Post time 19-12-2016 12:59 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 19-12-2016 05:06 AM
kan?
u mention particle ...'kan' - eh macam tak sure je jawapan?

zina patut halal dah..... dah ada kondom........ tak ada masalah bayi dibuang merata........ STD ada ubat maa  

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Post time 19-12-2016 01:11 PM | Show all posts
BTW apasal lock thread pasal anjing? adakah kerana penganut2 yg jahil buat islam dihina atau aku dah hina islam kerana tunjukkan kejahilan org2 islam?

http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum. ... &extra=page%3D1

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 Author| Post time 20-12-2016 05:22 AM | Show all posts
Atheist_1 replied at 19-12-2016 01:11 PM
BTW apasal lock thread pasal anjing? adakah kerana penganut2 yg jahil buat islam dihina atau aku dah ...

asyik betul prihatin sangatlah pasal agama yg bukan dia nak anuti pun.
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Post time 31-12-2016 06:23 AM | Show all posts
Edited by .Atheist.. at 30-12-2016 10:29 PM

http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/4 ... ataract_surgery.pdf

2. Cataract surgery in ancient cultures: “Couching” technique
The oldest documented case of cataract throughout history was reported in a famous and
small statue from the 5th dynasty (about 2457-2467 B.C.)
contained in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, Egypt. This statue, discovered in 1860 in Saqqāra, dates from the Old Kingdom and represents a male figure, the priest reader Ka-āper, also called Cheikh el-Beled (Figure 1A). We found an obvious white pupillary reflex in the left eye (Figure 1B). This finding, in an aged man, probably indicates a mature cataract; moreover, it does not appear in the right eye. We suggested that the author carefully inspected a man with cataract and accurately reproduced the physical sign in wood (Ascaso & Cristóbal, 2001). This fact confirms that old
Egyptian knew the disease. By analysis of ancient surgical instruments it is possible to define the history of medical specialties, and acquaint the evolution of specific surgical techniques and operations through the centuries (Aruta et al., 2009). Scientists have often
discussed whether cataract was firstly operated in Ancient Egypt (Bernscherer, 2001). This hypothesis seems plausible (Ascaso et al., 2009). Thus, a wall painting in the tomb of the master builder Ipwy at Thebes (about 1200 B.C.) reveals an oculist treating the eye of a craftsman. Because of the length of the instrument, the scene might also be interpreted as a cataract surgery by couching of the lens into the vitreous cavity (Figure 2).
3000 tahun sebelum islam sudah ada teknologi rawatan katarak....
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 Author| Post time 31-12-2016 06:31 AM | Show all posts
.Atheist.. replied at 31-12-2016 06:23 AM
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/4 ... ataract_surgery.pdf

3000 tahun sebelum islam sudah ada tekno ...

sila hujah di satu bord dan tak payah menunjukkan bahawa menjadi atheist menjadikan awak seorang yg hanya tahu jumping topic apabila struggle gagal menjawab.

lantas menjadikan awak : hanya tahu menjadikan otak as organ sahaja bukan akal yg beroperasi.
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Post time 31-12-2016 06:32 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 30-12-2016 10:31 PM
sila hujah di satu bord dan tak payah menunjukkan bahawa menjadi atheist menjadikan awak seorang y ...

part mana aku tak jawab? lu nie dah makan ubat atau belum?   
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 Author| Post time 31-12-2016 06:39 AM | Show all posts
.Atheist.. replied at 31-12-2016 06:32 AM
part mana aku tak jawab? lu nie dah makan ubat atau belum?

jgn bawa hujah copy paste dari merata rata board di sini , faham?

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