Gadis Islam bawah umur disewa

totokreturn

syukur bangsa arab masih memberi sewa gadis arab nih berbangsa negara ISLAM terkemuka dunia mallaysia yg budak bawah umur bagi pree of charge jerk....

Yang_Berhormat

percaya la sangat dengan berita yang nak memburukkan orang Salafi dan muslim secara amnya.....sekadar berita....bukti tak ada....umpama bercakap sambil menyembur air liur basi.....

Yang_Berhormat

artikel dan berita dari longkang atau tong sampah mana sekalipun...hanya suka dikutip oleh penggemar barangan kotor dan terbuang.....

Lejen

chazey posted on 12-8-2013 09:04 PM
lain lak aku nampak;

ada link missing Christian girls bla bla bla

thanks for the news.

Nanti ada yang kata Salafi ni musti bukan Islam.

Lejen

kakikuDibibirmu posted on 12-8-2013 04:03 PM
usahkan nak tunggu puluhan tahun kak, sedangkan sudah 1400 tahun ugama mureka dipersoalkan pun mur ...

Mungkin depa (isle) ni akan melalui macam kristian sekarang di mana kristian open kepada kritikan walaupun ada sesetengah daripada mereka ada yang mental pprt.

kalau kita persoal isle ni kita terus jatuh murtad barangkali

Lejen

AdamBillionaire posted on 12-8-2013 03:40 PM
kau ni doctor ke cai?

atau pak ustaz? aku ni biasa2 je kerja berniaga.

Aku tak tau la kita mesti jadi doktor atau saintis untuk belajar sains dan memahami sains.

Kalau macam tu semua budak sekolah di malaysia ni kena jadi doktor / saintis dulu sebelum nak ajar orang lain pasal sains

Kalau kau rasa sumber aku tu salah, kau perbetulkan lah bukan dengan melalak bukit yang kata itu salah ini salah

kalau kau rasa alquran tu salah bengong? kenapa nabi pesan pegang dua pekara? alquran dan hadis kalau nk selamat dunia akhirat?

kalau kita nampak ada kesilapan dalam Al Quran tu dan Hadith, hanya ada 3 kemungkinan yang ada.

1. Tuhan salah
2. Nabi salah
3. pengumpul / penulis Al Quran salah.

Terpulang kepada hang nak pegang yang mana satu.

Btw, hang tau ke tak cara pengumpulan Al Quran dan bila Al Quran dibukukan? Tahu tak bahawa sesetengah Al Quran pernah dibakar?

Al Quran tidak pernah dibukukan semasa Nabi ada. Ini adalah fakta sejarah.

takkan sesat umat ku selagi berpegang al quran dan hadis? jadi kau nak cakap rasulullah s.a.w. penipu? sedangkan para sahabat, arab jahiliah sendiri mengaku nabi seorang yang paling jujur! kalau di katakan ada emas di sebelah bukit uhud sekali pun orang arab tetap percaya!

hakikatnya tiada siapa manusia modern yang hidup pada zaman ni wujud dan berlaku pada zaman tu. itulah beza antara manusia yang berfikir dan percaya bertaklid buta.

tp kau? baru sikit dengar istilah2 saintifik dan kena kencing bulat2 duk percaya 100% sains.. haktuih lah kau. kitab sains kau tu bukan dpt selamatkan kau kat akhirat nanti..

baru dengar? ini dah dikaji oleh saintis ribuan tahun tentang asal usul semen dan sperm manusia. ia memang dalam bidang sains. aku tak kata sains tu perfect, tapi agama yang kata agama tu perfect walaupun fakta menunjukkan sebaliknya.

sesuatu yang lucu bila benda yang nyata memang wujud depan mata kita kata kena kencing, tapi sesuatu yang kita tak nampak depan mata macam akhirat tak pula dikatakan kencing.

kebenaran tu dalam islam.  kisah kejadian manusia dari air mani, seketul daging, tulang apa semua. ada saintis dpt jawab masa zaman arab? semua cakap penipu.. semua ckp membohong. abad ke berapa baru jumpa penemuan kejadian manusia dari setitis air mani?

ini adalah penipuan yang berterusan yang aku kata sebelum ni. hakikatnya embriology manusia sudah ada sebelum al quran muncul lagi. dan lagi pula fakta kejadian manusia dalam al quran tidak betul.

kebenaran tu perlu merujuk sains. agama yang ada belum tentu kebenarannya.

apa kau nk jawab? mana saintis zaman rasulullah kau banggakan tu? mana saintis anugerah nobel? kenapa tak boleh jawab? kenapa tak boleh rungkaikan kejadian bumi dan alam semesta? kenapa tak boleh jawab mana terletaknye nyawa manusia? kenapa?

