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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

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Post time 26-2-2005 02:12 AM | Show all posts
Wasn't Aisha age is the same with the 9 year old Thai
mother( maybe the thai girl still playing with dolls also...)???
are u saying that Aisha didn't fit to married???

Try another way debmey c'mon!!!

:lol :lol :lol

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Post time 26-2-2005 02:26 AM | Show all posts
Thats paedophilia too.
Many Thai girls prostitute themselves, why don't your girl prostitute herself too? Are Thai girls your model?
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Post time 26-2-2005 02:38 AM | Show all posts
Nope, it's just a proof that a 9 year old are fit to get married and have a baby too...

anymore debmey???c'mon.....

:lol :lol :lol
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Post time 26-2-2005 02:52 AM | Show all posts
Not all 9 year olds are the same. It wasn't for Aisha, she became barren and was still playing with toys when Mo had sex with her.
Regardless of whether one is sexually and reproductively mature at 9, its still paedophilia.

Why do you need to be ashamed of what Mo did? Maybe Allah has no problem with child sex.
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Post time 26-2-2005 02:59 AM | Show all posts
:lol :lol :lol, not all???but it's possibble right???it's possibble that's the word!!

Anymore debmey,cmon!!!!

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Post time 26-2-2005 03:41 AM | Show all posts
Its possible that allah allows child sex right? Possible right? So why be ashame of it?
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Post time 26-2-2005 06:29 AM | Show all posts

Read and digest the "words of wisdom" from the shia muhammadans.


Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriage, Divorce and Relationships

A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.

ref. http://www.homa.org/Details.asp? ... mp;TOCID=2083225413


If that ain't sick..
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Post time 26-2-2005 06:41 AM | Show all posts

Wonder how long these muhammadans can go on denying the pedophilic act?

Pedophile : An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
ref. http://dictionary.reference.com


Pedophilia is not a marriage related issue, it's a age related issue.

Whether p.Muhammad married her or purchased her is not the issue. The issue is the sexual act by p.Muhammad,53(an adult.. overly qualified) towards Aisha,9,(a child).

Aisha was a child, a prepubescent girl. Having sex with pre-pubescent child is crime against nature but the arabians had no problem with that kind of act.
Even the modern day ayotollahs had no problem with pedophilia.. they even recommends it .. LOL

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Post time 26-2-2005 08:37 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 26-2-2005 06:29 AM:

Read and digest the "words of wisdom" from the shia muhammadans.


Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriag ...


OMG!!!
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Post time 26-2-2005 09:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aenemy7 at 26-2-2005 12:48 AM:
Phaedophile is sex without marriage with a minor.....still u all cannot give a hard proof to support your accusation,because it's a legal marriage!! try as best as u can and a ...


We've already give you the hard proof. The broad meaning of pedophilia; an adult who have intercourse with a prepubescent child age 13 and lower.

Pedophile by definition of the APA:
http://www.geocities.com/mass493z/pedophile.html

Where is yours? What's your credential? You said marriage justify pedophilia? Where is your hard proof?  Give support for your claim that an adult who marries a child is legal and not considered a pedophile.

Would you admit, you have no problem marrying and have sex wit a prepubescent. If you do I抣l assure you will go straight to jail.

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm#below
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Post time 26-2-2005 05:16 PM | Show all posts
If only the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have sex with Aisha before marriage,then it's a phaedophile...but it doesn't happen!! it's legally done...so u all fail again to accused the Prophet(pbuh) for phaedophile.....also it's possible for Aisha to get married and have a baby like the 9 year old girl from thai, the family of Aisha also didn't see it as a phaedophile act and they are wise enough to tell whether their daughter is fit to married the prophet and they did alllow it though without any rejections!!  So try again u all , find a good point if u all can...

i believe there's no way u can proof that!! i suggest all the missionaries to think the harderst they can to proof it was a phaedophile act, it's a challenge!!!!

Proof to the world it was a phaedophile and not a marriage....at the end of the day u all have to admit it was a marriage!!! :lol :lol :lol :lol


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Post time 26-2-2005 06:45 PM | Show all posts
It is legal paedophilia under islam.
Just as there is legal rape under islam and legal sodomy and legal cross dressing and sexx slavery under islam.
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Post time 27-2-2005 02:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-26 01:54 AM:
Mo the paedophile who took Aisha to bed when she was only 9 years old and playing with dolls.

