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Post time 18-12-2008 07:25 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Congratulations to Commissioner Police of Sabah,

Is this the first time the PDRM organising a Seminar on Crimes Prevention?

Topics for resolution over two days 22 and 23 December, 2008 at
Auditorium Block A, Mini Federal Office, Jln UMS, Likas are
Crimes against women;   PTI, Crimes by youth and adolescents;
Property & personal crimes; Role of Media in crime prevention;
Illicit drugs crisis.

An opportunity not to be missed as it is of great public interests.

Joshua Kong
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 Author| Post time 19-12-2008 05:36 AM | Show all posts

must come

Justice (right orders of things)  for all Sabahans and non Sabahans...



lest we all become slaves.. in our homeland...

FREE on the compliment of PDRM for a noble cause...
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 Author| Post time 19-12-2008 03:27 PM | Show all posts

Royal Commission of Inquiry to come

PDRM must recommend strongly for a RCI now...
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 Author| Post time 20-12-2008 04:04 PM | Show all posts

the public for a strong show

PDRM is a good forum to resolve our long standing woes...
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Post time 21-12-2008 03:01 PM | Show all posts
One of the speakers would be SSY
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 Author| Post time 21-12-2008 04:10 PM | Show all posts

how do you know?

Originally posted by alphawolf at 21-12-2008 03:01 PM
One of the speakers would be SSY



A wolf,

you are SSY?
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 Author| Post time 22-12-2008 07:17 PM | Show all posts

Inaugural Seminar of 2 days on Crimes Prevention.

Dear friends,

The Police DiRaja Malaysia PDRM Sabah has successfully
organised an Inaugural Seminar over 2 days  on Crimes Prevention.

It is held today and continued tomorrow 23rd December 2008
at the Auditorium, Block A,  Pusat Kerajaan Persekutuan Sabah,
Jalan UMS, Likas.

Tomorrow it is starting at 8.15 am with two papers on
the Role of Media in Crime Prevention by the Sabah Commissioner of Police
and the Illicit drugs menace to be followed by workshops on all the six topics
including  Violence against women;   PTI,   Crimes by youth and adolescents;
Property & personal crimes which were delivered today.

The workshops would end with resolutions which the Police want to work with
the public for the better tomorrow.  Your contributions are welcome.

The seminar is FREE and open to anyone who can just walk in and
register yourself.

So this is your chance to speak on some of your favourite items at the workshops
and the resolutions for three hours.  It is in English and Bahasa Malaysia.

The 4 papers delivered today are of good quality.

There are seats for another two hundred persons.
All are welcome.

It will end with the closing ceremony by the Chief Minister of Sabah at 4 pm.

So see you there.


Joshua Kong
Deputy President of CASH.
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2008 07:50 AM | Show all posts

worthy event..

I have learned much over two days..

You think you do not miss anything...


the system needs changes with the help of the consumers and the people..


so why avoid this opportunity ,... the first one of its kind...


I was awarded the best participant... and chaired the 5th group....
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2008 07:58 AM | Show all posts

this is a good one from the Seminar

December 22, 2008 15:43 PM     

Police Probe Malaysian Passports Being Misused Abroad


KOTA KINABALU, Dec 22 (Bernama) -- Police are cooperating with immigration authorities and Interpol to investigate Malaysian passports being misused by irresponsible persons or elements, including terrorists.

Deputy Inspector-General of Police (IGP), Tan Sri Ismail Omar, said the matter was found out by IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan during an Interpol conference in Russia recently and this had marred Malaysia's image.

Interpol is the world's largest international police organization

"In that recent Interpol conference, they brought up (that) quite a number of Malaysian passports are found to be used by irresponsible people in other parts of the world.

"So we are looking into that .. Who are the people, if local syndicates are cooperating with international syndicates, what are they doing, what is the objective of the misuse of passports, and how many are actually involved," Ismail told reporters after officiating a crime prevention seminar here today organised by the Sabah police contingent.