see above.

btw, saintis telah pun rungkai kejadian alam semesta dalam pelbagai fakta dan teori. aku tak pasti hang ni belajar sains atau tidak.

ada benda dalam hidup boleh di kaji, ada benda belum terbuka ilmu untuk dikaji, semua dengan izin ALLAH. kalau tak tentu saintis2 caprut kau banggakan dah boleh bg fakta tentang kejadian air mani pada zaman babylon.. haha. tp syg zaman babylon saintis kau banggakan tu  tak pandai  ilmu sains lg..

tak. semua ilmu tu dikaji selari dengan proses perkembangan teknologi dan ilmu manusia. ia tiada kena mengena dengan tuhan. limitation itu terletak pada otak manusia atau awareness.

aku tak pernah kaitkan air mani dengan zaman babylon. yang aku kata zaman babylon tu adalah asal usul algebra. aku tak tahu apa yang kau merapu tak tentu pasal.

aku nak soal kau, mana terletaknye roh manusia dalam anggota tubuh badan? di jantung? di otak? atau di mana saja? ada orang sakit jantung tp tak mati, ada orang sakit otak masih bernyawa. cuba jawab?

soalan cliche. "sakit" tidak bermaksud paralysed. "sakit" masih mungkin berfungsi cuma bukan pada best condition. aku sakit perut bukan bermakna perut aku tak boleh digunakan.

pasal roh / soul yang kau nak tahu dari perspektif sains. boleh rujuk sini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Science

lg satu nak tanya, kau ni belajar tak rukun IMAN? ada 6 pekara? apa dia rukun iman? kalau tak tahu belajar. kalau kau beriman dengan rukun iman kenapa kau boleh pertikaikan kebenaran alquran? as sunnah? adakah kau puak2 pulau pinang people yang anti hadis atau pun syiah caprut?

rukun iman secara asasnya adalah PERCAYA. oleh sebab itu, percaya adalah sesuatu yang kita kena percaya walaupun tanpa bukti fizikal dan sains. syiah pun ada rukun depa yang tersendiri.

soalan yang lebih relevan adalah darimana asalnya rukun iman?

harap kawan2 dalam forum berhati hati dengan manusia begini. golongan yang jadikan ilmu LOGIK AKAL sebagai asas pegangnagn HIDUP. bukan jadikan kepercayaan rukun iman dan islam sebagai pegangan hidup. golongan yang rasa bijak pandai..

"rasa" bijak pandai adalah statement yang tidak berpijak kepada reality. ramai bijak pandai adalah agnostik / atheist. ada orang jadikan fantasi sebagai pegangan hidup. ada orang jadikan fakta dan reality sebagai pegangan hidup.

nak ubat HIV pun tak mampu ada hati nak puji saintis caprut.. kesian..

ada beza antara tak mampu dengan BELUM MAMPU. sains adalah sesuatu yang progresif.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/11/analysts-cautious-toward-hiv-solution/?page=all

btw, agama pun tak dapat ubat HIV.

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 10:50 AM
Aku tak tau la kita mesti jadi doktor atau saintis untuk belajar sains dan memahami sains.

Kala ...

siapa kata agama tak dapat ubat hiv?

agama ajar jgn berzina jgn isap dadah? siapa suruh buat penyakit? padan muka..

aku harap kau kalau mati esok kena seksa api neraka..

kau ni mmg syiah golongan sesat. sembah saintis..

pengumpulah alquran dilakukan oleh golongan2 tahfiz. mereka hafal. para sahabat duduk bersama nabi. hafal bersama..

aku harap kau nanti mati di seksa. wish good luck bro..aku orang islam, aku bangga hidup sebagai orang islam. dan aku percaya ALLAH maha berkuasa ke atas sesuatu..

hanya orang bodoh sahaja mengingkar perintah tuhan dan merasa dirinya pandai. kesian mak ayah kau. tentu mak ayah kau ni kafir laknatullah kan? tak pe . aku faham..

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 10:50 AM
Aku tak tau la kita mesti jadi doktor atau saintis untuk belajar sains dan memahami sains.

Kala ...

bodo. kalau kau rasa saintis power kenapa zaman babylon tak de kajian pasal air mani? tentu saintis2 kau bodo2 belaka ? kan? hanya mampu kaji algebra sahaja? betul ke?

oh kesian saintis2 kau masa tu kurap seperti anjing.. sampai zaman babylon hancur..

