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Post time 16-1-2005 12:29 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Do Christians obligatory to follow everything what has stated in the Bible?
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Post time 16-1-2005 04:56 PM | Show all posts
yes
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Post time 16-1-2005 08:10 PM | Show all posts

soony a Christian

why this kind of questions?

no one is perfect, but Jesus is the PERFECT person to trust
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Post time 16-1-2005 09:33 PM | Show all posts
yes sir, we are to follow the Bible fully, thats means we do not have to circumcise anymore.
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2005 07:54 AM | Show all posts
thanks for the sincere reply.
1. Can you give me the verses show that Christians is now not obliges to be circumsized as Debmey has mentioned.
2. What happened to Christian if he trangress any of the command stated in the Bible?
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Post time 17-1-2005 07:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sakinahmawaddah at 16-1-2005 12:29:
Do Christians obligatory to follow everything what has stated in the Bible?



no!! b'coz Jesus is the saviour.. belief in Jesus and you're SAVED!!
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2005 08:10 AM | Show all posts
i've got contradictory reply here, can anyone can explain.
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Post time 17-1-2005 08:41 AM | Show all posts
Romans 2:25-29
Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

   28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2005 09:45 AM | Show all posts
Thanks Debmey for the valuable info. I've got contradictory reply here (according to the topic), can anyone explain.
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Post time 17-1-2005 10:13 AM | Show all posts
where is the contradiction? please explain.
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Post time 17-1-2005 11:41 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Panglima Hitam at 17-1-2005 07:57 AM:



no!! b'coz Jesus is the saviour.. belief in Jesus and you're SAVED!!



i wonder... if Jesus is a saviour as you believed,
and one is safe, when one has strong believe into Jesus...
why then, he gave you bible to follow, and you are not
obliged to follow the bible.. the preaching of his (jesus).

that is kinda wierd... then christians dont have to read bible,
anymore? you want to express this Panglima Hitam?
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Post time 17-1-2005 11:53 AM | Show all posts
Would God want to give you salvation and then let you go sin?
Aren't you illogical?
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Post time 17-1-2005 12:16 PM | Show all posts
i am probably ilogical...
but that derived from what Panglima Hitam says...

it is poisonous to know, that Jesus leave all his people on earth,
while he alone went to heaven.

it is unredeemable to say, bibles were written for the peope to follow,
why then most people are saying, bibles are only for reading on sunday?

it is very upset though...
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Post time 17-1-2005 01:08 PM | Show all posts
it is poisonous to know, that Jesus leave all his people on earth,
while he alone went to heaven.


isn't it the same thing under islam? why don't yu ask PH then?


it is unredeemable to say, bibles were written for the peope to follow,
why then most people are saying, bibles are only for reading on sunday?

never heard of it.
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Post time 17-1-2005 01:15 PM | Show all posts
hums...
u must an ulama' of you religion...

my christians friends always say that to me, when we discussed about
the truthness of biblical events. (they sometimes raised doubt...
but that none of my concerns..)
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2005 01:19 PM | Show all posts
1.the contradiction here to be highlighted when one say it is not obige to follow words by words in the Bible as it is sufficient to believe in Jesus only and then all the followers who believe will be safe.
Another one say that it is oblige to follow Bible.
Which one is true?
2.And my other question is, if the Christian oblige to follow the Bible, what will happened for those who had trangressed the Bible?
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Post time 17-1-2005 01:19 PM | Show all posts
oh forgot....

yes.. in Islam we do believe Jesus was raised by god to the sky, but im not sure to which part (be it heaven or not).

but christians believing Jesus went directly to heaven after being crucified...

see... spot the differences between our believe on Jesus?

pardon me... but your God has leaves you....
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Post time 17-1-2005 01:41 PM | Show all posts
but christians believing Jesus went directly to heaven after being crucified...


wrong...
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Post time 17-1-2005 01:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sakinahmawaddah at 2005-1-17 01:19 PM:
1.the contradiction here to be highlighted when one say it is not obige to follow words by words in the Bible as it is sufficient to believe in Jesus only and then all the followers who believe wil ...



its a misunderstanding.
to follow the Bible fully means no need to follow the old laws because Jesus has already fulfilled the law while he was on earth.
ie, the meaning of the old laws were fully revealed and understood thru the coming and sacrifice of Jesus.

Have yu ever read the sermon on the mount in Matthew 5?
That is where the full meaning of the laws were explain by Jesus. Do read the entire chapter, take notes and lets discuss it shall we?
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 Author| Post time 17-1-2005 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Ok, I just to make straight so that I understand what you have explain.
It's mean that, the law which stated in the Bible right now, it is not compulsory for any Christian to follow coz Jesus a.s had already fullfil during his existence in the Earth. Am I right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
For the sermon, I'll check my Bible first and then discussed. Is it possible?
So for any Christian trangressed any law in the Bible, they will not be punish in any way at all? Is it true?
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