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Lelaki terbuang hard drive laptop ada bitcoin bernilai $6.5 juta

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Post time 3-12-2013 03:14 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Missing: hard drive containing Bitcoins worth £4m in Newport landfill site
[size=1.333em]A digital 'wallet' containing 7,500 Bitcoins that James Howells generated on his laptop is buried under four feet of rubbish.

The 7,500 Bitcoins on the hard drive were worth around £500,000 when it was thrown in the rubbish. Since then, the value has soared. Photograph: Owen Humphreys/PA

Buried somewhere under four feet of mud and rubbish, in the Docksway landfill site near Newport, Wales, in a space about the size of a football pitch is a computer hard drive worth more than £4m.
It belonged to James Howells, who threw it out when he was clearing up his desk in mid-summer and discovered the part, rescued from a defunct Dell laptop. He found it in a drawer and put it in a bin.
And then last Friday he realised that it held a digital wallet with 7,500 Bitcoins created for almost nothing in 2009 - and then worth about the same.
"You know when you put something in the bin, and in your head, say to yourself 'that's a bad idea'? I really did have that," Howells, who works in IT, told the Guardian. "I don't have an exact date, the only time period I can give – and I've been racking my own brains – is between 20 June and 10 August. Probably mid-July". At the time he obliviously threw them away, the 7,500 Bitcoins on the hard-drive were worth around £500,000. Since then, the cryptocurrency's value has soared, passing $1,000 on Wednesday afternoon.
In 2009, a few months after Bitcoin's launch, it was comparatively easy to 'mine' the digital currency, effectively creating money by computing. Photograph: Rick Bowmer/AP
Although Bitcoins have recently become part of the zeitgeist – with Virgin saying it will accept the currency for its Virgin Galactic flights, and central bankers considering its position in finance seriously – Howells generated his in early 2009, when the currency was only known in tech circles. At that time, a few months after its launch, it was comparatively easy to "mine" the digital currency, effectively creating money by computing: Howells ran a program on his laptop for a week to generate his stash. Nowadays, doing the same would require enormously expensive computing power.
That lost hard drive, though, contains the cryptographic "private key" that is needed to be able to access and spend the Bitcoins; without it, the "money" is lost forever.
And Howells didn't have a backup.
Howells stopped mining after a week because his girlfriend complained that the laptop was getting too noisy and hot while it ran the programs to solve the complex mathematical problems needed to create new Bitcoins.
In 2010, the Dell XPS N1710 broke after he accidentally tipped lemonade on it, so he dismantled it for parts. Most were thrown away or sold, but he kept the hard drive in a desk drawer for the next three years – until that fateful summer day when he had the clearout.
Howells didn't realise his mistake until Friday. Since then, he said, "I've searched high and low. I've tried to retrieve files from all of my USB sticks, from all of my hard drives. I've tried everything just in case I had a backup file, or had copied it by accident. And … nothing."
He even went down to the landfill site itself. "I had a word with one of the guys down there, explained the situation. And he actually took me out in his truck to where the landfill site is, the current ditch they're working on. It's about the size of a football field, and he said something from three or four months ago would be about three or four feet down."
After he stopped mining Bitcoins in 2009, Howells hadn't given the currency much thought. "I hadn't kept up on Bitcoin, I'd been distracted. I'd had a couple of kids since then, I'd been doing the house up, and forgot about it until it was in the news again."
Howells considered retrieving the hard drive himself, but was told that "even for the police to find something, they need a team of 15 guys, two diggers, and all the personal protection equipment. So for me to fund that, it's not possible without the guarantee of money at the end." As such, he's resigned to never getting the virtual money back.
"There's a pot of gold there for someone … I'm even thinking of registering www.returnmybitcoin.com. It's available," he said. He has also set up a Bitcoin wallet for donations aimed at recovering the hard drive.
"If they were to offer me a share, fair enough," he said. "If they were to go out and find it for themselves … it's my mistake throwing the hard drive out, at the end of the day."
A spokeswoman from Newport council emphasised that any treasure hunters turning up to the landfill site wouldn't be allowed in, but "obviously, if it was easily retrieved, we'd return it."
"I'm at the point where it's either laugh about it or cry about it," Howells says. "Why aren't I out there with a shovel now? I think I'm just resigned to never being able to find it."
Nonetheless, he continues to believe, as he did four years ago, that Bitcoin is the future of money. "I still think it's going to go higher. I just think it's the next step of the internet, which is why I mined it in the first place. When I first came across it, I knew straight away. We had everything else at the time; Google, Facebook, they were already the market leaders in their areas. The only thing that was missing was an internet money."