AdamBillionaire

http://sabksmasra.bpi.edu.my/sud ... ns-didalam-al-quran

mohon rakan2 jgn terpedaya dengan golongan perosak akidah. penyembah sains.

hanya kerana kebodohan mereka, maka mereka kata alquran itu salah.  walhal zaman nabi dulu? ramai juga orang arab kata nabi gila menyampaikan ajaran islam, menyampaikan ilmu2 kebenaran. tp hakikatnye bila sampai zaman teknologi sains ni ramai saintis ngaku kebenaran al quran.

AdamBillionaire

aku doakan lejen moga kau mati diseksa dalam api neraka. sungguh hina kau di dunia ni. al quran pun kau berani lawan..

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 10:50 AM
Aku tak tau la kita mesti jadi doktor atau saintis untuk belajar sains dan memahami sains.

Kala ...

embriology? embriology?

apa manusia dicipta dari beruk? lepas tu evolusi? alahai teori sains lg mengarut. teori darwin? oh lupa darwin tu bapak kau. bapak sains kau kan?


After 1827[edit source | editbeta]

8-9 weeks human embryo

Karl Ernst von Baer and Heinz Christian Pander proposed the germ layer theory of development; von Baer discovered the mammalian ovum in 1827.[3][4][5] Modern embryological pioneers include Charles Darwin, Ernst Haeckel, J.B.S. Haldane, and Joseph Needham. Other important contributors include William Harvey, Kaspar Friedrich Wolff, Heinz Christian Pander, August Weismann, Gavin de Beer, Ernest Everett Just, and Edward B. Lewis.

After 1950[edit source | editbeta]

After the 1950s, with the DNA helical structure being unravelled and the increasing knowledge in the field of molecular biology, developmental biology emerged as a field of study which attempts to correlate the genes with morphological change, and so tries to determine which genes are responsible for each morphological change that takes place in an embryo, and how these genes are regulated.

Vertebrate and invertebrate embryology[edit source | editbeta]

Many principles of embryology apply to invertebrates as well as to vertebrates.[6] Therefore, the study of invertebrate embryology has advanced the study of vertebrate embryology. However, there are many differences as well. For example, numerous invertebrate species release a larva before development is complete; at the end of the larval period, an animal for the first time comes to resemble an adult similar to its parent or parents. Although invertebrate embryology is similar in some ways for different invertebrate animals, there are also countless variations. For instance, while spiders proceed directly from egg to adult form many insects develop through at least one larval stage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ernst_von_Baer


aku lupa kau ni bodo, sebab teori ni di cipta di kaji bermula pada tahun 1827. sedangkan teori sebenar telah di bukukan dalam alquran

Pada hari Isnin, 13 Rabiul-Awal tahun ka 11 Hijrah, bersamaan 8 Jun 632 Masihi tarikh nabi wafat.

sekarang tarikh hari ni ialah 6 syawal 1434. kiranye dh 1400 tahun lepas ilmu2 kewujudan manusia telah diturunkan..


takpe , aku faham golongan mcm kau ni adalah golongan jahiliah yang sombong di muka bumi ALLAH..

lompatikam

Lejen posted on 12-8-2013 03:09 PM
Sebab aku kaji Al Quran lah aku boleh kata ada banyak saintifik error dan mathematical error dalam ...

maaf mencelah...

mmg sains dan islam bercanggah. bukan islam sahaja tapi agama lain jua. tapi nak tanya mcm mana kita nak sure yg sains itu benar?

most of saintis memberi hipotesis berdasarkan fahaman dia dan berdasarkan andaian dia.

cth:
1. bima sakti berbentuk spiral...mcm mana dia tahu? ada sape2 penah keluar dari bima sakti dan tgk dari luar?
2. dinosour takde bulu, bentuk tangan kecik? sape yg penah tgk real dinosour?

dlm surah asy sham, takde pun sebut matahari mengililingi bumi? yg disebut adalah

"Demi mahari dan sinarnya yg terang benderang. dan bulan mengiringi."

dlm surah yassin

"Dan matahari itu berjalan (bergerak) di tempat ketetapan baginya, yang demikian itu ketetapan Allah Yang Maha Gagah dan Maha Mengetahui"     Yaasin : 38

surah Al-Anbiyaa: ayat 33

“Dan Dialah (Tuhan) yang telah menjadikan malam dan siang, serta matahari dan bulan; tiap-tiap satunya beredar *terapung-apung di tempat edaran masing-masing (di angkasa lepas).”

mmg takde dlm quran ckp matahri mengililingi bumi. tang mana errornya?

manusia sejak zaman dahulu sebelum masihi percaya yg bumi ini satu hamparan mendatar. bulan dan matahri berputar.  teori ini asal dari zaman yunani lagi. malahan org yg mengandaikan bumi ini bulat, dan mengelilingi matahari dianggap gila. jadi tolong jgn kata islam atau Al-quran yg buat andaian ini.

kenapa setiap kali ada yg bercanggah nak tgk islam yg salah? awat tak tgk old testement dan bible jugak?

