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Post Last Edit by belacan79 at 31-1-2010 18:29
179# HangPC2
Wa tengok the size of the pilot dalam cockpit dan video T-50 bersama Su-35, wa rasa the plane is actually not that big. Cumer the design makes it look big. Sebenarnyer, the size is around Su-30 size I think. It will not be able to carry many weapons internally. But probably enough for air to air combat. Russian missles are big afterall.
Just observe yourself. Jugak not as as stealthy as F-22 dan f-35. In terms of electronik dan radar, sudah tentu kalah kepada US and the west. But of course, you can combine the two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YCQsN8O_Q4&feature=player_embedded |
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aku rasa mcm dia simpan arm kat luar la...ni bahaya very visible to enemy's radar....that's y JSF & Raptor put inside all the missiles...... |
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rasa rasa waeapon luar ada .. dalam pon ada bergantung kepada misi... harap harap kita bole guna jet ni.. pasti jadi beruk jiran kita tu.... |
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185# lkick2113
Refer back to the other pictures and video of the T-50 with the Su-30 plane to get an idea of the size.
The central fuselage with the supposed internal weapons bay is not really that large. Russian fanboys like to say that this plane can hold twice as many missiles as the F-22 but one look at the central fuselage indicates that this is not possible. As I have said, Russian missiles with thier fins are large.
I dont know. Looks like you can fit in around 4 missiles there at most. Dont forget fuel carriage and electronics. Russian electronics are not as miniturized as compared to Western ones. They are large and bulk. Maybe 6 missiles if Russia can clip the wings of future missiles. Other missiles/bombs have to be carried externally.
Under such circumstances, the load-out is actually similar to the F-35. Surprise..surprise..har har |
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Post Last Edit by belacan79 at 31-1-2010 22:12
F-22 and F-35 bellies. F-22 carries 8 missiles internally. F-35 carries 4 missiles currently but can carry up to 6-8 missiles with spiral upgrades as declared by Lockheed Martin. See the difference in terms of signature management or stealth by US. |
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185# lkick2113
Refer back to the other pictures and video of the T-50 with the Su-30 plane to get an idea of the size.
The central fuselage with the supposed internal weapons bay is not real ...
belacan79 Post at 31-1-2010 21:56 
agree with u...maybe depend on the design itself...i don't know....normally the design is base on the war doctrine, as u know...US normally practice the "shoot & run" doctrine so to avoid their fighter detected on enemy's radar they design the fighter as invisible as they can...as a result they find the solution to hide the missile in the weapon bay....coz Carrying missiles and bombs internally maintains its stealth capability and maintains lower drag resulting in higher top speeds and longer combat ranges... |
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ready to drop smart bomb to destroy bunker , wait till 2014 ! |
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aku rasa mcm dia simpan arm kat luar la...ni bahaya very visible to enemy's radar....that's y JSF & Raptor put inside all the missiles......
lkick2113 Post at 31-1-2010 21:16 
f 117 yg kata halimunan pon, simpan missile dalam badan, boleh kena tangkap radar masa perang bosnia dan di tembak jatuh sam yg di pakai tentara serbia, padahal sam yg di pakai tu dah tua lagi. |
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Tahniah kepada Russia kerana berjaya menerbangkan PAK FA buat pertama kali, walaupun dilanda krisis ekonomi yg teruk dan pembangunan teknologi avation yg lembap..nobody thot they could pull this off w/pun sekadar base line config. Lets see samada cabaran Putin utk melengkapkan barisan hadapan RuAF dengan PAF FA menjelang 2014 bakal dapat dipenuhi oleh pihak Sukhoi.. |
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Kalau tak silap ... elektronics PAK-FA are from India !!!
India nak 2 seater-version macam MKI
Harga sebijik USD 100 mil !!!! |
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HangPC2 Post at 31-1-2010 20:04 
Ini phototype aje .. kalau ratakan bawah PAK-FA ni ... byk missile boleh bawak ni |
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Kalau tak silap ... elektronics PAK-FA are from India !!!
India nak 2 seater-version macam MKI
Harga sebijik USD 100 mil !!!!
mdmee Post at 3-2-2010 12:27
bukan Russia buat Sendiri ker ??? kerjasama dengan Taiwan
buat Microprocessor untuk PAK FA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_(computer) |
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the correct word is JV with India .... macam Brahmos |
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Russia JV dengan India untuk Projek PAK FA Versi Indian (FGFA)..... |
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