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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:15 PM | Show all posts
aku pon heran apa bitcoin nih??

korang tau x apa tu bitcoin??

aku ada bukak thread sini tapi xde sambutan

http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=771285
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:16 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Too long to read... Who care!
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:17 PM | Show all posts
tekoyong posted on 3-12-2013 03:15 PM
aku pon heran apa bitcoin nih??

korang tau x apa tu bitcoin??

summary boleh x? dlm bahasa yg mudah difahami. aku dh lama nak tau pasal bitcoin ni mcm mana kegunaan. mcm mana nak dapatkan? selamat ke?

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Post time 3-12-2013 03:21 PM | Show all posts
bitcoin ni bukan ke yang guna satu mata wang je tu?
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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:23 PM | Show all posts
NIXAR posted on 3-12-2013 03:17 PM
summary boleh x? dlm bahasa yg mudah difahami. aku dh lama nak tau pasal bitcoin ni mcm mana kegun ...

hehe.. nak buat summary camna..

aku pon malas nak baca.. ingat korang boleh bagi input kat aku jer hehe
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:28 PM | Show all posts
aku pun nak tau jgk! apa kebenda nih
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:29 PM | Show all posts
tekoyong posted on 3-12-2013 03:23 PM
hehe.. nak buat summary camna..

aku pon malas nak baca.. ingat korang boleh bagi input kat aku  ...

pulak dah....musim ujan ni jgn buat lawak. cepat panas wooo ...... mati2 aku ingat dia tau
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:30 PM | Show all posts
yg aku dgr ni currency internet. nilai makin naik skang ni. boleh guna utk transaksi dlm internet. x tau la outlet2 poplar mcm amazon ada guna atau x. jom panggey duta Apple

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Post time 3-12-2013 03:32 PM | Show all posts
pjgnya nk baca...........
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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:34 PM | Show all posts
NIXAR posted on 3-12-2013 03:29 PM
pulak dah....musim ujan ni jgn buat lawak. cepat panas wooo  ...... mati2 aku ingat dia tau : ...

ok, dari pembacaan aku, bitcoin ini adalah online currency yang tidak memerlukan pengendali atau orang tengah.. setiap transaksi dibuat secara "pier to pier" atau dalam bahasa mudahnya dari komputer ke komputer.

so, bila dah x ada orang tengah, maka setiap transaksi yang dibuat tidak akan dikenakan caj seperti yang biasa dicaj oleh kad kredit dan paypal (antara 2-3%).

Bitcoin bermula pada hujung tahun 2009. Pada masa itu, harga 1 BTC bersamaan 1 USD. Sekarang ketika artikel ini ditulis, harga semasa bagi 1 BTC ialah USD1000!!!! bayangkan kenaikan beribu kali ganda dalam masa x sampai 5 tahun!!

http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=771285

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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:36 PM | Show all posts
susah nak percaya.. aku pon baru tahu pasal bitcoin nih semalam.. sape2 yg x percaya tu cer tengok graf kat sini

http://www.bitcoincharts.com/cha ... 0ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

dekat malaysia, aku ada tanya sorang exchanger tadi, dia jual 1 BTC = RM4200.. gilooooo..
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:38 PM | Show all posts
tekoyong posted on 3-12-2013 03:34 PM
ok, dari pembacaan aku, bitcoin ini adalah online currency yang tidak memerlukan pengendali atau o ...

menarik. nampak mcm sistem barter cuma gunakan benda sama bukan bagi kayu nak dptkan garam misalnya. soalnya bitcoin yg terkumpul boleh ditukarkan atau x? ko ade berjuta di alam maya tp kalau x ramai yg guna pun sia2 juga. mcm mana nk dptkan bitcoin ni ade sape2 tau?