Lejen

AdamBillionaire posted on 13-8-2013 11:31 AM
bodo. kalau kau rasa saintis power kenapa zaman babylon tak de kajian pasal air mani? tentu  ...

kajian sains mestilah berperingkat. takkan nak kaji pasal sesuatu yang advance bila basic kita belum tahu?

zaman babylon hancur pun depa asalnya kita pakai algebra sekarang ni.

jangan marah hanya kerana perbezaan pendapat

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 03:04 PM
kajian sains mestilah berperingkat. takkan nak kaji pasal sesuatu yang advance bila basic kita bel ...

sebab tu saintis kau bodoh.

ni bukan masalah beza pendapat. ni masalah kau hina kitab aku. kau hina islam. kau hina alquran. jelas betapa bodohnya kau dan saintis zaman babylon kau tu.

dalam alquran dah jelaskan tentang air mani. tp saintis kau banggakan tu tak mampu berfikir ke?


cuba jawab teori evolusi darwin? manusia daripada monyet? apa aku nak percaya teori kepala bapak kau darwin tu? dari pendapat berbagai bagai saintis kononnya manusia daripada monyet? beruk?

aku manusia umat mulia daripada binatang. tak seperti kau asal usul monyet. ikut kepala monyet.

betapa jelas nya kelemahan saintis sampai kejadian manusia pun di katakan daripada monyet. sampai kan teori air mani pada zaman babylon pun tak dapat di rungkaikan..

kesimpulannye sains ada had nye dalam kajian. ada proses perkembangannya sebab saintis ni bodo2 belaka otak jumud tolak  kebenaran.. saintis ni keturunan monyet darwin. sebab tu bebal2 belaka..

Lejen

AdamBillionaire posted on 13-8-2013 11:30 AM
siapa kata agama tak dapat ubat hiv?

agama ajar jgn berzina jgn isap dadah? siapa suruh b ...

siapa kata agama tak dapat ubat hiv?

agama ajar jgn berzina jgn isap dadah? siapa suruh buat penyakit? padan muka..

aku harap kau kalau mati esok kena seksa api neraka..

kau ni mmg syiah golongan sesat. sembah saintis..

agama memberi pencegahan dan pencegahan tak sama dengan ubat.

aku bukan syiah pun, syiah adalah golongan dari agama islam. dan mereka lebih utamakan ahlul bayt berbanding abu bakar, usman, umar

pengumpulah alquran dilakukan oleh golongan2 tahfiz. mereka hafal. para sahabat duduk bersama nabi. hafal bersama..

semasa nabi ada atau selepas nabi wafat?

bagaimana jika mereka salah hafal?

THE KORAN WAS NOT COLLECTED during the Prophet's lifetime; this is clearly stated by good authorities. Those who are enumerated as collectors can certainly have collected only a part, for otherwise there is no explanation of the great pains to which the three caliphs, Abu Bakr, 'Umar and 'Uthman, put themselves after Muhammad's death to produce the single official text of the Prophet's revelations.
The tradition of the first compilation in the reign of Abu Bakr is usually accepted without questioning, but an examination of the account quickly betrays certain contradictions. Thus, if the death of so many Muslims at al-Yamamah endangered the preservation of the text, why did Abu Bakr, after making his copy, practically conceal it, entrusting it to the guardianship of a woman? Hafsah's copy seems, in fact, to be an invention to justify the corrections of that subsequently compiled under 'Uthman. I allow, however, the probability that in the time of Abu Bakr and 'Umar, quite independently of the battle of al-Yamamah, a copy of the Koran was prepared at Medina, perhaps at 'Umar's suggestion, exactly as others were compiled in the provinces, those, namely, which were afterwards destroyed by order of 'Uthman. It may be that the copy in Medina had a better guarantee of authenticity; while the statement that in the text prepared by Abu Bakr and 'Umar no verse was accepted which was not authenticated by at least two witnesses, who declared that they had themselves heard it from the Prophet, leads us to suppose that already in the first Koranic compilation other verses were suppressed which had not the required support.
If this statement can be accepted as authentic, it would indicate - as is perfectly natural and possible - that even while Muhammad lived, or at least immediately after his death, there were in circulation verses either apocryphal or erroneously attributed to the Prophet. It seems to me equally likely that in the texts made in the provinces (those, that is to say, that were destroyed by 'Uthman) there should have crept in apocryphal or insufficiently authenticated verses, or others which the Prophet and his most interested friends and Companions did not want to see preserved. Muslim traditionists for obvious reasons have tried to eliminate every kind of suspicion in this direction, for that would open an enormous field for dangerous insinuations and conjectures in countries so fertile in invention as the East. They try, accordingly, to make out that the divergences were solely in minutiae of the text or in single letters, so as not to compromise the text as it stands today or admit the existence of other verses either lost or suppressed. The small number of verses which tradition will allow to be doubtful seem to me little pieces of traditionist fraud, adduced to show the scrupulous exactness of the first compiler and the absolute security of the official text.

