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I caught Menjj and a_a lie to defend sura5:51
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Originally posted by israfil at 18-5-2006 12:10 PM
Typical christian, just follow dont argue . No wonderlaaaa
Did not u Typical muslims argue with me and support him all the way on his fake surah? No wonder laaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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Originally posted by KENNKID at 18-5-2006 12:15 PM
Stop behaving like a two year old
did u says this to wlio? I guess not because u got no guts |
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LIAR.8 support LIAR.8 == HUGE LIAR
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 12:07 PM
The issue here is, menj call him self well know in Islamic things yet he failed to realize this. He did it with intention to misleads others and he aware of it.
Menj is dangerous con men . ...
Not all translators use the same numbering system for quran's ayat...many people who have dealt with a variety of English translations of the Quran in details will soon realise this (as we are doing right now)....that's why the reference to the actual arabic text is important if there are confusion such as these.
I think yusuf ali's translation follows Egyptian's sytem so that's why the ayat numbering is slightly different.
To say that this is evidence for supporting your point that Menj is intentionally misleading and therefore dangerous con men is an obvious slippery sloping to the extreme! |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 12:16 PM
Did not u Typical muslims argue with me and support him all the way on his fake surah? No wonder laaaaaaaaaaaaa
I support him as muslim brother. Not support the false soroh as claimed by you. |
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Originally posted by always_typo at 18-5-2006 12:26 PM
Not all translators use the same numbering system for quran's ayat...many people who have dealt with a variety of English translations of the Quran in details will soon realise this (as we ar ...
But the flow of one verse should follow the other and precede another, without any inconsistency and irregularity.. when you recite the Qur'an, you don't recite 5:51 first and then recite 5:50 ... |
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Originally posted by always_typo at 18-5-2006 12:26 PM
Not all translators use the same numbering system for quran's ayat...many people who have dealt with a variety of English translations of the Quran in details will soon realise this (as we ar ...
You are right brother. |
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Originally posted by always_typo at 18-5-2006 12:04 PM
Oreng , this is really a non issue. it is from the same verse (al Maidah) but ayat 48. I picked this from USC-MSA' s website. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html . See the translation of ayat 48 below and compare it to ayat 51. There must be some typing or numbering error in the book, or the ayat numbering in the book is following a slightly different system in which some ayat are combined and considered one, thus making the number of ayat less (not the quran any less).
005.048
YUSUFALI: To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;
This translation correspond well with the arabic version in the picture where you can see the word "MINA" on the right side from the phrase "MINALKITAB". The word "MINA" is not present in the arabic version of ayat 51.
TQ always_Typo (not always_tipu). |
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Reply #210 Oreng's post
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That's a good one Oreng. At least TYPO but not TIPU. Senang2 nak manipulate org. Kalau ikhlas, tegurlah secara baik. Ni tak nak manipulate pulak. |
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U Muslims peoples nothing but great pretender and ego. U all know the mistake yet what I got? Still mocking and laughing.
No wonder Islam will never be peace religion and become one of worst nightmare to all nations. Muslims and Muslims act violent among themselves but they also act violent to kill the kafir.
We have bunch peoples here who know their mistake yet so ego to apologies.
Calling me :
Taking ganja
Mad baking dogs
Liar
Liar.8 worst human women produced
And etc
Yet, all those above statements should suit Muslims.
They supported Menj for the verses and now coming typo error and those crap view.
I have produced evidences the so called holy book sura 5:51 says different wordings yet Menj firm with his sura and muslims include Kennkid achong bin Abdullah support Menj and labeling me barking dog until Bo discover some printing error until Kennkid who pretend to be wise Koran yet also supported Bo discovery.
Than again, do muslims know what book they holding? Holy or unholy?
As for me, I do not believed that so called book is holy. I have my Bible did not have discrepancies or printing error but in Islam YES.
Finally, it was Christian who discover the discrepancies in menj sura when they called me barking dog.
A dark roses instead of apologies ????? what such ego muslims has? Is it too difficult for muslims to says:
Truth.8 , we sorry and realize our mistake and thanks for showing the fake /or printing error of that fake verses?
Can the says that? NO, because too much ego on them.
BTW, can anyone provide me Jakim full addresss and telephone number?
I m sure at least u muslims can do this for me rite? instead of ur ego?
thanks
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 01:22 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:31 PM
still in denying mode because i expose ur lying tounge:
read this:
Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another
u mind telling me what ...
Racist? Errr... What had really blinded you is, you had take the verse independently, while the verse depending on the previous verse..
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YUSUFALI: It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
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YUSUFALI: And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
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005.048
YUSUFALI: To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;
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YUSUFALI: And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.
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YUSUFALI: Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).
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Urrghh.. What a pity for t.8, another time caught being ignorant! |
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Originally posted by greekgod at 18-5-2006 01:14 PM
Racist? Errr... What had really blinded you is, you had take the verse independently, while the verse depending on the previous verse..
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YUSUFALI: It was We who revealed the ...
u mind telling this to menj because it was he who paste that fake sura |
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.....and one more things.
When i observed muslims behaving pretender, how their manipulate and accused me, lying, covering for the liars like menj and etc.
My faith getting stronger with Christ. Why? because i see evil and dark in islam and muslims. |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 01:13 PM
U Muslims peoples nothing but great pretender and ego. U all know the mistake yet what I got? Still mocking and laughing.
No wonder Islam will never be peace religion and become one of worst ni ...
now you become fiery? how about you yourself putting those words onto someone else... learn to grow up la please...
very typical for loser... not only you are straying away from your own topic, now you are looking for symphaty. |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 01:15 PM
u mind telling this to menj because it was he who paste that fake sura
Enough la... just because you spotted one mistake it doesn't mean you now rule the world.. remember the Malay proberb?..You "macam monyet dapat bunga".. thats how you are celebrating it..  |
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Originally posted by KENNKID at 18-5-2006 01:18 PM
Enough la... just because you spotted one mistake it doesn't mean you now rule the world.. remember the Malay proberb?..You "macam monyet dapat bunga".. thats how you are celebrating ...
one mistake??? i have counted attacked many mistake in islam world. like buraq, sitting face to face for wedding and all those crap in islam teachings.
u guys nothing but pretender but in image of:lebai: |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 01:15 PM
u mind telling this to menj because it was he who paste that fake sura
why should i tell him, when the thing is you say that verse is racist, while i think you are fooling yourself, into seeing that this thread has took many pages already.
doesnt matter how strong your faith to christ, please bear in mind, he's dead and your are worshipping ghost, in easy term to use lah...
i dont know why people believe in Paul, all the while he's gay and jesus had never met him.
back to surah 5:51 - what is your stand now? |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-5-2006 01:17 PM
.....and one more things.
When i observed muslims behaving pretender, how their manipulate and accused me, lying, covering for the liars like menj and etc.
My faith getting stronger with Chri ...
Hello Truth, we're not upset at all with your faith getting stronger with Christianity. It's just that we're not happy with you for manipulating the printing mistake. You shd be sincere with yourself. |
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Post time 18-5-2006 12:22 PM
