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Reply to #99 Obersliutenant's post
- you think i do not know that ?
- people based governance, yep thats socialism, im a socialist.. but such
- a scenario doesnt quite reflect Malaysia, im just comparing the
- situation of other countries and ours where minorities are pretty much
- restrained there, but what about you ? do you respect the customs of
- other people? im sure you complained that you had to 'tolerate' our
- laws that allow muslims to 'jam' the streets during friday prayers and
- using speakers to send the azan ..why can yourespect that , if youre in
- another place or lets say you minorities like you. why can they respect
- the laws and customs of other countries rather than ours ?
Copy the Code
That is because they do not have represetatio in parliment. In India Muslims are minorities but they have equal rights as any and mind you the President of India is a Muslim. Do not speak of immigrants who are not even the first generation yet which comon sense would tell you that they have do with what is given to them. You are a making your own story without even understanding what I said. It is clear you are out to provoke the sentiment fo your Muslims friends here. I repeat hee what I said earlier. Muslims like MENJ and others had complained that it is a nuisance during the Thaipusam festival where others have difficulty as the roads are blocked. To this I pointed out that it only happens once a year but we are tolerating it every week on Fridays all throughout. So if we can tolerate so can you. Do you understand this or you need a feeding bottle to stop your crying? So, next time do not ask stupid questions and be smart in your approach to proof that you have brains.
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Reply #101 barney50's post
Do you understand this or you need a feeding bottle to stop your crying? So, next time do not ask stupid questions and be smart in your approach to proof that you have brains
you know what.. you gotta start to act more sensibly if you want to make a convincing argument, i was well supportive of most of the paragraph untill i reached this line. |
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Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 26-3-2007 10:54 PM
Do you understand this or you need a feeding bottle to stop your crying? So, next time do not ask stupid questions and be smart in your approach to proof that you have brains
you know what.. ...
Biasa lah tu merapu tak tentu pasal
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dah adat masuk negeri orang..kena jaga budi bahasa tatatertib..! takkan itu pun tak tau...sodar diri tu sikit....lain la kalau ekau dah turun temurun ada kat sini...ekau keno paham,aproses asimilasi bukannya setahun duo... |
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i believe salam03 was right..i once read it in a book..a friend of mine own it..that book is from our university where students from arabic school or religious school must study and do research about other religions other than islam but i'm only from an ordinary school,so i just have to take "understanding islam" subject..so in my friend's book,it is said that hindus had somehow mentioned in their holy books related to prophet Muhammad.. |
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for obersliutenant.. this is an islamic country..and don't you learn history of malaysia that you're not allowed to question any of the laws about the power or authorities given to malay..i mean hak-hak istimewa org melayu.. islam sbg agama rasmi.. you have no rights to complain.it is so lucky of u and other races that we,malay,let u to live in here..have u noticed that,is there any malays in india?or in china? look at indians in their own country,how poverty is spreading rampantly..indians here live happily and some of them is very rich..look at china,communism..communist took all their wealth and they are not allowed to keep their own savings..malaysian government is not that bad and you're still given your rights to own things..so keep your mouth shut about questioning why azan can be send loud..etc.. |
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for obersliutenant.. this is an islamic country..and don't you learn history of malaysia that you're not allowed to question any of the laws about the power or authorities given to malay..i mean hak-hak istimewa org melayu.. islam sbg agama rasmi.. you have no rights to complain.it is so lucky of u and other races that we,malay,let u to live in here..have u noticed that,is there any malays in india?or in china? look at indians in their own country,how poverty is spreading rampantly..indians here live happily and some of them is very rich..look at china,communism..communist took all their wealth and they are not allowed to keep their own savings..malaysian government is not that bad and you're still given your rights to own things..so keep your mouth shut about questioning why azan can be send loud..etc
Dear Pearl,
To begin with, i am Malay and im Muslim , and i think youve mistaken your judgement, i did not question why the azan can be sent aloud and such...i was trying to make barney understand that being in Malaysia with a country of diverse cultures and religion, we have to understand and make compromises for one and other , each others beliefs. And Where Did i ever question that Islam being the official religion? please show me?
If compared in light of fair and rational scrutiny , i do believe that n islamic form of governance manages to fulfill this test. However, i beg to differ dear pearl, that you claim that we are not allowed to question the government, in that sense, i strongly disagree, we are entitled to rights especially freedom of speech .. however i support the view that freedom of speech should only be granted to those with fair and Truth comment. Where is truth if youre not allowed to question ? To this additon , socialism has many branches dear friend, not just communism and btw, i am in complete disagreement with communism in many aspects.
... and when we make mistakes dont we need someone to tell us that we went astray and guide us to right path? likewise, sometimes leaders too make mistakes, should we not do the favour in guiding them if certain policies are not working? isnt that our responsibility and right as the rakyat ? This is democracy Pearl, welcome to the 21st century..
And please be more polite in your manner of discussing. Thank you
Wasalam..
[ Last edited by Obersliutenant at 5-6-2007 01:06 AM ] |
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Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 5-6-2007 12:55 AM
If compared in light of fair and rational scrutiny , i do believe that n islamic form of governance manages to fulfill this test. However, i beg to differ dear pearl, that you claim that we are not allowed to question the government, in that sense, i strongly disagree, we are entitled to rights especially freedom of speech .. however i support the view that freedom of speech should only be granted to those with fair and Truth comment. Where is truth if youre not allowed to question ? To this additon , socialism has many branches dear friend, not just communism and btw, i am in complete disagreement with communism in many aspects.
... and when we make mistakes dont we need someone to tell us that we went astray and guide us to right path? likewise, sometimes leaders too make mistakes, should we not do the favour in guiding them if certain policies are not working? isnt that our responsibility and right as the rakyat ? This is democracy Pearl, welcome to the 21st century..
And please be more polite in your manner of discussing. Thank you
Wasalam..
Sadhu sadhu sadhu..........
(excellent.. well said, well put we agree)
The malaysia mentality is tainted by the greedy government ideology.
Glad to see a malay muslims who see this.
I dislike the corrupted malay muslim leader;
but I do not go to nasi kandar stall scolding any malays as they are totally different from the leaders |
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Originally posted by ms_pearl at 4-6-2007 07:56 PM
i believe salam03 was right..i once read it in a book..a friend of mine own it..that book is from our university where students from arabic school or religious school must study and do research a ...
Jangan mengarut. FAHAM? :no:
Muhammad tak pernah di sebut dimana2 tempat ataupun kitab agama Hindu (Buddha, Bible ataupun Old Testament). Dan Islam tak ada kena mengena dgn agama2 (yg disebut di atas).
Agama kamu itu agama kamu. Jangan nak campur-adukan agama kami dgn agama kamu. :no: |
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