Sedikit sejarah tentang pengumpulan Al Quran, dibukukan oleh Ibn Warraq.

aku harap kau nanti mati di seksa. wish good luck bro..aku orang islam, aku bangga hidup sebagai orang islam. dan aku percaya ALLAH maha berkuasa ke atas sesuatu..

hanya orang bodoh sahaja mengingkar perintah tuhan dan merasa dirinya pandai. kesian mak ayah kau. tentu mak ayah kau ni kafir laknatullah kan? tak pe . aku faham..

no comment. saya tidak ingin berdebat jika anda seorang yang emosional.

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 03:13 PM
agama memberi pencegahan dan pencegahan tak sama dengan ubat.

aku bukan syiah pun, syiah adalah ...

nabi dah berpesan pegang al quran dan hadis untuk selamat dunia akhirat.

adakah nabi seorang penipu? salah satu mukjizat rasulullah adalah al quran. apakah kau nak sangkal lagi? oh lupa. kau ni golongan  ahli akedemik yang anti islam..

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 03:13 PM
agama memberi pencegahan dan pencegahan tak sama dengan ubat.

aku bukan syiah pun, syiah adalah ...

jawablah bodo.

bapak kau monyet ke? cuba tanya bapak kau saintis darwin tu? mana teori saintis asal usul manusia daripada monyet? beruk? atau pun gorilla?

mana teori saintis kau banggakan tu bodo?

lupa, kau ni lidah pembelit.. ambil sedikit fakta. lepas tu tak nak berhujah lain2 lg.. alahai. kalau dh anti islam akidah tak kuat ngaku jeklah. tak perlu munafik dalam forum..

asal usul manusia bukan daripada monyet cm teori bapak kau tu.. harap maklum. cuma kau seorang je monyet dalam forum keturunan saintis darwin

Lejen

AdamBillionaire posted on 13-8-2013 11:50 AM
embriology? embriology?

apa manusia dicipta dari beruk? lepas tu evolusi? alahai teori sa ...

embriology? embriology?

apa manusia dicipta dari beruk? lepas tu evolusi? alahai teori sains lg mengarut. teori darwin? oh lupa darwin tu bapak kau. bapak sains kau kan?

Pertama sekali, teori bukan fakta. teori adalah pendapat.

After 1827[edit source | editbeta]


8-9 weeks human embryo



Karl Ernst von Baer and Heinz Christian Pander proposed the germ layer theory of development; von Baer discovered the mammalian ovum in 1827.[3][4][5] Modern embryological pioneers include Charles Darwin, Ernst Haeckel, J.B.S. Haldane, and Joseph Needham. Other important contributors include William Harvey, Kaspar Friedrich Wolff, Heinz Christian Pander, August Weismann, Gavin de Beer, Ernest Everett Just, and Edward B. Lewis.
After 1950[edit source | editbeta]
After the 1950s, with the DNA helical structure being unravelled and the increasing knowledge in the field of molecular biology, developmental biology emerged as a field of study which attempts to correlate the genes with morphological change, and so tries to determine which genes are responsible for each morphological change that takes place in an embryo, and how these genes are regulated.
Vertebrate and invertebrate embryology[edit source | editbeta]
Many principles of embryology apply to invertebrates as well as to vertebrates.[6] Therefore, the study of invertebrate embryology has advanced the study of vertebrate embryology. However, there are many differences as well. For example, numerous invertebrate species release a larva before development is complete; at the end of the larval period, an animal for the first time comes to resemble an adult similar to its parent or parents. Although invertebrate embryology is similar in some ways for different invertebrate animals, there are also countless variations. For instance, while spiders proceed directly from egg to adult form many insects develop through at least one larval stage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ernst_von_Baer


aku lupa kau ni bodo, sebab teori ni di cipta di kaji bermula pada tahun 1827. sedangkan teori sebenar telah di bukukan dalam alquran

Teori yang hang tepek adalah "the germ layer theory of development". Keduanya pasal invertebrate dan vertebrate.

