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Embraer EMB145 ERIEYE vs BOEING 737 AEW&C AWACs

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Post time 28-12-2008 02:54 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDv2ABV6KHg

Ericsson redar is not full 360 degree koverage. Only US MESA, US E-E2C dan US AWAC redar is 360 degrees. Isreal Phalcon is also 360 degree koverage.
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Post time 28-12-2008 05:02 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 belacan79's post

Cost: EMB145
Everything Else: 737 Wedgetail.

Apart from runway takeoff clearance requirements, there simply isn't anything else Erieye can beat Wedgetail with. Even the 737 is easier and cheaper to maintain because of all those commercial airliners...
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 Author| Post time 28-12-2008 10:46 PM | Show all posts
If you canot get US MESA or Isreal Phalcon, the next best AEW/AWAC is the all new E-2D Advance Hawkeye. It come with new Electronic Scaned Array redar(not the old mechanical redar) for full 360 degree redar koverage.  Saab Ericsson does not has full 360 degree koverage. It will be used by US navy and many other countris to replace old E-2C Hawkeye. But maybi slightly more expensif( 1-2 US billion dollars) and need US clearance. Need only very very short runway to take off and very short preparation time.




May 1, 2007 The first Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, being built for the U.S. Navy, made its first public appearance at rollout ceremonies yesterday. While the E-2D抯 external appearance is similar to the E-2C, the Advanced Hawkeye抯 systems and capabilities are completely redesigned. At the heart of the aircraft is the new Lockheed Martin APY-9 radar that can "see" smaller targets and more of them at greater ranges than the E-2C. The new rotodome, developed by L-3 Communications Randtron Antenna Systems, contains the critically important, continuous, 360-degree scanning capability, while adding an electronically scanned array. This system allows operators to focus the radar on selected areas of interest. The new E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, in development by Northrop Grumman since 2001 and unveiled on April 30, has been the U.S. Navy's number one aviation priority. It will make its first flight this summer.

The new E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, in development by Northrop Grumman since 2001 and unveiled on April 30, has been the U.S. Navy's number one aviation priority. It will make its first flight this summer.

At the ceremony before hundreds, Rear Admiral Pete Williams congratulated Team Hawkeye for delivering a "game-changer for the warfighter." Williams is the Program Executive Officer for Tactical Aircraft with Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md.

Tom Vice, vice president of Airborne Early Warning and Joint Battle Management Command and Control Programs for Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems sector, said, "In December 2001, we promised to design and deliver a totally new Hawkeye, an aircraft more adaptable to quickly changing technologies, one that allows the Navy to better respond to changing threats from changing enemies. That promise is embodied in the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye. Today, the people of Northrop Grumman delivered on a promise."

NAVAIR Advanced Hawkeye program manager, Captain Randy Mahr, said, following the event, "This aircraft we are building here in St. Augustine today will provide what America needs well in to the middle of the century. Our Navy program has an exceptional industry partner -- Northrop Grumman and the companies that comprise Team Hawkeye."

The aircraft is the first of two test aircraft to be built under the nearly US$2 billion system demonstration and development contract awarded in 2001 to Northrop Grumman. The Navy plans to procure a total of 75 Advanced Hawkeye aircraft.

Hawkeye operators will have new radar system workstations, integrated satellite communications capabilities and other tools to better manage the battle space and provide warfighters with expanded situational awareness and information to complete their missions.

An additional new feature of the E-2D is the state-of-the-art glass cockpit that replaces prior-generation Hawkeye displays and avionics systems. One of the advantages is that pilots can also serve as weapon system operators.

The E-2D Advanced Hawkeye will provide Joint U.S. forces and coalition partners airborne battle management command and control from the sea, in both the over-land and over-water environments.

The Navy and Northrop Grumman team will begin flight testing in Q3 this year. Navy squadrons will be equipped with Advanced Hawkeyes as they are delivered beginning in 2011.


http://www.gizmag.com/go/7176/



[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 28-12-2008 10:55 PM ]
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Post time 30-12-2008 02:01 PM | Show all posts
wish rmaf dpt satu/dua biji e-2d  dalam hayat wa.
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Post time 30-12-2008 03:19 PM | Show all posts


I wish for this. Amin.
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Post time 30-12-2008 03:26 PM | Show all posts
and should this aircraft be obselete if malaysia get one?

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Post time 30-12-2008 03:31 PM | Show all posts
Tak dapat E2d, dapat EMB 145H ni pun dah cukup dah.

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Post time 30-12-2008 03:46 PM | Show all posts
Tak dapat erieye, dapat ni pun jadilah, beli secondhand dari China.

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Post time 31-12-2008 09:38 AM | Show all posts

Balas #8 tangopapa\ catat

Itu kalu dapat ar .. ko pun tahu jer la,entah2 dalam hayat kiter nie entah dapat entah tidak kiter dapat nengok epos kiter ada benda nie dalam inventori dier .. aku doakan la semoga dapat nengok .. aku pun mcm ko gak teringin sangat ..
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Post time 31-12-2008 09:46 AM | Show all posts

Balas #9 superhornet\ catat

teringat lagu Teringin - shima
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Post time 31-12-2008 04:01 PM | Show all posts

Balas #10 tangopapa\ catat

Kalau mcm tu meh ler sesama kiter nanyi lagu tu kat persidangan parlimen moga diorang tunaikan permintaan kiter ...  
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Balas #11 superhornet\ catat

good idea... atau pun kita nyanyi masa perbarisan epos day tahun depan
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Post time 31-12-2008 07:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #6 tangopapa's post

Almost already is. E-2C to be retired within 2009 for RSAF. G-550s are scheduled to return by January 2009.
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Balas #13 mentosonline\ catat

What do u mean by retired? Sg selling back those E2c to a third country?



