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Post time 27-3-2007 12:18 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
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that is the symbol of infinity.. ask about infinity people will say too big.... endless.... but have you ever really think of it???
wat exactly is infinity?? is it that the number for us human to imagine?? or it is beyond the context of our brain??
it is assumed that the things in this world never exceed one google.. nope.. not the google.com  

one google is the number 1 x 10^99

if
you walk from north pole to south pole and your step,
you count all the leafs on the world
the number of sands on the world
and so on....
each of the number never really exceeds one google.....
that is why the scientific calculator we use has the limit of one google........

what about the universe?? well, in that case, it is never exceed one googleplex
googleplex???
it is      
                ^ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
1 x 10

that is 10 to the power of one billion billion.......
if you walk from begining to the end of universe, the number never exceed one googleplex.....
if any number exceed tat, is it considered as infinity????

imagine this scenario...........
there are this planet... which the size is infinity..... the planet has a hotel that has infinity rooms.... one day
the hotel is full.. and there is one human from earth.... the earthling visitor want to stay in that
hotel.....
what can the hotel manager do???



the solution provided by the book that i had read is that,
the manager ask the hotel guest that stays in odd number room to move back one room......... room 3 move to room 5; room 5 move to room7; room 7 move to room9.....................................................................................
but the hotel is full!!!!
well remember?? it is infinity......... so it is endless........
so, how much is actually INFINITY????

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Post time 27-3-2007 02:51 PM | Show all posts
i can see rotated number 8.
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 Author| Post time 27-3-2007 03:02 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 sedondon's post

that is the mathematical symbol for infinity.......... it is just a symbol.......
the real meaning is to understand it.......
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Post time 27-3-2007 04:05 PM | Show all posts
If we know acctually the value of infinity, so we dont call it infinity.
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 Author| Post time 27-3-2007 04:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 sedondon's post

nice one.......... but the question is.........
trying to quantify it.......................
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Post time 27-3-2007 04:26 PM | Show all posts
soalan bonus...

adakah kelajuan perjalanan Teleportasi infiniti...

[ Last edited by  johnconan at 27-3-2007 04:27 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 27-3-2007 05:57 PM | Show all posts

Reply #6 johnconan's post

teleport??
which method??? by encrypt human in atom and send it with light???

or wrap travel???
travel in another dimension

it is assumed that speed of light is the threshold of speed.....
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Post time 28-3-2007 12:38 AM | Show all posts
I think infinity is just a made up phrase: kalau terlalu banyak sampai malas nak kira tu infinty lah namanya.
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Post time 28-3-2007 10:37 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 27-3-2007 05:57 PM
teleport??
which method??? by encrypt human in atom and send it with light???

or wrap travel???
travel in another dimension

it is assumed that speed of light is the threshold of speed.....
x kisahlah method mana, yg penting kelajuan...
adakah kelajuan perjalanan teleportasi bleh dianggap infiniti??
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Post time 28-3-2007 11:18 AM | Show all posts
infiniti adalah sama konsep dgn dua garis yg selari, jika dua garis itu akan bertemu, maknanya ia tak selari, begitu jugalah dgn infinity,
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Post time 28-3-2007 05:11 PM | Show all posts

hmm...

persoalan yg seronok nih....

sy juga nak mintak tuan thread bincang  satu persoalan lagi....

tentang angka terkecil sebelum sampai kosong.....

ia juga mcm infinity....contoh  =  

0.000000000000000000000000000001  x  10^ - 10000000000000000000000

boleh ye tuan thread.....?????
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2007 08:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ussopp at 28-3-2007 05:11 PM
persoalan yg seronok nih....

sy juga nak mintak tuan thread bincang  satu persoalan lagi....

tentang angka terkecil sebelum sampai kosong.....

ia juga mcm infinity....contoh  =  

0.00 ...



ini pernah saya belajar dari math... tapi dah lupa..........  ni kene guna formula. ada formula,,,,,,, tapi dah lupe......
case ini boleh solve....

macam
infinity bahagi dengan zero..........
jawapan nye??  formula ape dah lupa.....
juga guna unuk solve zero bahagi zero.....

japapanye bukan undefined or infinity or wat

[ Last edited by  wei_loon5063 at 28-3-2007 10:33 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2007 08:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sedondon at 28-3-2007 11:18 AM
infiniti adalah sama konsep dgn dua garis yg selari, jika dua garis itu akan bertemu, maknanya ia tak selari, begitu jugalah dgn infinity,



ada kes yang garis selari bertemu dan segi tiga lebih dari 180 degrees

example.........
kamu berada di tepi saya dan berjalan....... direction kami selari kan?? kamu tak akan langgar saya kan?? apa kata kami jzlan sampai kutub
utara.... akan terlanggar tak??
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2007 10:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by keep88 at 28-3-2007 12:38 AM
I think infinity is just a made up phrase: kalau terlalu banyak sampai malas nak kira tu infinty lah namanya.



try to analyse it scientifically......
if newton just say the apple fall because it just fall la..... and not think scientifically, the world would not as the way we see it now......

"kalau terlalu banyak sampai malas "

malas?? orang ini rajin orang itu malas... jika rajin akan dapat nopmber infiniti???
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Post time 28-3-2007 10:38 PM | Show all posts
mungkin kah akan berakhir infinity ini
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2007 10:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #15 DDT_pacak85's post

good question........ to make thing easy, some mathematicians deemed that the number bigger than googleplex as infinity
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Post time 29-3-2007 12:47 AM | Show all posts
i have seen an article abt big numbers once,

10^100 = googol
10^googol = googleplex

..and if you open wordpad and try to write googleplex it will a century to write ..
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Post time 29-3-2007 05:34 PM | Show all posts

Reply #13 wei_loon5063's post

belum sampai kutub utara dah terlanggar dah, terlanggar tunggul kat depat....
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Post time 30-3-2007 08:10 AM | Show all posts


test lah

[ Last edited by  chiKenliTeL at 30-3-2007 09:11 AM ]
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 Author| Post time 2-4-2007 08:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #19 chiKenliTeL's post

test what????
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