Tiada satu ayat pun dalam posting hang ni pasal HUMAN EMBRIOLOGY.

Dan proses embriology dalam Quran juga tidak tepat menurut modern human embriology.

Pada hari Isnin, 13 Rabiul-Awal tahun ka 11 Hijrah, bersamaan 8 Jun 632 Masihi tarikh nabi wafat.

sekarang tarikh hari ni ialah 6 syawal 1434. kiranye dh 1400 tahun lepas ilmu2 kewujudan manusia telah diturunkan..


takpe , aku faham golongan mcm kau ni adalah golongan jahiliah yang sombong di muka bumi ALLAH..  

Apa yang hang nak kata adalah sejarah embriology sebenarnya asal dari Al Quran bukan?

Sebenarnya sejarah itu tidak betul. Ni aku terangkan sejarah embriology yang sebenarnya.

"From the conjugation of blood and semen the embryo comes into existence. During the period favorable to conception, after the sexual intercourse, (it) becomes a Kalada (one-day-old embryo). After remaining seven nights it becomes a vesicle. After a fortnight it becomes a sperical mass. After a month it becomes a firm mass" (Garbha Upinandas - Hindu scriptures - 1416 BC)

Untuk lebih lanjut: http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1274/jmor.26.2?journalCode=jmor&

"Your hands formed me and made me - will you now absorb me? Remember that you formed me as if with clay - will you return me to dust? You poured me out like milk, and pulled me together like cheese. You clothed me with skin and flesh, and [inside me] did you interweave bones and sinews.(Book of Job - Judeo-Christian Text - 1000 BC)

Untuk lebih lanjut: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+10%3A8-11%2CJob+31%3A15&version=NIV

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."(Psalms (Judeo-Christian text) - 500 BC)

Untuk lebih lanjut: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+139%3A13-16&version=NIV

1st stage: "Sperm is a product which comes from the whole body of each parent, weak sperm coming from the weak parts, and strong sperm from the strong parts. Section 8, p 321.

2nd stage: "The seed (embryo), then, is contained in a membrane ... Moreover, it grows because of its mother's blood, which descends to the womb. For once a woman conceives, she ceases to menstruate..."Section 14, p. 326

3rd stage: "At this stage, with the descent and coagulation of the mother's blood, flesh begins to be formed, with the umbilicus. Section 14, p. 326

4th stage: "As the flesh grows it is formed into distinct members by breath ... The bones grow hard ... moreover they send out branches like a tree.  Section 17, p. 328

(Hippocrates, 460-370 BC)

"When the material secreted by the female in the uterus has been fixed by the semen of the male...the more solid part comes together, the liquid is separated off from it, and as the earthy parts solidify membranes form all around it...Some of these are called membranes and others choria..."[8] "So nature has first designed the two blood vessels from the heart, and from these smaller vessels branch off to the uterus, forming what is called the umbilicus...Round these is a skin-like integument, because the weakness of the vessels needs protection and shelter. The vessels join to the uterus like the roots of plants, and through them the embryo receives its nourishment"Aristotle, De Generatione Animalium, Book II, 740a28-740a35, as per Barnes, opere citato, p. 1149

(Aristotle, 384-322 BC)
"on the ninth day a few points of blood, on the eighteenth beating of the heart, on the twenty-seventh traces of the spinal cord and head". (Joseph Needham M. A., Ph.D. - Chemical embryology - New York: The Macmillan Company, Cambridge England, at the University Press, 1931) (Diocles of Carystus - 240 - 180 BC)

"let us divide the creation of the foetus overall into four periods of time.
The first is that in which. as is seen both in abortions and in dissection, the form of the semen prevails [Arabic nutfah]. At this time, Hippocrates too, the all-marvelous, does not yet call the conformation of the animal a foetus; as we heard just now in the case of semen voided in the sixth day, he still calls it semen. But when it has been filled with blood [Arabic alaqa], and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size,
this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen. Accordingly you would find that Hippocrates too no longer calls such a form semen but, as was said, foetus.
The third period follows on this, when, as was said, it is possible to see the three ruling parts clearly and a kind of outline, a silhouette, as it were, of all the other parts [Arabic mudghah]. You will see the conformation of the three ruling parts more clearly, that of the parts of the stomach more dimly, and much more still, that of the limbs. Later on they form "twigs", as Hippocrates expressed it, indicating by the term their similarity to branches.
The fourth and final period is at the stage when all the parts in the limbs have been differentiated; and at this part Hippocrates the marvelous no longer calls the foetus an embryo only, but already a child, too when he says that it jerks and moves as an animal now fully formed."[11]
"... The time has come for nature to articulate the organs precisely and to bring all the parts to completion. Thus it caused flesh to grow on and around all the bones, and at the same time ... it made at the ends of the bones ligaments that bind them to each other, and along their entire length it placed around them on all sides thin membranes, called periosteal, on which it caused flesh to grow. (Claudius Galenus - 129-210 AD)