Rubbish. All hearsay. Aishah was betrothed to the Prophet at the age of nine but the marrigae was made when she was fourteen and Aishah was widowed at the age of eighteen.Who are you trying to con here preacher man? Yourself? LOL.

Like you say Numbers don't mention sex while trying hard to detract from the truth that shows Numbers smell of paedophilia all the way, so too Bukhari doersn't mention paedophilia from Prophet Mohammad. Bukhari only narrates the pre-marital contract and the conditions that surround it and nothing more.

And to make it more clearer for all to see, the "women children" were never mentioned to be married off but just kept "for themselves" while the women "who knew man by lying with him" were all put to the  death for they were of no "virgin value"

You people do not have a sustainable Western source neccessary to indict the  prophet, that is why you people stick to Bukhari like barnacles to the belly of ship? LOL.

SO WHERE IS THE PROOF OF PAEDOPHILIA? WHERE? WHERE?


ARI FUZZMAN
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Post time 27-2-2005 07:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-27 02:35 PM:

Rubbish. All hearsay. Aishah was betrothed to the Prophet at the age of nine but the marrigae was made when she was fourteen and Aishah was widowed at the age of eighteen...


Looks like Fuzzman has shifted his gear into DENIAL MODE.

LOL
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Post time 27-2-2005 07:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-27 02:35 PM:

Bukhari only narrates the pre-marital contract and the conditions that surround it and nothing more.

Imam Bukhari, specifically recorded that p.Muhammad comsummated his marriage with Aisha when she was only 9 years old.

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Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
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Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
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Consummate:
1)To complete (a marriage) with the first act of sexual intercourse after the ceremony.
2)To fulfill (a sexual desire or attraction) especially by intercourse.
www.dictionary.com

Imam Muslim's records, on the other hand was not so specific...

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Book 008, Number 3309:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.
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Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
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Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
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By the way, anyone knows what calendar they use to calculate the age of Aisha. Was it Islamic Lunar calender or the Gregorian's Solar calendar?

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Post time 27-2-2005 08:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-2-27 07:24 PM:  Looks like Fuzzman has shifted his gear into DENIAL MODE.
LOL

Wrong. Fuzzman has shifted into offensive mode to take on liars who have no solid proofs to supoprt their allegations.

So do you have proof of Prophet Mohammad's alledged paedophilia? Or maybe you'd like to try comment on the verses from Numbers and with a straight face tell Fuzzman that there is no paedophilia in Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:40?
Some people cannot tell when paedophilia is staring them in the face but jump really fast at a legal marriage contract that was executed when the young girl bride was fourteen! What a bunch of loser jokers??


ARI FUZZMAN
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Post time 27-2-2005 10:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-27 08:03 PM:

Wrong...


Fuzzman knows that any old man of 53 having sex with a 9 year old girl is not nice picture. Thats why he is denying all those hadiths that specifically say that p.Muhammad had boinked Aisha when she was 9.

Yes you are in DENIAL MODE.

You are denying the very hadiths that makes you a muslim.

Lets put it this way... p.Muhammas was a pedophilie according to records of Imam Bukhari. Thats the prove you been seeking. Imam Bukhari clearly recorded that p.Muhammad comsummated with Aisha when she was only 9. Thats all the prove needed.

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Post time 27-2-2005 11:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-2-27 10:19 PM:


Fuzzman knows that any old man of 53 having sex with a 9 year old girl is not nice picture. Thats why he is denying all those hadiths that specifically say that p.Muhammad had bo ...


My response:-

The prophet is not a paedophile just b'coz he was married to a 9 yr old girl for once & all. Afterall the marriage was arranged by Aisya's father, Abu Bakar. The marriage is legitimate. If the prophet was a paedophile, he won't be married to older women. As a prophet, he can always get younger children for his bride at anytime, anywhere....... but he didn't!

It's really ridiculous to judge someone as paedophile when he's only married once to a 9 yr old girl & it happens that she's his last wife.
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Post time 28-2-2005 12:01 AM | Show all posts
We just have to accept then that paedophilia is allowed in islam then, just like rape cos Islam is a religion with no morals.

peace
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Post time 28-2-2005 12:04 AM | Show all posts
BTW, was there any age limit to get married in the old days? Was there such laws anyway? You guys shd stop all these craps.
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