He said if the matter was not taken care of it will give an impression that there are many syndicates in Malaysia that are out of control.

Asked if passports involved were genuine, Ismail said: "We don't have the details.. We are working with Interpol to get more accurate data, how many are genuine and how many may be false."

Earlier in his speech, he said progress in information technology, which has made the world a borderless one, has made crime fighting more challenging, whereby criminals and their henchmen could communicate very quickly and thereby hamper law enforcement efforts.

Meanwhile, asked about crime statistics for this year, Ismail said crime was still under control in that the rise in recorded cases was just above two per cent given the rise in population.

He said a "smart partnership" was needed among police, other law enforcement agencies, non-governmental organisations and the public to prevent and fight crime.

Besides that, he said, the strength of the police force would be increased from 100,000 personnel to 150,000 personnel by 2011.

"The number has to be increased to reduce the population to police personnel ratio. For example, in Petaling Jaya, the ratio is one policeman to a few thousands of population ... This is considered high so it has to be reduced," he added.

-- BERNAMA
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2008 08:15 AM | Show all posts

1st additional comments... (1st part)

more to come

PAPER 7 FOR THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS AS GUIDELINES FOR RESOLUTIONS
By Joshua Y. C. Kong



Some thoughts for the formulation of the resolutions in the workshops
        This is my own views although I am deputy President of CASH as nothing has been discussed at CASH but every one is a consumer and also stakeholder in society where crimes and crimes prevention or personal safety are our concern in our daily living.
        As it is not possible for me in all the six workshops today where resolutions made are likely to be applied in policing the society and the Police themselves, I would like the people in such workshops to consider the points raised by me here.
        I would be in the PTI workshop as it is the mother of all our problems in Sabah and the nation and we (the local and the immigrants - legal or otherwise) cannot survive into the next few decades unless we address the most important factor in our society today.  The crime rates and the trend of that have been impacted by the presence of millions of illegal in Sabah beyond the control of the enforcement agencies like the Police, the armed forces, the Immigration Department, the National Registration Department.  The ground swell of such illegal people has undeniable impacted all the social, political, economical, spiritual and physical developments in Sabah - the balance sheet concept.
        Crimes are also increasing due to globalisation but the scenario in Sabah is mainly due to the abuses of such illegal people aided by our own leaders in the country in ways already known since 1963.
        The urgency of corrective measures cannot be emphasized now as it is in 2008 after 45 years that we want to sort of undo the damages and do some damage control now after tolerating the crisis for so long.
        Like many words are misconstrued or misinterpreted or misunderstood, this word "Justice" is also understood in various context.  So in one earth or one world, there can only one concept of JUSTICE for one mankind race.  But we do assume that there are a variety of applications of justice depending on the various division in race and religion in our midst..  
        So Justice is actually simply the right order of things.  When we talk of basic human rights, justice is for all irrespective of whether we are local or illegal people.  When we want to implement justice, it would mean that everyone would be given the right order of things within our own boundaries as independent nations and the interests of the illegal people would also be considered accordingly.
        I did learn a few new things in the four quality papers delivered on the first day  hence this stir me up to present this paper as I already dominated the floor with some questions and many questions not even given any chance to be heard.
        The Minister in the Prime Minister Department - Datuk Seri Hamidi .wants discussion on religions in closed door forums, I can only do this now in this paper (limited circulation) for consideration.

Topic 1- Violence against Women, Children.
Offenders are getting younger and the victims are also younger mean that something is wrong with system. Would new laws with impossible enforcement as most of things happen in closed door of families or premises be effective in the regulation of behaviour wayward or otherwise?  Such crimes or social ills are costly emotional and socially, while justice for the victims and the society at large is even more expensive when the scale of occurrence is high.  How long and how much can society afford such development when the victims (in shelter) and the offenders (in long term detention) need to be rehabilitated?