The embryo was called peri habbetten (fruit of the body) and develops as:
1. golem (formless, rolled-up thing);
2. shefir meruqqam (embroidered foetus - shefir means amniotic sac);
3. 'ubbar (something carried); v'alad (child); v'alad shel qayama (noble or viable child) and
4. ben she-kallu chadashav (child whose months have been completed) (Talmud - selepas 200 AD)

Selepas semua development ni barulah Nabi Muhammad dan embriology dalam Quran (yang mana tidak tepat sepenuhnya).

Aku dah kata sejarah human embriology berdasarkan religious scriptures dan saintis.

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 03:38 PM
Pertama sekali, teori bukan fakta. teori adalah pendapat.

Teori yang hang tepek adalah "the  ...

lupa ke kau bapak kau monyet darwin? tak kenang jasa?

by the way aku sebut sebagai air mani, penciptaan air mani? dh tu kenapa kau pusing pergi embrio semua? apa cerita? aku mempersoalkan kebodohan saintis babylon yang tak mampu kaji kejadian manusia. tetiba kau sebut embrio?

lg satu aku nak soalkan, saintis hebat? kenapa tak boleh cipta nyamuk? ALLAH cabar manusia mcm kau cipta nyamuk? cuba lah jawab? mana hebatnye saintis? tak berjaya klon? kau hidup dalam perut mak kau saintis mana tolong? saintis mana tolong cipta air mani pelir bapak kau? tolong telurkan persenyawaan mak kau? sampai lahir kau besar2 bodo bertingkat tingkat?

saintis mana berjaya buat klon tu? berjaya bagi nyawa roh manusia? saintis mana? saintis mana bg nyawa roh pada seketul daging dalam perut mak kau tu? cuba jawab? tentu saintis monyet kan? darwin beruk tu ayah kau kan?


soalan kedua aku, mcm mana kita al quran boleh huraikan kejadian manusia? sedangkan bapak kau monyet darwin masih tak ngaku kejadian manusia daripada keturunan bani adam? sedangkan al quran turun lama masa silam, tp saintis kau tak dapat ilmu kejadian manusia sampai ngaku keturunan monyet cm kau

alasan kau saintis perlu progress? saintis belum ada basic kukuh? jelas sekali saintis kau ni bodo2 belaka. ilmu begitu dh tertulis dalam alquran lama masa silam, tp saintis kau tak dapat rungkaikan..jelas sekali bahawa betapa bodonya saintis2 kebanggaan kau

AdamBillionaire

Lejen posted on 13-8-2013 03:38 PM
Pertama sekali, teori bukan fakta. teori adalah pendapat.

Teori yang hang tepek adalah "the  ...

Allah says regarding the stages the fetus goes through:

((And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge) (and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman). Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators. After that, surely, you will die. Then [again], surely, you will be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection.)) (23:12-14)

The stages a human passes through are:

• Extract of Clay: Adam the father of humankind, was created from clay. This verse does not agree with the theory of evolution which science disproves. This indicates that humans are a distinct creation. Humankind did not evolve from other species.
• Mixed sperm: In this stage male and female discharge mix in the womb, the result of which the egg may become fertilized or die by the will of Allah. If the egg becomes fertilized the first stages of creation would commence.
  

Allah says:

((Indeed, We created man from a sperm-drop mixture that We may try him; and We made him hearing and seeing.)) (76:2)

Diagram illustrating fertilization, the procession of events beginning when the sperm contacts the secondary oocyte’s plasma membrane and ending with the intermingling of maternal and paternal chromosomes at metaphase of the first mitotic division of the zygote. A, secondary oocyte surrounded by several sperms, two of which have penetrated the corona radiate. (Taken from Dr. Keith Moore, The Developing Human, pg. 34 – 7th edition)

If the sperm fails to fertilize the ovum, it would be cast out of the womb along with it, but if it fertilizes the egg and creates a zygote, it would cling to the side of the womb in the form of a blastula. If Allah wills that it clings to the womb, it would move onto the Alaqah stage (i.e. a leech like, suspending thing).