In May 2007 Singapore officially confirmed its intention to buy                        
four Gulfstream G550 special mission business jets, configured for                        
Airborne Early Warning missions. These aircraft will replace four                        
Northrop Grumman E-2C Hawkeye aircraft currently in service. The                       
first aircraft is scheduled for delivery this year According to the                        
Singapore MOD, the G550 AEW will be capable of flying 9 hours                        
missions at an altitude of 41,000ft (12,500m). With a longer range                        
and higher ceiling (up to 51,000 ft), compared to the Hawkeye, the                        
G550 AEW will provide long-range detection of low-flying targets                        
and better support long range strike fighters such as the new                        
F-15SG.
                        
Singapore will receive the first aircraft of this year, and all                        
four are expected to be operational by 2010. No details were                        
released about the electronic and radar suite to be installed in                        
the aircraft, but, it is a known fact that the only system                        
currently available for this platform is the Israeli IAI/Elta 2085                        
PHALCON radar, developed for four Israel Air Force G550 AEW                        
aircraft known as Eitam, currently being delivered by IAI/Elta. The                        
first aircraft was handed over by Gulfstream on September 2006.
                        
The PHALCON suite includes four sensors - radar, friend or for                        
identification system (IFF), Electronic Support Measures electronic                        
intelligence (ESM/ELINT) and Communications Signal Monitoring /                        
Communications Intelligence (CSM/COMINT) systems. All sensors are                        
fed through a unique fusion technique, providing continuous                        
cross-correlation of targets generated by all sensors, providing                        
automated system-wide tracks of targets detected by each sensor.                        
The multi-beam, electronically scanning phased array radar utilizes                        
time-space energy management technique facilitating effective,                        
multi-mode operations and coverage of 360 degrees using only four                        
planar sections - two in conformal arrays, and two at the nose cone                        
and tail sections.
                        
Derivatives of this radar system are operational with the                        
Chilean Air Force and are under final integration on IL-76 aircraft                        
for the Indian Air Force. Israel Aerospace Industries developed the                        
G550 AEW system as part of a broad range of special mission                        
aircraft, based on Gulfstream's jets. One of these is a SIGNT                        
platform, developed by IAI's subsidiary Elta Systems, for the                        
Israel Air Force. For these applications Elta is offering the                        
EL/I-3001 AISIS
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Post time 1-1-2009 02:08 AM | Show all posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnUo1xew7-M
http://defense-update.com/events/2008/summary/singapore08_nad.htm
i doubt the fate of E2C will ever be known it will probably be used as a reserve

[ Last edited by  desert_fox at 1-1-2009 01:10 AM ]
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 Author| Post time 1-1-2009 07:29 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 tangopapa's post

SG sistems is well meintained. If Sg sell E-2c to Malaysia at special freindship price, will malaysia buy? But Sg will take out all sg origin sistem of course. E-2c can be upgreded to E-2c 2000(on offer to Malaysia buy US) and later E-2D.
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Post time 1-1-2009 11:15 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 tangopapa's post

No one really knows. The E-2Cs where upgraded circa ~2000 if I remember correctly with new radar and electronics but the airframes themselves are very old. Some speculation is that it may be converted into UAVs or refitted like one of the C-130s we have, that is to a EW aircraft.
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Balas #16 belacan79\ catat

I dont think malaysia will take dat offer. It is more worthed to buy a brand new.
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Balas #17 mentosonline\ catat

Refitted EW/UAV to this aircraft may need some evaluation. Do u think american congress will agree on this, as a matter effect, all US military aircraft selling or modification need their authorization first if im not mistaken. If not, ur E2c will end up at Nevada.
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 Author| Post time 1-1-2009 05:18 PM | Show all posts
Tango, Us has oredi give Sg acess to E-2C sistem. Sg DSTA rewrote the source code for E-2c sistem and redar to make it more eficient and powerful.

Upgraded E-2C Airborne Early Warning Aircraft

The E-2C aircraft was acquired from the US in the mid-1980s.Today, the explosion of advances computing has rendered its military computers obsolete and increasingly difficult to maintain. And it could not meet the demands for better performance.

Together with the Singapore defence industry, the DTG upgraded the entire computing and software systems. State-of-the art equipment was adapted to the harsh military environment and millions of lines of code were rewritten. The engineers also made sure that the system would be easy to upgrade, so that new technologies could be inserted in the future. The software was entirely rewritten to meet real-time performance needs while giving a more user-friendly look and feel.


http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/resources/e-books/ebklist.-imindefPars-0008-DownloadFile.tmp/ds21.pdf

SG acess to US militery high tech is very very high in reality.

I read somewer Sg and ISreal work together on Phalcon phase array redar which is one of the most powerful redar around.

[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 1-1-2009 05:20 PM ]
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