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Post time 3-12-2013 03:38 PM | Show all posts
tak payah nak amik tau lah. dah terlambat sangat.
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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:45 PM | Show all posts
NIXAR posted on 3-12-2013 03:38 PM
menarik. nampak mcm sistem barter cuma gunakan benda sama bukan bagi kayu nak dptkan garam misalny ...

bitcoin nih dah disebut sebut sebagai currency online, bro..

ya, bitcoin boleh didagangkan melalui bitcoin wallet.

banyak dah online website yan terima bitcoin. check list dekat sini

http://usebitcoins.info/

china, canada dah mula ambil serius bitcoin nih.. anytime je boleh take over paypal dan online payment gateway lain yang kenakan charge..

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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 03:48 PM | Show all posts
bukan main-main.. keluar dekat laman web news utama dunia nih

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20 ... n-for-currency.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013- ... y-explained/5119034

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25120731

for me, bitcoin is the best thing that happen in internet selepas google, facebook
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:50 PM | Show all posts
aku masih gagal faham.. kalau "online" kenapa mcm gelabah terbuang harddisk?  
duit tu simpan dlm bentuk file ke apa?
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Post time 3-12-2013 03:53 PM | Show all posts
tekoyong posted on 3-12-2013 03:45 PM
bitcoin nih dah disebut sebut sebagai currency online, bro..

ya, bitcoin boleh didagangkan mela ...

Bitcoin price is volatileThe price of a bitcoin can unpredictably increase or decrease over a short period of time due to its young economy, novel nature, and sometimes illiquid markets. Consequently, keeping your savings with Bitcoin is not recommended at this point. Bitcoin should be seen like a high risk asset, and you should never store money that you cannot afford to lose with Bitcoin. If you receive payments with Bitcoin, many service providers can convert them to your local currency.


http://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know

ini yg aku baca. katanya x elok simpan lama2 bitcoin sbb market baru lagi. tp la ni mungkin sbb market berkembang jd kalau nak dagangkan mmg dpt untung gila2 mcm hang ckp td ade org jual 1 bitcoin = rm4200

kena buat investment sikit utk dpt keuntungan. mana2 pun mcm tu kan. manada duit free jatuh dr langit

Don't forget government taxesBitcoin is not an official currency. That said, most jurisdictions still require you to pay income, sales, payroll, and capital gains taxes on anything that has value, including Bitcoin.


opssss....tax tetap kono. cuma x tau gomen kita tax mcm mana. ke depa x aware lg?


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Post time 3-12-2013 04:08 PM | Show all posts
so bitcoin ni boleh ditukar blk ke btk mata wang ke klu kita x jual blk? aku mmg fail bab2 IT ni
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 Author| Post time 3-12-2013 04:14 PM | Show all posts
NIXAR posted on 3-12-2013 03:53 PM
http://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know

ini yg aku baca. katanya x elok simpan lama2 bitcoin ...

ya, memang price dia akan turun naik kaw kaw.. sebab free floating.. aku baca, dulu pernah berlaku harga naik dari USD2 kepada usd32 pastu turun kepada usd2 semula dalam sehari je..

semuanya bergantung pada supply and demand je.. bukan ke itu yang kita nak?? free market tanpa gangguan dari mana2 pihak seperti government, central bank etc??

tax?? aku nak tau gak camna dorang nak tax duit bitcoin nih.. eh, kalo kena tax pon, xde beza pon dengan fiat money sebab fiat money pon kena tax + riba + hidden charge yang lain kalo buat transaction..

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