Betulkah teori ni????

hamizao

....pernah sekali lepas saya baru tau pasal OBE ni dan sy dapat expirience lagi berada di first stage utk OBE tu, masa tu sy sedar dan ingat" oh bertenang ni buleh try OBE ni"....

Theta or near theta state...? Hmmm all I know is that there are several ways to get to that state, but need also be aware of the power of imagery. I am sure my friend mbhcsf...is more well versed in such matters.

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ussopp

saya tatau....hehe...mungkin....
lagipun semua yg terjadi adalah tak sengaja....
saya cuba cek pada pandangan science ia kata itu adalah separa sedar....

yes...yg saya jelas memang separa sedar....

sebelum saya tau pasal OBE ni mmg sudah banyak kali saya jadi separa sedar nie....tapi saya tatau lagi...bila jadi sy buat tatau jer la...
tapi lepas sy terbaca mengenai OBE, baru sy tau itu adalah first stage utk bukak pintu utk OBE nie....

tapiii, sekarang dah jarang sangat jadi perkara nie.....dan mcm sy cerita kat atas, lepas sy dah tau pasal OBE nie, ada sekali terjadi lagi separa sedar nie,,, dan sy ingatkan diri cubalah discover tgk....saya cuba tenangkan diri....sebab masa separa sedar nie, biasanya keadaan tak tenang....rasa tak selesa....
saya cuba tenangkan diri last2 tertidur....hehehe...

hmmm...mchbf tau ke?  

hallo mcbhscf....pernah expirience ke?

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hamizao

are we expanding ? or with the increasing number of holes being formed by the dead stars weighing particluar mass  and so on ...hmm.....?

I believe they have come to that conclussion. It seems that within the first miniscule of a second after it's birth, it has expanded to the size of our solar system but there cannot be too many of these black holes(for now, perhaps) capable of weighing their quantum effect in terms of gravity as they don't  observe many gamma rays.

hamizao

I mean the clinical aspect  . At least I think so.

ussopp

urm...sy tak faham....

huhu...mungkin ayat tu advance sgt utk sy....

wat do u mean?

hamizao

Sometimes, I do wonder why the universe go to all the trouble to be there......just for us, do you think?

ussopp

Originally posted by hamizao at 18-6-2008 12:24 AM
Sometimes, I do wonder why the universe go to all the trouble to be there......just for us, do you think?

hehe...yeah thats wonder is not baseless...

sometime I wonder, because it is just for us....i even think that from one absolute refference point, relatively and respectively, maybe earth is the center of universe....

physic

Originally posted by ussopp at 18-6-2008 12:33 AM


hehe...yeah thats wonder is not baseless...

sometime I wonder, because it is just for us....i even think that from one absolute refference point, relatively and respectively, maybe earth i ...

don joke man....

seladanganas

black hole hanyalah satu teori yg belum dibuktikan lagi penemuannya. yg ada hanya model dependent observation. mungkin dlm 10 atau 20 thn lagi  dah ada teori baru yg menerangkan  fenomena ini.

aku_EnSeM

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 17-6-2008 03:11 PM
there had been a thing? shoudl i call it just a thig or what well it's a mathematical equation thatis based on a piece of folded papers into layers in which the "dimension" of the universe could  ...

What is the thing that trying to transmit back particle?

Well, yes black hole is a space cruncher and indeed, the universe is expanding. However, the number of black  hole, or more precisely the number of mass that contribute to gravity is just not enough to halt the current expansion of the universe.

aku_EnSeM

Originally posted by seladanganas at 18-6-2008 01:20 PM
black hole hanyalah satu teori yg belum dibuktikan lagi penemuannya. yg ada hanya model dependent observation. mungkin dlm 10 atau 20 thn lagi  dah ada teori baru yg menerangkan  fenomena ini.

Hehehe...

Dan penemuan black hole tu mungkin takkan berlaku pasal sesiapa yg menemuinya akan masuk ke dalam black hole, dan dia langsung xdpt menyebarkan penemuannya kpd semua org...

Agul

Originally posted by ussopp at 17-6-2008 10:35 PM


hehe..tenkiu for reminding me.....
yes, the wolrd will never be the same again....

but right now, I dont think its important....because it is not necessary....
cuma saya percaya benda tu ...

If you're not prepared to find a thing or two that may surprise you, better no. Night time, or nap time used to be a contradictory time for me... when I was a kid, the symptom can be quite startling, jarring and scary. As time goes on, it's no longer scary or full of dread, just bothersome.

