Animals performs homosexuality. why God allowed this??

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 01:49 AM
like i said , i have no problem with vegetarianism ... i do have a problem with people saying that those who eat meat are homosexuals...

i have seen chinese, hindus, christians ,jews going vegetarian but muslims going vegetarian I fully doubt.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:07 AM



i have seen chinese, hindus, christians ,jews going vegetarian but muslims going vegetarian I fully doubt.

Oo really. Gays always lembut, is that mean they eat vegetarian ?

Obersliutenant

[quote]Originally posted by Debmey at 13-11-2006 03:39 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 12-11-2006 11:58 PM
I didn't blame the the dolphin for mankind's action. I am blaming your allah for inventing homos.


DIDIDNT Your GOd Invented it too ? Its There isnt it ?
QUOTE:

as the water temperature changes the oyster will either turn into male or female ,doesnt that explain it theoriticaly ?
Does the dolphin change sex with changing water tempearture? So how does that explain it theoretically? Please explain yourself.

Duhh , homosexuals itch to go for a sex operation to make them look more female, they wear jewelries and stuff , i stand by my rationale , different animals have different reproductive systems  and why are you making this an issue ? that is basic science  Debmey


Debmey QUOTE:

If they change sex, how can they be both male and female at the same time? What talking you?

your question is contradicting each other .. How? ive already told you how


Debmey QUOTE:

Its not hermadophite, its hermaphrodite. You see, you don't even know what you are talking about.
Didn't you just say that they change sex, so how can they be bisexual?
You don't even know about sex buddy and you got all your terms wrong. Do you need to check your own sex? Did allah made you that way?

Oh thank you for correcting my spelling, but that is really the least that you can do right? hermdophite or hermadoprodite , i intended to bring forward the same meaning anyway .. so what. Isnt bisexuality a part of the whole chapter ?  yeh sure i only got my spelling wrong but youre clueless of your own questions... lol the third question was just a retaliation from what i threw at you earlier. Get a Life Boi!

[ Last edited by  Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:19 AM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 13-11-2006 11:16 AM


Oo really. Gays always lembut, is that mean they eat vegetarian ?

i never seen abnormal sexual feeling those takes vegetarian. they know how to think what is good and bad unlike those who consume too much of meats. even crab, shrimp, kerang and those dirty meat ok for muslims.

no wonder rape and murder case among in Malay muslims society is increasing unless they change their lifestyle to vegetarian.

can you answer this:

why allah create homo animals?

why allah did not says adam and eve plus animals are vegetarian in beginning?

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Obersliutenant

Ive answered all of that multiple times...


Animals are NOT vegetarian in the beginning and carnivourous animals exist because the world is getting more sinned , its the basic ecological structure of nature , havent you heard about the food chain ?

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:24 AM
Ive answered all of that multiple times...


Animals are NOT vegetarian in the beginning and carnivourous animals exist because the world is getting more sinned , its the basic ecological struct ...

so, ur  allah did create first humans and animals none vegetarian??


finally u copy my words that the world get more sins God made violent animals


[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:27 AM ]

Obersliutenant

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:21 AM


i never seen abnormal sexual feeling those takes vegetarian. they know how to think what is good and bad unlike those who consume too much of meats. even crab, shrimp, kerang and those dirty me ...

you can go ahead with your vegetarian ways truth 8 , youre free to eat whatever you like... Im not stopping anyone from becoming vegetarian

Obersliutenant

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:25 AM



so, ur  allah did create first humans and animals none vegetarian??


finally u copy my words that the world get more sins God made violent animals

i said not all the animals are vegetarian ...

there are some meat eaters and there are some leaf eaters. the meat eaters eat the leaf eaters to keep their population down so the leaf eaters wont finish all the plants .. get it ?

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:29 AM

i said not all the animals are vegetarian ...

there are some meat eaters and there are some leaf eaters. the meat eaters eat the leaf eaters to keep their population down so the leaf eaters wont finish all the plants .. get it ?

i dont care what u says but i want to know whether ur allah says in begining humans and animals are vegetaraian? dont give that I says or u says    because u not allah rite?

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:27 AM



you can go ahead with your vegetarian ways truth 8 , youre free to eat whatever you like... Im not stopping anyone from becoming vegetarian

so ur allah create first humans and animals none vegetarian and why homo animals?

Obersliutenant

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:31 AM



i dont care what u says but i want to know whether ur allah says in begining humans and animals are vegetaraian? dont give that I says or u says    because u not allah rite?

ohh fine... you dont care what i say anymore now yuh ? why bother asking questions?

Udah ler Obers, ko layan orang giler lama2 ko pun boleh jadi giler..  LOLOLOL

Orang ni tak pernah gi skolah.

Obersliutenant

mrmm ok , might as well concentrate on my own forum ...see you arounds then ...

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:42 AM



ohh fine... you dont care what i say anymore now yuh ? why bother asking questions?

so ur allah create first humans and animals none vegetarian and why homo animals?

Truth.8

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:44 AM
mrmm ok , might as well concentrate on my own forum ...see you arounds then ...

muslims stuck and run like chicken. this what make me doubt abt islam

Truth.8

Originally posted by samerosie at 13-11-2006 11:42 AM
Udah ler Obers, ko layan orang giler lama2 ko pun boleh jadi giler..  LOLOLOL

Orang ni tak pernah gi skolah.

but ur muhammad did not go to school and unable to read and write. probably he made a mistake by saying allah made animals and first humans none vegetarian.

Debmey

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:16 AM

DIDIDNT Your GOd Invented it too ? Its There isnt it ?

No sir, my God did not invent homo. Homo is a fallen nature that has nothing to do with God.
But since muslims do not beleive in teh fallen nature, then logically, allah must have invented homo.

Duhh , homosexuals itch to go for a sex operation to make them look more female, they wear jewelries and stuff , i stand by my rationale , different animals have different reproductive systems  and why are you making this an issue ? that is basic science  Debmey

Well, dophins have similar functioning sex organs as humans. so what is the difference that made their homo justifiable by allah?

your question is contradicting each other .. How? ive already told you how

No you didn't. you claim sex chnage but then claim bisexuality at the same time. Isn't that contradictory?

Oh thank you for correcting my spelling, but that is really the least that you can do right? hermdophite or hermadoprodite , i intended to bring forward the same meaning anyway .. so what. Isnt bisexuality a part of the whole chapter ?  yeh sure i only got my spelling wrong but youre clueless of your own questions... lol the third question was just a retaliation from what i threw at you earlier. Get a Life Boi!

So why did allah invent homo in dolphins?



[ Last edited by  Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 11:19 AM ]

Originally posted by samerosie at 13-11-2006 11:42 AM
Udah ler Obers, ko layan orang giler lama2 ko pun boleh jadi giler..  LOLOLOL

Orang ni tak pernah gi skolah.

Bukan saja giler, tapi bangang n bahlol.. just ignore them..

Obersliutenant

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-11-2006 11:46 AM



muslims stuck and run like chicken. this what make me doubt abt islam

Truth 8,  you already say that you couldnt give a damn abut anyone else's opposing views .. why should there be  a need for discussion ?  everyone knows that the only answers and questions that you are happy with are only  your own.  why are you whining now?

debmey dear sir may i ask you a personal question?


are you vegetarian?

[ Last edited by  Obersliutenant at 13-11-2006 12:00 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 13-11-2006 11:57 AM


Bukan saja giler, tapi bangang n bahlol.. just ignore them..

when muslims unable to answer, they will call names. this show they consumed dirty meat plus homo animal meats.

so ur allah create first humans and animals none vegetarian and why homo animals?