Topic 2 - PTI
This paper is very informative and we need to bring to focus some of the issues not dealt with in that paper in various pressing duties of the immigration department since 1963.
1.        While the Immigration Department is responsible for the issue of passports, there are some important issues like 1 year passport to questioned people with MyKad and voters,  and the Immigration Department does not publish annual statistics on the travel documents issued although the Immigration Department publish the data on the arrival and departure.
2.        While the Immigration Department may only deport foreigners only after prosecution in the Courts - sometimes a long process - the Police and other enforcement agencies may have a different set of problems to handle including long detention.
3.        The data of arrivals and departure of Malaysian over 1994 - 2007 gives almost 1 million excess departure from  Sabah and yet Sabah remain excessively populated.  Such figures must be investigated in the context of identity cards, human trafficking and how such a big number of people have got their passports.
4.        The issues of PTI involve the coordination of the Immigration Department and the National Registration Department and it is not good for avoiding the issues.  Both these departments did not appear before the Parliament's Select Committee on Integrity set up in 2006 and is this report in the Parliament?  I also believe both departments did not want to answer the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) with impunity.  So we need to find ways to resolve the gap of this phenomenon.
5.        I also believe that the records of IMM13 are inadequate in the Immigration Department as far as the numbers of such cards holder are concerned.  IMM13 was meant to be for two years in the early 1970s initially but now it is still enforced in 2008.
6.        The GREEN card maybe got nothing to do with the Immigration Department but offenders of Immigration Laws may still be issued such cards - any system in place as a check and balance?
7.        What kind of cards is issued to those illegals who are now regulated by the employers since August 2008?  Is this done purely by the Immigration Department or some of them already holders of project IC as some of them could be here for a long time already?
8.        The question of foreign maids was brought up in topic 1 and considered more appropriate to be asked in topic 2, but would the Immigration Department really want to answer this issue?  We need to review this matter of the maids in Sabah.
9.        Maybe this is a question for the NRD over the 5 million excessive MyKad issued, but such MyKad holders would be entitled to passports on demand.  Malaysia has an official population of 27 millions and more than 22 millions MyKad already issued given rise to those under 12 years old also given MyKad.  Who would scrutinise this issue?
10.        The issue of Royal Commission of Inquiry on project IC and citizenship has been delayed by passing the bucks, and if the relevant departments  already faced with many challenges including expensive handling of illegals and deporting them do not recommend to the Government for further action, who would and politicians depend on facts and figures from the respective departments which are not transparent.   Changing figures are always given in Parliament.
11.        Our Federal Constitution has been bypassed in the PTI debacle and Project IC.
(The Police need to get the Immigration Department  and the National Registration Department together to trash out the problems - mother of all woes - in another public forum).

Topic 3 - Youth and crimes in schools
1.        This is the first time, I learn of the high rate of crimes by the Malay sector nationwide.  As the future leaders come from the youth, how would we address and arrest this social ills going into the next phase of life in society?  While we may study and review all the laws even for the young ones, (as we know laws can be ineffective sometimes especially when such laws do not deal with youth), we have to address the day a child is born in family upbringing and then nurtured in pre-schools, kindergarten and schools of 12-14 years.  We must also deal with all the attitudes that make a person -  peers, environment, religion, race, culture, when there can be unjust laws around.  We are what we consume.  We can go on into the denial mode in certain areas including corruption but for how long?  The issues I raised in Q & A over the system (role of educators and parents vis-a-vis society)  and the mentality framework for this group is relevant and it is a good thing that there is public forum by 15 learned professors on 6th and 7th January, 2009 in Peninsula Malaysia on the Ketuanan Melayu.
2.        This issue of the influence of adults using children in the commission of crimes and organised crimes as children are outside the jurisdiction of the punitive laws for adults must be addressed.  I think this is public knowledge in the rotten system.