One thing lead to another, spontantenous experience lead to research, research lead to experiments,
more research leads to爉ore things, and my perception cannot be the same anymore. Sometime I think it's nicer to experince this thing, so I can have the same view and perception as other person. But  I think if you don't go to deep, it's not that dangerous or life altering. You can always fit what you experinece to your past belief, so it's ok.

Several years ago I try to crack this out, so, I did some experiment, I'm even a regular at one very big international forum on this subject. I no longer have any interest in this thing now, but the damage are already done. So beware.

ussopp

Originally posted by physic at 18-6-2008 01:16 AM


don joke man....

maybe a center in a way...who knows...

not in a way like everything is orbiting around us just like we go touring around the sun.
not a center like that...maybe metaphorically...

oh dont take serious...
i just wonder since the most amazingly balance condition that i know ever exist is here, which allow from a simple yet simpleton creature like algae until a complex type that conscious and can think like us can live perfectly.
just look at  the bue sea and green bonsai beside the lcd computer....
praise be to God for the perfect balance condition.

ussopp

Originally posted by Agul at 18-6-2008 05:52 PM


If you're not prepared to find a thing or two that may surprise you, better no. Night time, or nap time used to be a contradictory time for me... when I was a kid, the symptom can be quite st ...

hmmm... owh the post never satisfy me....it will never be enough.
i hope the story will come out...later. im sure its not short.
the post is too attractive...but youve said you have no interest anymore.
me too.

but i somehow can relate what i expirence parralel to science and my religion....as far as i know, they always fit.
and i dont find any significant to go any deeper....

but i think I want to know what youve been through.....
what happen?
do you mind to tell us....or you wanna save it for other time?

Agul

Actually i've wrote a bit about that in OBE thread in msp, a few years back. But some poster by the name se....th (used to be regular in this science forum) keeps bugging and harrassing me so, i don't think i'm gonna talk about it anymore in this forum. I know you mean well but I don't want to bother with that kind of people anymore...

Better not use this thread as it will be off topic. If there are some general question I can answer it a bit, only lately been too bz...

ussopp

Originally posted by Agul at 18-6-2008 07:31 PM
Actually i've wrote a bit about that in OBE thread in msp, a few years back. But some poster by the name se....th (used to be regular in this science forum) keeps bugging and harrassing me so, i  ...

oo...you are rite...better not to go off topic.
okay , ill check your post...at mysteri, pranormal and supernatural is it....?

owh, i really understand ur feeling about the guy....i  really dont want to talk about him.

Agul

it's quite a long tie. in a big thread. i don't know which pages or how ro find it.

Agul

Lets not talk about this here since it will be off-topic but I hope people here are ok with me just giving this link. If anyone want to talk about this, lets put it in different thread.

You may find this interesting. I just come around this and have not check it.

Small excerpt from the video interviews.

Physicist Tom Campbell spoke about his experiences exploring different realms of consciousness. He worked with Robert Monroe in the early 1970s, helping establish Monroe's laboratory for the study of consciousness, and develop the Hemi-Sync technology, used to attain specific altered states.

Learning to have out-of-body experiences (OBEs) was the doorway that led Campbell to further explorations into non-physical realms. The non-physical realms have greater variety and fewer constraints than the physical world we are familiar with, he explained. He has made trips to the probable future, and said that humanity still exists a thousand years from now.

Beliefs and expectations surrounding the out-of-body experience can hold people back, he said, adding that the mind's intent can be a powerful tool for moving into non-physical realms. In his book series, 'My Big TOE,' TOE is an acronym for "Theory of Everything," and he uses his knowledge gleaned from the non-physical realms to expound on life, purpose, physics and evolution.

牋Link for the audio interview on Youtube which consists of 11 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcLWTuwT7Kk

[ Last edited by  Agul at 19-6-2008 09:05 PM ]

mbhcsf

Originally posted by ussopp at 19-6-2008 06:23 PM


oo...you are rite...better not to go off topic.
okay , ill check your post...at mysteri, pranormal and supernatural is it....?

owh, i really understand ur feeling about the guy....i  real ...

hmm .. i see.. apparently that guy tends to be very diplomatic with me so ..may be it is the way you approach aperson kot rasanya ..sebab yeah i have no problem with him while moderating this board few years  back actually.

hamizao

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