Allah says:

((O people, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection, then [consider that] indeed, We created you from dust, then from a sperm-drop, then from a clinging clot, and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed – that We may show you. And We settle in the wombs whom We will for a specified term, then We bring you out as a child, and then [We develop you] that you may reach your [time of] maturity. And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after [once having] knowledge, nothing. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down upon it rain, it quivers and swells and grows [something] of every beautiful kind.)) (22:5)

• Blood Clot/Clinging Thing: It is described as such, since it clings to the womb; in a manner similar to a leech which feeds off the blood of other creatures.
  
  
  Lateral view of an embryo (24 to 25 days). B. Drawings illustrating the similarities between a leech and a human embryo at the ‘Alaqah’ stage. (Taken from Dr.)Keith Moore, The Developing Human, pg. 71 – 7th edition
  
  Diagram of the primordial cardiovascular system in an embryo of about 21 days, viewed from the left side. Observe the transitory stage of paired symmetrical vessels. (Keith Moore). Each heart tube continues dorsally into a dorsal aorta that passes caudally.
  The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo.
  
  Section of an implanted embryo (about 21 days). In this diagram we can see the suspension of an embryo during the ‘Alaqah’ stage in the womb of the mother.

  • Chewed substance: It is described as such since the embryo is similar in appearance to a chewed substance.Macrophotograph of a stage 13, 4 1/2 week human em-bryo. (Keith Moore) Actual size 4.5 mmThe embryo in this stage is similar in appearance to a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance.
    
    Figure: Look at the similarities between a piece of chewed gum and an actual photo of an embryo. How is it possible that an unlettered man give such explicit details on the embryo? Indeed it is but a revelation from God!
    
    • Formation of bones.
    • Covering of bones with flesh.
    • Development of the embryo into a different form, wherein the proportioning of the body takes place and life is breathed into it.
    The human embryo goes through a number of stages within three darknesses as
    
    Allah says:
    
    ((He created you (all) from a single person (Adam); then made from him his wife [Hawwa' (Eve)]. And He has sent down for you of cattle eight pairs (of the sheep, two, male and female; of the goats, two, male and female; of the oxen, two, male and female; and of the camels, two, male and female). He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness, such is Allah your Lord. His is the kingdom, La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). How then are you turned away?)) (39:6)
    This verse states that the embryo is covered in three coverings, referred to as “darknesses” in this verse. Water, air, light and heat cannot penetrate these coverings,nor can they be seen with the naked eye.
    
    Dr. Maurice Bucaille21 said:
    
    ‘Modern interpreters of the Qur’an see in this verse the three anatomical layers that protect the infant during gestation: the abdominal wall, the uterus itself, and the surroundings of the fetus (placenta, embryonic membranes, amniotic fluid).’22Drawing of a sagittal section of a gravid uterus at 4 weeks showing the relation of the fetal membranes to each other and to the deciduas and embryo.
    The embryo is also placed in a safe place. Allah says:
    
    
    ((Did We not create you from a liquid disdained? And We placed it in a firm lodging [i.e. the womb] for a known extent [determined by gestation]. And We determined [it], and excellent [are We] to determine.)) (77:20-23)
    
    
    Dr. Gary Miller:23 ‘A reporter asked Professor Keith Moore:24 “Don’t you think that maybe the Arabs might have known about these things - the description of the embryo, its appearance and how it changes and grows? Maybe they were not scientists, but maybe they did some crude dissec-tions on their own - carved up people and examined these things.”
    
    
    The professor immediately pointed out to him that he [i.e., the reporter] had missed a very important point. All of the slides of the embryo that had been shown and had been projected in the film had come from pictures taken through a microscope. He said, “It does not matter if someone had tried to discover embryology fourteen centuries ago, they could not have seen it!”
    
    All of the descriptions in the Qur’an of the appearance of the embryo are of the item when it is still too small to see with the eye; therefore, one needs a microscope to see it. Since such a device had only been around for little more than two hundred years, Dr. Moore taunted: “Maybe fourteen centuries ago someone secretly had a microscope and did this research, making no mistakes anywhere. Then he somehow taught Muhammad and convinced him to put this information in his book. Then he destroyed his equipment and kept it a secret forever. Do you believe that? You really should not unless you bring some proof because it is such a ridiculous theory.”
    
    When he was asked: “How do you explain this information in the Qur’an?”
    
    Dr. Moore’s reply was: “It could only have been divinely revealed!”’
    
    Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer25 said: “In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.”