(more to come)
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2008 08:16 AM | Show all posts

here is the rest and more to come

Topic 4        Crimes against properties
1.        While crimes against properties seen and unseen are regularly occurring in society and much of that not reported in the newspapers, and I can only conclude that local people of Sabah are very restricted in their moments after sunset while their homes are  highly secured like a home prison  with or without guard dogs.  Many open areas of nightlife are dominated by illegal and local have to avoid those areas.  When night life is restricted, the local people may lose out in their earning opportunities or take extraordinary care or caution over their properties and their lives, and don't tell me it is a price for development or disarray in Sabah.
2.        Would the Police give a right number of personnel to combat crimes 24/7 in Sabah?  It is understood that the Police in Penampang and other towns may be over stretched with a very thin coverage.
3.        Is it true that the criteria for more Police personnel is due to the rising crimes especially serious crimes? If that is true somehow,  then we need to help society and Police to combat crimes, but how best we can do that without undue alarm to the local (already in apprehensive scenario from food and fuel prices upheaval) and visitors (to be happy to spend their money here) alike.
General views for more thoughts:-
        This is a global scenario as the past, present and future are connected and our welfare and well being can only be sustained if we give some thoughts on this.
        The economy with politics has got everything to do with crimes in the survival context in the world.  Many nations in the world have high proportion of aging population and Malaysia is also going that way like in a cycle.  Malaysia is distorted by the presence of illegal immigrants especially the Sabah's demography changing unpredictably.
        Some nations may have a very high proportion of workers in retirement - some with pension and many without pension.  Malaysian case needs to be assessed in term of sustainability and maintenance of such scenario.
        If we look at the Sabah case and possible also for the Malaysian, we have a rather high level of civil servants including those in privatised corporation or Government linked companies also performing the public functions.  
        How many civil servants were there in Sabah in 1963 when we had a population of 454,000?  Now how many civil servants do we have in Sabah when our already high population is less than 4 million.  While the population has increased by less than 10 times and I think the number of civil servants and those in privatised industries (former Government duties), have increased many hundred times over.
        We need a Think Tank to prepare a paper on this and many meanwhile may justify this scenario by reason of the economy and associated developments in the State.  Crimes - be it white, blue or any colour - as part and parcel of our existence can be spoiler in our midst as we especially the Police have to deal with them whether we like that or not.
        Take another example, how many teachers were there in 1963  - not many then. Now there is a teaching staff of about 30,000 not commensurate with the population growth.
        Coupled with an aging population of greater proportion, how would the economy in 2020 sustain the needs of pension and living expenses and it is our responsibilities that we plan for such eventuality in the context of the trend of crimes to be.   I don't know how many Police personnel were there in 1963 and today we have 7,000.  How many more can we afford if we need to handle increasing crimes especially serious crimes as we have in the world today.  Similarly, we need more personnel in private security, the armed forces and the enforcement agencies and where would all this lead to if we let crimes of all sort take roots in our land.  Can any land with dwindling resources meet all the liabilities now and the days ahead?  So it is timely that we address all the relevant issues now without any further delay for whatever including political expediency or political doom
        So today Topics 5 and 6 are equally important as crimes and social ills are inseparable and need to be exposed accordingly.

The Police Di Raja Malaysia should be congratulated for this inaugural Seminar of 2 days with the fruit to come if only the people and NGOs compliments with this effort.

I pray that the resolutions today would bring to bear all those involved in managing the nation and that Justice or true/right orders of thing would the focus.

I trust my views would be considered.


Joshua Kong    23rd December 2008
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Post time 24-12-2008 09:17 PM | Show all posts

Balas #11 13Friday\ catat

what will happen to SSY after this convention ?
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2008 10:46 PM | Show all posts

ask the Police

Originally posted by tangopapa at 24-12-2008 09:17 PM
what will happen to SSY after this convention ?




let them handlle it soon...


gangsterism in the rise of 200%...
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